Oh god I know where this is leading and I ain’t a fan of it
brocanyouchillout on
under 5s get screentime?? what happened to normal telly, with y’know..cartoons and cbeebies and stuff?? why do they need tablets.
edit: sorry i forgot tv was included in screentime ig lol
Pocket_Aces1 on
Waiting for the government to control this by implementing more laws than affect all of us because parents can’t parent
BlackSpinedPlinketto on
Watching Sesame Street, Bluey and cartoons etc is part of life for the under 5s. You can tell parents as much as you want.
Warm_Astronomer_9305 on
As usual it’s punishing the coping mechanism without addressing the core issue. There used to be less need for TV as there were more people available to help keep everything afloat, a village. Now everyone is stuck with their nose to the grindstone trying to stay out of debt and these third places where you can take your children are starting to go extinct or become so expensive, it stops being affordable. It doesn’t feel like society is allowing us to have kids in the first place, let alone be able to spend enough quality time with them that we don’t need a tv to distract them while we try and get everything else done before the day ends. If we neglect those things, life stops working properly and if we neglect the children, we’re failing them. Clearly there needs to be some middle ground where we aren’t constantly having to choose one or the other.
SpikedOnAHook on
Zero hours, provides a book, crayons/colours/pencils
10 and over screens can be introduced. Just my opinion though.
Galimimus79 on
What’s the problem?
Is there any evidence to suggest a physical health issue?
TVs only emit visible light so would be expected to be healthier than viewing something in bright sunlight (with UV etc.)
Focal length is around arms length so no different to drawing a picture and given we have evolved to manipulate things with our hands you’d not expect this to be an issue.
If it’s a concern about behaviour or content then that’s a parenting issue.
Are people generally happy with state intervention in parenting?
anireadscomics on
Well nah then. IMO they shouldn’t even have a device at all
D1789 on
There’s screen time and then there’s screen time.
For kids, cartoons on the TV in the background is significantly different to holding a tablet in the hand and staring at mind-numbing shite on YouTube.
Downtown_Victory2942 on
So we’re not letting them watch a movie in one sitting then? What a load of nonsense
Consistent-Pirate-23 on
One size doesn’t fit all.
I grew up in the 80s and have vague memories of stuff like rainbow, playschool and the like. But being pretty much entirely blind in one eye (astigmatism) the solution is patching the non affected eye. So many activities were out due to the fact I couldn’t see them during that time, whereas I had a vague idea what was going on if the tv was on
HighNimpact on
Yet my child’s school insists on several hours of screen time a day. We complained and were told there’s simply no other options… and, funnily enough, the government won’t do shit all about that.
Funny how a 4yo watching TV at home is awful but watching it at school is just fine. I wonder where the scientific backing for that is.
Silencer-1995 on
I credit Youtube with teaching my ASD/GDD son how to count and talk, as well as understanding other concepts.
Cheap-Rate-8996 on
This is one of the things that bugs me about regulations like the OSA and Australia’s social media ban. They’re primarily focused on tweens and teens, but I would argue we are long past the point where that’s even the issue at hand. A lot of people would be shocked by the amount of actual babies and toddlers who are simply plopped in front of a smartphone or tablet for hours at a time. You can quite literally buy prams that have a mounted holder for a tablet.
What are the long-term developmental consequences of hours of screen time at such a young age? We don’t know, but all the data we have suggests it’s… not great. This could quite literally be a public health crisis on par with toddlers eating lead paint chips that we’re sleepwalking into. [Young people now are the first generation in history to perform cognitively worse than their parents.](https://nypost.com/2026/02/07/us-news/gen-z-the-first-generation-officially-dubbed-dumber-than-the-last/)
The big problem is that society tends to follow a „path of least resistance“. I’m not fully convinced humans in general can be trusted with the technology we’ve invented for ourselves. You give a society anything that can be abused, it will likely be abused as much as possible. Think of how long it took for smoking in pubs and restaurants to be banned. Even aside from the health issues of second-hand smoke, it was obnoxious and inconsiderate for everyone around them. Didn’t matter. They cared more about nicotine than any kind of basic courtesy to others. Cars were invented in the 1890s. Most countries didn’t have drink driving laws until the 1960s, and didn’t start properly enforcing them until the 1990s. A full century where you could have a dram and get behind the wheel of a car and no one would be overly fussed.
This wasn’t so much of an issue 15 years ago not because parents were better back then, but because a desktop PC or a game console naturally ’nudge‘ people towards less screen time and at later ages than a smartphone does. At the very least, a toddler would be too frustrated with learning how to use a keyboard and mouse and navigating a desktop environment to become a screen addict. With a touchscreen, nothing is stopping them. They just have to be able to physically hold the device, the same way they can with wooden play blocks.
Short of somehow uninventing the smartphone and tablet, I do not know how we fix this.
FrustratedPCBuild on
This is pretty pointless. It isn’t based on clear evidence so people will do what they want based on their own beliefs, someone who already believes screens are worse than smoking won’t change their behaviour (although they may use this to feel smug about themselves) those who don’t believe there’s any harm from screens are not going to see this and say ‘Well, that’s that then, time to throw out the TV’.
tintim_mtb on
There is something inherently jarring about seeing a toddler’s focus captured by a backlight when the „real world“ is right there.
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But but then my child throws a tantrum.
-Some concerned parent probably.
Oh god I know where this is leading and I ain’t a fan of it
under 5s get screentime?? what happened to normal telly, with y’know..cartoons and cbeebies and stuff?? why do they need tablets.
edit: sorry i forgot tv was included in screentime ig lol
Waiting for the government to control this by implementing more laws than affect all of us because parents can’t parent
Watching Sesame Street, Bluey and cartoons etc is part of life for the under 5s. You can tell parents as much as you want.
As usual it’s punishing the coping mechanism without addressing the core issue. There used to be less need for TV as there were more people available to help keep everything afloat, a village. Now everyone is stuck with their nose to the grindstone trying to stay out of debt and these third places where you can take your children are starting to go extinct or become so expensive, it stops being affordable. It doesn’t feel like society is allowing us to have kids in the first place, let alone be able to spend enough quality time with them that we don’t need a tv to distract them while we try and get everything else done before the day ends. If we neglect those things, life stops working properly and if we neglect the children, we’re failing them. Clearly there needs to be some middle ground where we aren’t constantly having to choose one or the other.
Zero hours, provides a book, crayons/colours/pencils
10 and over screens can be introduced. Just my opinion though.
What’s the problem?
Is there any evidence to suggest a physical health issue?
TVs only emit visible light so would be expected to be healthier than viewing something in bright sunlight (with UV etc.)
Focal length is around arms length so no different to drawing a picture and given we have evolved to manipulate things with our hands you’d not expect this to be an issue.
If it’s a concern about behaviour or content then that’s a parenting issue.
Are people generally happy with state intervention in parenting?
Well nah then. IMO they shouldn’t even have a device at all
There’s screen time and then there’s screen time.
For kids, cartoons on the TV in the background is significantly different to holding a tablet in the hand and staring at mind-numbing shite on YouTube.
So we’re not letting them watch a movie in one sitting then? What a load of nonsense
One size doesn’t fit all.
I grew up in the 80s and have vague memories of stuff like rainbow, playschool and the like. But being pretty much entirely blind in one eye (astigmatism) the solution is patching the non affected eye. So many activities were out due to the fact I couldn’t see them during that time, whereas I had a vague idea what was going on if the tv was on
Yet my child’s school insists on several hours of screen time a day. We complained and were told there’s simply no other options… and, funnily enough, the government won’t do shit all about that.
Funny how a 4yo watching TV at home is awful but watching it at school is just fine. I wonder where the scientific backing for that is.
I credit Youtube with teaching my ASD/GDD son how to count and talk, as well as understanding other concepts.
This is one of the things that bugs me about regulations like the OSA and Australia’s social media ban. They’re primarily focused on tweens and teens, but I would argue we are long past the point where that’s even the issue at hand. A lot of people would be shocked by the amount of actual babies and toddlers who are simply plopped in front of a smartphone or tablet for hours at a time. You can quite literally buy prams that have a mounted holder for a tablet.
What are the long-term developmental consequences of hours of screen time at such a young age? We don’t know, but all the data we have suggests it’s… not great. This could quite literally be a public health crisis on par with toddlers eating lead paint chips that we’re sleepwalking into. [Young people now are the first generation in history to perform cognitively worse than their parents.](https://nypost.com/2026/02/07/us-news/gen-z-the-first-generation-officially-dubbed-dumber-than-the-last/)
The big problem is that society tends to follow a „path of least resistance“. I’m not fully convinced humans in general can be trusted with the technology we’ve invented for ourselves. You give a society anything that can be abused, it will likely be abused as much as possible. Think of how long it took for smoking in pubs and restaurants to be banned. Even aside from the health issues of second-hand smoke, it was obnoxious and inconsiderate for everyone around them. Didn’t matter. They cared more about nicotine than any kind of basic courtesy to others. Cars were invented in the 1890s. Most countries didn’t have drink driving laws until the 1960s, and didn’t start properly enforcing them until the 1990s. A full century where you could have a dram and get behind the wheel of a car and no one would be overly fussed.
This wasn’t so much of an issue 15 years ago not because parents were better back then, but because a desktop PC or a game console naturally ’nudge‘ people towards less screen time and at later ages than a smartphone does. At the very least, a toddler would be too frustrated with learning how to use a keyboard and mouse and navigating a desktop environment to become a screen addict. With a touchscreen, nothing is stopping them. They just have to be able to physically hold the device, the same way they can with wooden play blocks.
Short of somehow uninventing the smartphone and tablet, I do not know how we fix this.
This is pretty pointless. It isn’t based on clear evidence so people will do what they want based on their own beliefs, someone who already believes screens are worse than smoking won’t change their behaviour (although they may use this to feel smug about themselves) those who don’t believe there’s any harm from screens are not going to see this and say ‘Well, that’s that then, time to throw out the TV’.
There is something inherently jarring about seeing a toddler’s focus captured by a backlight when the „real world“ is right there.