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    Die NASA wird 20 Milliarden Dollar für die Mondbasis ausgeben und die umlaufende Mondstation absagen

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    2. BaronGreywatch on

      12 billion on two weeks of fairly half hearted war and only 20 billion on a moon base, that I assume is supposed to last for a while. Seems crazy.

    3. Floppychicken45 on

      Honestly, I feel at this point it doesn’t matter what they pick to spend their money on. Just pick something and stick with it for more than 4 years and we might actually see some progress.

    4. fabulousmarco on

      Classic US, pulling out of an international partnership when the other side has already built the modules that were requested.

      I really hope ESA was smart enough to negotiate penalties for a breach like this and we can get at least some of our money back

    5. Aldren on

      So we can build 10 moon bases for what the US is looking to spend on the Iran war?

    6. anon90119 on

      As much as I dislike Gateway, this seems to me like they are trying to divert funding from Gateway so they can land humans on the moon before the next general elections.

      If you look at the full plan they have in their presentation, they have 50ish launches for phase 1 and 2, but only 20 billions in investments. This is not a serious plan, it’s wishful thinking and diverting money for short term gains.

      The budgets don’t make sense to me.

    7. DaySecure7642 on

      A good call if really short of cash. The orbiting lunar station does not claim territory but the moon base does.

    9. Fancy_Exchange_9821 on

      Based based based based

      Idc who does it, I want the for all mankind timeline even if it’s fucked up

    10. Bdr1983 on

      While gateway wasn’t a great idea, it’s not a great move to cancel it. Modules have already been built, a lot of money has been spent. Great way to throw that all away.

    11. JustUrAvg-Depresso on

      Please do spend the money on the frontier of space instead of the frontier of each other, hubris, ego, hate and racism. The ocean and space are the forever frontiers of humanity. Trump already funneled 20 billion of tax payers into his own Pocket

    12. Dramatic_Mastodon_93 on

      ok NASA is done for, let me know when they can stick to a plan for more than 30 minutes

    15. nucrash on

      $20 billion for a base on the Moon? What is he smoking? The ISS cost upwards of $150 billion to build in 2010 dollars. That’s just low Earth orbit. We aren’t talking about getting the mass of a station to the Moon.

    16. Srdthrowawayshite on

      What will happen with the Gateway parts that were already built and/or contracted to be launched?

    17. howescj82 on

      Ultimately, this has a vibe like it has to be about claiming lunar territory in advance of multiple countries having a presence on the moon.

    18. Brilliant_Koala4955 on

      The China will land there one day and build peramanent habitat and they will be still making awesome plans without execution. It will be a random day without prior notice.

    19. Ccbm2208 on

      20 billion for the next 10 years in today’s money sounds like such chump change though.

      How much was already covered in Artemis’s develpment cost so far that this type of proposal is even serious?

    20. Eymrich on

      I bet they are going to pay 10 billions to musk to the lander, and in a couple of year he is going to…
      Do what he did last time, exploding rockets that fail to maintain orbit.

    21. sanic55 on

      Well fuck all the billions in ESA hardware that was already in development I guess. Hopefully they’ll at least get extra seats or some form of compensation out of this.

    22. boyfrndDick on

      Omg would they just stick to one plan and actually follow through. Such a waste of time & money changing plans every few years. I swear it’s just for the headlines.

    24. Device420 on

      When people ask a question like „Why would NASA fake the space program?“ Right here is 20 billion reasons why. How many more billions have went to NASA since it’s inception? They literally don’t have to prove anything. They don’t have to go anywhere. They have life time jobs and life time of tax payer money funding them. They don’t have to go to space. Why put the effort in when you can just CGI everything and still keep it going? Perfect setup.

    25. DevoidHT on

      That money is never going to be invested in space. It will be gifted to a sycophant billionaire with big promises and then quietly funneled away until the program gets cancelled.

    26. OneTwoFar_ on

      I will volunteer to be the first Overlord of our moon base. When will the giant death beam be installed?

    27. CurtisLeow on

      Canceling the Gateway completely is a mistake. The hardware needed for a space station has very little
      In common with a lunar base. It really isn’t going to save a significant amount of money anyway, since much of the hardware was already built.

      Instead NASA would be better off launching those modules into low Earth orbit. That could be done for very little money. The launch cost to LEO is much lower. It also doesn’t need to be radiation-hardened, just radiation tolerant. Dock the modules with one of the planned commercial space stations.

    28. itsyagirlJULIE on

      Space just wasn’t built for this government ping pong with term limits and constant undermining of previous progress. It’s horrible and exhausting enough on earth but you just can’t get a single thing moving in time with space. In terms of a ’space race‘ this has to be the US’s biggest disadvantage. Even with democracy in the EU there’s a ton of different countries contributing to ESA with their own political spheres so one election going to shit can only do so much damage. This administration is really doing its best to tear up the enthusiasm for NASA that I’ve had since I was a kid. If the moon base actually happens, cool, but this really doesn’t sound stable with how often things are changing

    32. Dirty-Electro on

      I’m not a full-on astrophysicist yet or anything like that, just an amateur astrophotographer and huge space nerd with a lot of time playing space games and learning about space — but wouldn’t it be easier to have an orbital station rather than a large-scale lunar base?

      I can’t help but think that forgoing an orbital station will have long-term consequences for the longevity of lunar missions. At the very least having a dedicated lunar station allows you to have a rendezvous prior to landing on the Moon.

    33. Meritania on

      $20 billion seems like a low ball effort, bearing in mind the cost of space infrastructure.

      I suspect this ‘moon base’ is a temporary effort or a 2-3 man affair. Mir on the Moon.

    34. imaguitarhero24 on

      From a pure vibes standpoint a lunar base is way cooler, but I can see how gateway with periodic excursions to the surface could be more efficient. But establishing a permanent presence on the moon like ISS would be awesome. It’s making me excited because it’s doable and we could see it in our lifetime.

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    36. Fritzo2162 on

      We’ve seen this game before. Then they’ll scale the base down, then they’ll cancel it all together.

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