Im gonna guess the other for the netherlands are boats right?
vanKlompf on
I see a pattern here… Some kind of correlation with housing crisis maybe?
RickV6 on
Ireland hardly has anything but houses anyway 🤣🤣🤣
Did you ever see a building anywhere in Ireland that has 100+ flats. No you probably did not.
And that right there is why Ireland has housing problem. Cuz you can fit whole estate of detached, semi-detached resident in one big apartment building.
Same building that literally every single other country has except Ireland.
Like you have literally apartment buildings in China, like literally only 1 building that has more people living in it then towns in Ireland 🤣🤣🤣
MrBulwark on
Well yeah, we refuse to build up which is one of the big contributions to the housing crisis. If we don’t build up we’re going to have a much higher % of house s.
Craicriture on
It’s changing somewhat with more apartment buildings but Ireland is historically very, very house focused and extremely low rise.
Baggersaga23 on
Need way more apartments here. Great to see the funds starting to invest again to deliver them
Mini_gunslinger on
A lot of 1 or 2 bed terraces in Irish cities with little garden/courtyard.
MrTuxedo1 on
Loads of apartments going up in my local area, it’s great to see.
Personally, I’d take an apartment, with good public transport links, over a house any day
lucslav on
Avoiding apartments will only worsen the housing crisis and commuting problems, making people more and more car dependent. No bright future
Accomplished-Low2131 on
Apartments have a poor reputation, with a lot out there being Celtic tiger jobs that are thrown together, that combined with a lot of pretty poor management companies it’s a hard sell. Changing slowly only because people can’t afford an alternative
eo37 on
Then allow the building of high rise apartment buildings.
Global_Handle_3615 on
Let’s look at the unfortunates who bought in likes of priory hall etc and wonder why people run a mile from an Irish built flat.
Edit i see the cowboy builders who sailed off without nary a conviction are out downvoting anyone who mentions their criminal building skills.
sureyouknowurself on
Remove the height limits in city centres.
Recent-Link9409 on
not surprised ireland is so high the housing stock is basically low rise sprawl and a lot of people grow up with the idea that a house is the default
the irony is even with 90 percent in houses it still feels impossible to get one now
also curious how they count apartments vs duplexes and terraced houses because ireland has loads of semis and terraces which still show as houses but density wise its a different story
albert_pacino on
So far behind in thinking and execution
Valkyrie1-618 on
The seeds of this are our history of land ownership and apartments not being stable/secure in their ownership.
Hipster_doofus11 on
9.7% living in apartments. The lowest in the EU. Less than half the percentage of the second lowest. That is fairly damning.
rockafellerskank95 on
Obviously as a society we do prefer living in houses but 90% seems insane to me
Hour_Mastodon_9404 on
We need more of every type of housing – standalone, apartments, duplexes, etc etc.
Overall though, I don’t think the Irish preference for ultimately *settling* in a house rather than apartments is incorrect or should be derided – having lived in both, I can testify that every facet of life is just more difficult and stress inducing in apartment blocks (yes, even modern ones that are well soundproofed) than in a house. It’s manageable when you’re younger and living with friends/partner, but the thought of raising a family in one is genuinely nightmarish. Your whole life becomes contingent on all of your neighbours in your building (and adjoining ones) being decent, well behaved people, and having lived a bit that unfortunately just is not a realistic expectation.
Guilty_Doughnut1557 on
Stop living in houses folks, if you want to count the ones with no garden, no backyard and a shared car park space, if your lucky! The soviet union era type flats lifestyle needs to return?! Pascal will make sure of that now he runs the finances of the world. Irish folks have notions.
This survey can easily be seen in a different light. Lets turn it around and do a New survey.
Question:
Who doesn’t want to live in an apartment with 3 kids, the dog, the cat and 2 cars for work out somewhere in a paid car park?
Answer: Ireland Highest 90%
EGriff1981 on
There are many factors why Ireland has a housing crisis. Building stopped in 2008 at the start of the recession despite the IMF urging the government of the day to keep building. Construction workers then left to go abroad where there was work. So when we did get in a postion to build we hadnt the workers to do so. Also factor in that the population jumped from 3 3million in 1995 to 5.4 million today. That is a significant increase, and one the country was not ready for. Also take into consideration that we took in far more refugees than we could afford to do so. An example being the 120k Ukranians, For refence, France took in less than 80k. There are also serious shortcomings in our planning infrastructure too. Theses are some but not all of the issues.
flemishbiker88 on
I was walking the other day, and came across some new builds, big 4/5 bed detached houses, the footprint of these places was ridiculous, also the took down a lot for trees for the back gardens…the amount of well designed terraced houses you could fit there would be amazing for the housing situation we have.
I really wish we could design proper apartments in this country, I my ever been in one that wasn’t damp, cold, poorly laid out…the one that was very comfortable and well layout, was actually a death trap in case of fire, only one staircase and no escape otherwise
ThisRegion1857 on
Anybody know the stats for the UK?
PeteIRL on
It doesn’t help that the size of apartment being built has gotten smaller and smaller. We had a two bed apartment when we had our first child. It was, even with a small child, too small of a space for a growing family. If you want families to live in apartments, you need to build apartments suitable for a family.
Pure-Ice5527 on
We’re nailing urban sprawl and long commutes.. it’s a dirty job but someone needs to do it
Dull_Brain2688 on
We have a dispersed population due to the fact that the Industrial Revolution basically skipped Ireland. Other countries saw their country folk swept into towns to work in mills and factories. And when we did build high tide, we shanked the ball into the bushes. Turned them into slums that have made people extremely wary of any development which could be seen as a “block of flats”. Also, we have lots of land. We could build lots more houses. It’s a combination of bad strategy, contrarian planners and developers ending zoned land into the housing market.
karolaug on
This is not like there is some magical force that makes builders only develop houses. Most of Ireland is rural and apartments are objectively much worse to live in. They are necessary compromise in big cities and Ireland has only one big city.
So yes, in Dublin there sould be more apartments in the city center, but everywhere else it is not necessary and it is objectively nicer to live in the house.
In US 80% of population lives in houses, and apartments are only in cities. It is similar in Ireland.
What would be the point of building those miserable shoebox apartments in small towns and villages across the country? It is enough that we stopped building proper houses and mostly focus on housing estates with 0.5 parking space per house and the back garden too small to put a shed in.
another-dave on
You could solve a load of interconnected problems at once, too – there’s loads of places in Dublin (like O’Connell Street) that feel rundown but should be major parts of the city.
Build more apartments in the city centre means that people can walk to work & go out in the evening without worrying about getting home. Less money spent commuting and taxi back after the pub is more money that can go to cafés, pubs,restaurants and less congestion on the roads.
More people in their 20s in apartments right in town also frees up houses in commuter towns for people who specifically want the trade-off in lifestyle of the suburbs (bigger house with a garden, even if longer commute).
TaperingRook688 on
Well maybe 51 percent of the population lives in houses but remember that our population is tiny
Small_Sundae_4245 on
We don’t build apartments for people to live in.
We built apartments for landlords to rent out.
Sporshie on
Things would be so much better for all the single people in box rooms if they could have a private 1 bed or studio apartment instead. No point in having big houses in the name of high standards if they’re just going to end up stuffed with people in ultimately far inferior living conditions
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Im gonna guess the other for the netherlands are boats right?
I see a pattern here… Some kind of correlation with housing crisis maybe?
Ireland hardly has anything but houses anyway 🤣🤣🤣
Did you ever see a building anywhere in Ireland that has 100+ flats. No you probably did not.
And that right there is why Ireland has housing problem. Cuz you can fit whole estate of detached, semi-detached resident in one big apartment building.
Same building that literally every single other country has except Ireland.
Like you have literally apartment buildings in China, like literally only 1 building that has more people living in it then towns in Ireland 🤣🤣🤣
Well yeah, we refuse to build up which is one of the big contributions to the housing crisis. If we don’t build up we’re going to have a much higher % of house s.
It’s changing somewhat with more apartment buildings but Ireland is historically very, very house focused and extremely low rise.
Need way more apartments here. Great to see the funds starting to invest again to deliver them
A lot of 1 or 2 bed terraces in Irish cities with little garden/courtyard.
Loads of apartments going up in my local area, it’s great to see.
Personally, I’d take an apartment, with good public transport links, over a house any day
Avoiding apartments will only worsen the housing crisis and commuting problems, making people more and more car dependent. No bright future
Apartments have a poor reputation, with a lot out there being Celtic tiger jobs that are thrown together, that combined with a lot of pretty poor management companies it’s a hard sell. Changing slowly only because people can’t afford an alternative
Then allow the building of high rise apartment buildings.
Let’s look at the unfortunates who bought in likes of priory hall etc and wonder why people run a mile from an Irish built flat.
Edit i see the cowboy builders who sailed off without nary a conviction are out downvoting anyone who mentions their criminal building skills.
Remove the height limits in city centres.
not surprised ireland is so high the housing stock is basically low rise sprawl and a lot of people grow up with the idea that a house is the default
the irony is even with 90 percent in houses it still feels impossible to get one now
also curious how they count apartments vs duplexes and terraced houses because ireland has loads of semis and terraces which still show as houses but density wise its a different story
So far behind in thinking and execution
The seeds of this are our history of land ownership and apartments not being stable/secure in their ownership.
9.7% living in apartments. The lowest in the EU. Less than half the percentage of the second lowest. That is fairly damning.
Obviously as a society we do prefer living in houses but 90% seems insane to me
We need more of every type of housing – standalone, apartments, duplexes, etc etc.
Overall though, I don’t think the Irish preference for ultimately *settling* in a house rather than apartments is incorrect or should be derided – having lived in both, I can testify that every facet of life is just more difficult and stress inducing in apartment blocks (yes, even modern ones that are well soundproofed) than in a house. It’s manageable when you’re younger and living with friends/partner, but the thought of raising a family in one is genuinely nightmarish. Your whole life becomes contingent on all of your neighbours in your building (and adjoining ones) being decent, well behaved people, and having lived a bit that unfortunately just is not a realistic expectation.
Stop living in houses folks, if you want to count the ones with no garden, no backyard and a shared car park space, if your lucky! The soviet union era type flats lifestyle needs to return?! Pascal will make sure of that now he runs the finances of the world. Irish folks have notions.
This survey can easily be seen in a different light. Lets turn it around and do a New survey.
Question:
Who doesn’t want to live in an apartment with 3 kids, the dog, the cat and 2 cars for work out somewhere in a paid car park?
Answer: Ireland Highest 90%
There are many factors why Ireland has a housing crisis. Building stopped in 2008 at the start of the recession despite the IMF urging the government of the day to keep building. Construction workers then left to go abroad where there was work. So when we did get in a postion to build we hadnt the workers to do so. Also factor in that the population jumped from 3 3million in 1995 to 5.4 million today. That is a significant increase, and one the country was not ready for. Also take into consideration that we took in far more refugees than we could afford to do so. An example being the 120k Ukranians, For refence, France took in less than 80k. There are also serious shortcomings in our planning infrastructure too. Theses are some but not all of the issues.
I was walking the other day, and came across some new builds, big 4/5 bed detached houses, the footprint of these places was ridiculous, also the took down a lot for trees for the back gardens…the amount of well designed terraced houses you could fit there would be amazing for the housing situation we have.
I really wish we could design proper apartments in this country, I my ever been in one that wasn’t damp, cold, poorly laid out…the one that was very comfortable and well layout, was actually a death trap in case of fire, only one staircase and no escape otherwise
Anybody know the stats for the UK?
It doesn’t help that the size of apartment being built has gotten smaller and smaller. We had a two bed apartment when we had our first child. It was, even with a small child, too small of a space for a growing family. If you want families to live in apartments, you need to build apartments suitable for a family.
We’re nailing urban sprawl and long commutes.. it’s a dirty job but someone needs to do it
We have a dispersed population due to the fact that the Industrial Revolution basically skipped Ireland. Other countries saw their country folk swept into towns to work in mills and factories. And when we did build high tide, we shanked the ball into the bushes. Turned them into slums that have made people extremely wary of any development which could be seen as a “block of flats”. Also, we have lots of land. We could build lots more houses. It’s a combination of bad strategy, contrarian planners and developers ending zoned land into the housing market.
This is not like there is some magical force that makes builders only develop houses. Most of Ireland is rural and apartments are objectively much worse to live in. They are necessary compromise in big cities and Ireland has only one big city.
So yes, in Dublin there sould be more apartments in the city center, but everywhere else it is not necessary and it is objectively nicer to live in the house.
In US 80% of population lives in houses, and apartments are only in cities. It is similar in Ireland.
What would be the point of building those miserable shoebox apartments in small towns and villages across the country? It is enough that we stopped building proper houses and mostly focus on housing estates with 0.5 parking space per house and the back garden too small to put a shed in.
You could solve a load of interconnected problems at once, too – there’s loads of places in Dublin (like O’Connell Street) that feel rundown but should be major parts of the city.
Build more apartments in the city centre means that people can walk to work & go out in the evening without worrying about getting home. Less money spent commuting and taxi back after the pub is more money that can go to cafés, pubs,restaurants and less congestion on the roads.
More people in their 20s in apartments right in town also frees up houses in commuter towns for people who specifically want the trade-off in lifestyle of the suburbs (bigger house with a garden, even if longer commute).
Well maybe 51 percent of the population lives in houses but remember that our population is tiny
We don’t build apartments for people to live in.
We built apartments for landlords to rent out.
Things would be so much better for all the single people in box rooms if they could have a private 1 bed or studio apartment instead. No point in having big houses in the name of high standards if they’re just going to end up stuffed with people in ultimately far inferior living conditions