> In a verdict delivered on Wednesday to Judge Carolyn Kuhl, the panel of jurors found Meta and Google intentionally built addictive social media platforms that harmed the mental health of a 20-year old woman, known as Kaley.
An amazing outcome, except for the rest of social media, the gaming industry, and the smartphone app economy that have built around making this a science. 😂
Elliot-S9 on
Yes! A win for humanity here.
gamersecret2 on
That is a huge crack in the armor. If courts start treating addictive design like a real harm, these platforms will have to change the product, not just the PR.
musafir6 on
Slap on the wrist fine of $3M. But hopefully there will be more.
snn1326j on
This is a huge, huge deal. It opens the floodgates to millions of user similar user lawsuits. For everyone saying yesterday that the NM verdict was just pennies for Meta (which I don’t agree with anyway) – this is the opposite because of the sweeping scope.
gnobile on
Is the world cleansing?
Fun-Page-6211 on
As a strong survivor of social media, this verdict encourages me. It shows that I can make my own case in the future.
Spirited-Humor-554 on
Will be overturned on appeal
mobilehavoc on
TikTok next
nokinship on
Addiction isn’t the problem. It’s the fact it’s so cancerous. Anything can be addicting.
FutureSuccess2796 on
This is a huge win! And I can honestly say that they know what they’re doing, because Instagram (which is part of the Meta family) was the only social app I was addicted to scrolling on for a long time. Was becoming super toxic for me, so I gave it up cold turkey a month ago and never looked back. Never checked it since. I don’t miss it one bit, and I ended up limiting all other apps drastically.
btoned on
They’ll pay a fine equivalent to 0.01% of their annual net income and recoup it in about a day.
Until ACTUAL ACTIONS are taken place this shit means nothing. These companies are worth trillions and are allowed to operate with impunity.
boringfantasy on
Jail them all for their crimes against humanity.
eggpoowee on
The moment these massive tech and social media barons are held accountable, the sooner world begins to heal
It’s not the be all and end all, but it’s a head off a snake
MBILC on
And why they are trying to force age verification into the OS, so they can no longer get sued for things like this.
MentalDisintegrat1on on
Finally some good news. Next hold then liable for ads and the damage they cause via fruad
EwokNuggets on
Good. Crack down on it. Social media is a societal cancer
JefeDiez on
Kind of crazy tbh. These Gen Z people are never to blame for anything.
AbyssWankerArtorias on
I think the defining thing here is that the person was a minor at the time of using the services. Would it be the equivalent of a liquor store selling alcohol to a minor? Or would it be the equivalent of a Minor’s parent giving their kid alcohol / not caring that they’re using it? I’m not sure. But this seems like overreaching, honestly. I’d rather parents be encouraged to monitor their child’s online usage. This is just going to lead to online age verification becoming more prevalent which means no anonymity online, which isn’t a world I want to be in.
KidKarez on
I’ll be honest tidk how that even makes sense. Can you sue a coffee shop for giving you caffiene? Or mcdonalds for making addicting food?
LuinAelin on
Good. Should have been more
To be honest reels and shorts need to be easily hidden. It’s so easy to scroll on those and lose time
EARink0 on
~~Between this and environmental stuff, seems like if anyone’s gonna save us from a doomed future, its gonna be the EU. Thank fuck.~~
I’m an idiot who doesn’t read. This was in LA. Really glad either way, even better that it’s in the same state these companies reside in.
Aromatic_Ideal_2770 on
Now pay a couple of millions and keep business as usual
Five-Oh-Vicryl on
Maybe targeting impressionable youth isn’t a good business model
Particular_Ant_8985 on
they shouldnt be selling all our personal information. These algorithms are so hidden and we need transparency of it. I would like to mention the role of big tech in general on this, the phone companies, the app developers who allows this just to make profit. These compnies are the new big tobacco or big oil of our age. It should be regulated same way as those or even more.
kye-qatxd-9156 on
GOOD FUCK BOTH OF EM
I want an option to hide shorts in the app. I demand it, actually.
IamMichaelBoothby on
Good. These companies are exploiting the reward pathway in the brain, which is also what gets hijacked by drug use.
I am an addictions counselor.
Outside_Resource_482 on
I could doom scrolling Reddit and YouTube for England.
Worldly_Expression43 on
Gonna be another slap on the wrist, cost of business
ZanzerFineSuits on
They’ll fish for a “sympathetic” appeals court and the ruling will get thrown out.
Sudden-Excitement330 on
Good! And TikTok?
Yuckpuddle60 on
Terrible precedent.
Training-Republic301 on
Haha, fuck you Zuck
MarlinMaverick on
I’m sure this will be good for privacy, nothing bad will come of this
PrysmX on
It was vomit-inducing listening to how many times the lawyer cited religion in the press conference after the ruling just now. This country is so fucked with being overrun by religious beliefs.
Doom-Sleigher on
Meta is for pedos
viziroth on
let’s see if this leads to a class action
eunicsh on
Stupidest shit I’ve ever seen lol
BuddyMose on
I’ve been sitting in the same irc chat room for 25 years. Let’s bring back the good old days lol. Logging on to some guys FTP server to download Duke Nukem
Kyuubee on
She testified that she became addicted to YouTube when she was 6, Instagram when she was 9, Musical.ly (now TikTok) when she was 10, and Snapchat when she was 11.
The real problem is parents who just hand their kids an iPad and walk away. Then they turn around and blame tech companies for not raising their kids for them.
CantFindtheAnswer on
I want to be optimistic about the potential for this to cause some sort of reevaluation the way social media operates so users can have a more pleasant and overall healthy experience. But alas, I’m far from optimistic these days.
All this does is play into the hands of regulators who have been continuously harping on the need for the internet as a whole needing be more regulated and for our privacy to be continuously assaulted.
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Good! Both companies knew what they are doing.
> In a verdict delivered on Wednesday to Judge Carolyn Kuhl, the panel of jurors found Meta and Google intentionally built addictive social media platforms that harmed the mental health of a 20-year old woman, known as Kaley.
An amazing outcome, except for the rest of social media, the gaming industry, and the smartphone app economy that have built around making this a science. 😂
Yes! A win for humanity here.
That is a huge crack in the armor. If courts start treating addictive design like a real harm, these platforms will have to change the product, not just the PR.
Slap on the wrist fine of $3M. But hopefully there will be more.
This is a huge, huge deal. It opens the floodgates to millions of user similar user lawsuits. For everyone saying yesterday that the NM verdict was just pennies for Meta (which I don’t agree with anyway) – this is the opposite because of the sweeping scope.
Is the world cleansing?
As a strong survivor of social media, this verdict encourages me. It shows that I can make my own case in the future.
Will be overturned on appeal
TikTok next
Addiction isn’t the problem. It’s the fact it’s so cancerous. Anything can be addicting.
This is a huge win! And I can honestly say that they know what they’re doing, because Instagram (which is part of the Meta family) was the only social app I was addicted to scrolling on for a long time. Was becoming super toxic for me, so I gave it up cold turkey a month ago and never looked back. Never checked it since. I don’t miss it one bit, and I ended up limiting all other apps drastically.
They’ll pay a fine equivalent to 0.01% of their annual net income and recoup it in about a day.
Until ACTUAL ACTIONS are taken place this shit means nothing. These companies are worth trillions and are allowed to operate with impunity.
Jail them all for their crimes against humanity.
The moment these massive tech and social media barons are held accountable, the sooner world begins to heal
It’s not the be all and end all, but it’s a head off a snake
And why they are trying to force age verification into the OS, so they can no longer get sued for things like this.
Finally some good news. Next hold then liable for ads and the damage they cause via fruad
Good. Crack down on it. Social media is a societal cancer
Kind of crazy tbh. These Gen Z people are never to blame for anything.
I think the defining thing here is that the person was a minor at the time of using the services. Would it be the equivalent of a liquor store selling alcohol to a minor? Or would it be the equivalent of a Minor’s parent giving their kid alcohol / not caring that they’re using it? I’m not sure. But this seems like overreaching, honestly. I’d rather parents be encouraged to monitor their child’s online usage. This is just going to lead to online age verification becoming more prevalent which means no anonymity online, which isn’t a world I want to be in.
I’ll be honest tidk how that even makes sense. Can you sue a coffee shop for giving you caffiene? Or mcdonalds for making addicting food?
Good. Should have been more
To be honest reels and shorts need to be easily hidden. It’s so easy to scroll on those and lose time
~~Between this and environmental stuff, seems like if anyone’s gonna save us from a doomed future, its gonna be the EU. Thank fuck.~~
I’m an idiot who doesn’t read. This was in LA. Really glad either way, even better that it’s in the same state these companies reside in.
Now pay a couple of millions and keep business as usual
Maybe targeting impressionable youth isn’t a good business model
they shouldnt be selling all our personal information. These algorithms are so hidden and we need transparency of it. I would like to mention the role of big tech in general on this, the phone companies, the app developers who allows this just to make profit. These compnies are the new big tobacco or big oil of our age. It should be regulated same way as those or even more.
GOOD FUCK BOTH OF EM
I want an option to hide shorts in the app. I demand it, actually.
Good. These companies are exploiting the reward pathway in the brain, which is also what gets hijacked by drug use.
I am an addictions counselor.
I could doom scrolling Reddit and YouTube for England.
Gonna be another slap on the wrist, cost of business
They’ll fish for a “sympathetic” appeals court and the ruling will get thrown out.
Good! And TikTok?
Terrible precedent.
Haha, fuck you Zuck
I’m sure this will be good for privacy, nothing bad will come of this
It was vomit-inducing listening to how many times the lawyer cited religion in the press conference after the ruling just now. This country is so fucked with being overrun by religious beliefs.
Meta is for pedos
let’s see if this leads to a class action
Stupidest shit I’ve ever seen lol
I’ve been sitting in the same irc chat room for 25 years. Let’s bring back the good old days lol. Logging on to some guys FTP server to download Duke Nukem
She testified that she became addicted to YouTube when she was 6, Instagram when she was 9, Musical.ly (now TikTok) when she was 10, and Snapchat when she was 11.
The real problem is parents who just hand their kids an iPad and walk away. Then they turn around and blame tech companies for not raising their kids for them.
I want to be optimistic about the potential for this to cause some sort of reevaluation the way social media operates so users can have a more pleasant and overall healthy experience. But alas, I’m far from optimistic these days.
All this does is play into the hands of regulators who have been continuously harping on the need for the internet as a whole needing be more regulated and for our privacy to be continuously assaulted.