I am more concerned about Trump and Elon Musk invading our privacy than China.
Low_Discussion_9459 on
One step closer for allowing the USA to cut off the Internet from the rest of the world like Russia is currently doing since it also labels an informed populace potentially sparking a revolution a National Security threat that it must maintain power the same reason it’s also going to rig and cancel elections as well because it’s Revolution And Rebellion prevention if not the very existence of the Constitution itself already does that by putting out a Civic Mythology that we’re „already free“.
NeutralBias on
This is trade policy masquerading as security policy and is overall a bad thing for the US market. Like Chinese EVs, the US market is simply going to be shut out of options available in the rest of the world if this has its intended effect.
RoosterMedical on
The cost of a domestically manufactured router is likely to be astounding.
PapaGilbatron on
What better way to embed more technology to spy on its own population.
ToadP on
Ah, the Majority of Routers used by I.S.P. companies like Xfinity and Verizon are made outside of the U.S.A. Does that mean that future new installs won’t be happening? Or are they excluded because of Donations?
LockNo2943 on
>While [the FCC’s Covered List](https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist) makes it sound like the US is banning *all* “routers produced in a foreign country,” it’s defined a bit more narrowly than that. It’s specifically banning “consumer-grade routers” as defined in [NIST Internal Report 8425A](https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/ir/2024/NIST.IR.8425A.pdf), which refers to ones “intended for residential use and can be installed by the customer.”
So it’s not even about protecting business or security since it only affects personal use by consumers.
hutthuttindabutt on
Release the Epstein files.
bugsyramone on
Y’all remember when the GoPs main talking point was ’smaller government?‘
Pepperidge Farms remembers…
modelthree on
Great. Router shortage coming in 2026.
Punning_Man on
Since this strategy worked so well for drones.
Cultbird on
Age verifications, router bans, IDs required for everything, we all see where this is going.
A surveillance state powered by government-controlled AI.
bigly911 on
The only approved routers, are Trump routers. Definitely not compromised routers, believe me.
jarchack on
Enshitiffication is getting out of hand
Ornery-Childhood1782 on
There are routers created in the US? That’s surprising to me
rhb4n8 on
Isn’t this all of them?
GestureArtist on
Well that’s fucking dumb. America is just fucking dumb.
benchcoat on
it’s a blackmail grift—non-US manufacturers keep selling in the US with a kickback to the Trump Crime Syndicate
from the article:
“Now, router makers need to A) secure a “conditional approval” that lets them keep getting new products cleared for US entry”
so, another Trump tax passed on to you in order to line his pockets
stickerhighway on
Hmmm 🤔 can’t put my finger on why they would want to control the literal source of information for everyone.
Pressure on ISPs won’t be too far behind.
Asymmetrical_Square on
Fun fact. You can make your own router with things like pfSense/OPNsense and an old unused PC.
liftbikerun on
The irony of banning consumer routers made outside the US in the name of security while concurrently selling our state secrets to the highest bidder and installing Russian operatives in and around the White House is wild.
remote_001 on
“It is not clear how simply moving production of routers domestically would make them safer. In the Volt Typhoon hack, Chinese state-sponsored hackers primarily targeted Cisco and Netgear routers, routers designed by US companies, according to the Department of Justice. Those US companies had stopped providing security updates to the specific targeted routers, because they had discontinued those products.”
So fucking stupid. 🤦
Nearbyatom on
Isn’t that all routers then. What consumer level routers are made in the US? HECK, What consumer level electronics is produced in the US? we have American brands making them overseas now.
FizzyBeverage on
*Fucker acts like he’s gonna be in power for decades and live to see 130.* 🙄
Dude has 2 years left, being generous. All of 2028 is a campaign for the next a-hole.
IrrelevantLeprechaun on
More shit we didn’t ask for, didn’t want, and have exactly zero power to prevent or do anything about. I hate it here.
freexanarchy on
Oh I forgot about the bribes. Whoever pays the bribe still can sell in the US
zmunky on
That’s like all of them…… Dudes trying to ske us back to the dark ages
Memory_Less on
More state control is highly worrying. This is in line with some of the ways China uses their consumer routers for monitoring its citizens. This is incredibly worrisome. The noose is getting tighter.
slingshot91 on
Palantir-approved routers only.
egoVirus on
Boot lickers sure do love big government…
PeterDTown on
> companies that have already gotten FCC radio authorization for a specific foreign-made product can continue to import that product.
So, basically the U.S. will just be stuck with the present day router offering while the rest of the world moves forward with new technologies? I guess that’s certainly a strategy.
livinginfutureworld on
They want to strong arm domestic router manufacturers and require government spying in domestic routers?
HurtFeeFeez on
Small government, freedom of choice and a free market economy you say?
TrailerTrashQueen on
so when we go to Tijuana for medication, we’re also picking up a couple routers?
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I am more concerned about Trump and Elon Musk invading our privacy than China.
One step closer for allowing the USA to cut off the Internet from the rest of the world like Russia is currently doing since it also labels an informed populace potentially sparking a revolution a National Security threat that it must maintain power the same reason it’s also going to rig and cancel elections as well because it’s Revolution And Rebellion prevention if not the very existence of the Constitution itself already does that by putting out a Civic Mythology that we’re „already free“.
This is trade policy masquerading as security policy and is overall a bad thing for the US market. Like Chinese EVs, the US market is simply going to be shut out of options available in the rest of the world if this has its intended effect.
The cost of a domestically manufactured router is likely to be astounding.
What better way to embed more technology to spy on its own population.
Ah, the Majority of Routers used by I.S.P. companies like Xfinity and Verizon are made outside of the U.S.A. Does that mean that future new installs won’t be happening? Or are they excluded because of Donations?
>While [the FCC’s Covered List](https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist) makes it sound like the US is banning *all* “routers produced in a foreign country,” it’s defined a bit more narrowly than that. It’s specifically banning “consumer-grade routers” as defined in [NIST Internal Report 8425A](https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/ir/2024/NIST.IR.8425A.pdf), which refers to ones “intended for residential use and can be installed by the customer.”
So it’s not even about protecting business or security since it only affects personal use by consumers.
Release the Epstein files.
Y’all remember when the GoPs main talking point was ’smaller government?‘
Pepperidge Farms remembers…
Great. Router shortage coming in 2026.
Since this strategy worked so well for drones.
Age verifications, router bans, IDs required for everything, we all see where this is going.
A surveillance state powered by government-controlled AI.
The only approved routers, are Trump routers. Definitely not compromised routers, believe me.
Enshitiffication is getting out of hand
There are routers created in the US? That’s surprising to me
Isn’t this all of them?
Well that’s fucking dumb. America is just fucking dumb.
it’s a blackmail grift—non-US manufacturers keep selling in the US with a kickback to the Trump Crime Syndicate
from the article:
“Now, router makers need to A) secure a “conditional approval” that lets them keep getting new products cleared for US entry”
so, another Trump tax passed on to you in order to line his pockets
Hmmm 🤔 can’t put my finger on why they would want to control the literal source of information for everyone.
Pressure on ISPs won’t be too far behind.
Fun fact. You can make your own router with things like pfSense/OPNsense and an old unused PC.
The irony of banning consumer routers made outside the US in the name of security while concurrently selling our state secrets to the highest bidder and installing Russian operatives in and around the White House is wild.
“It is not clear how simply moving production of routers domestically would make them safer. In the Volt Typhoon hack, Chinese state-sponsored hackers primarily targeted Cisco and Netgear routers, routers designed by US companies, according to the Department of Justice. Those US companies had stopped providing security updates to the specific targeted routers, because they had discontinued those products.”
So fucking stupid. 🤦
Isn’t that all routers then. What consumer level routers are made in the US? HECK, What consumer level electronics is produced in the US? we have American brands making them overseas now.
*Fucker acts like he’s gonna be in power for decades and live to see 130.* 🙄
Dude has 2 years left, being generous. All of 2028 is a campaign for the next a-hole.
More shit we didn’t ask for, didn’t want, and have exactly zero power to prevent or do anything about. I hate it here.
Oh I forgot about the bribes. Whoever pays the bribe still can sell in the US
That’s like all of them…… Dudes trying to ske us back to the dark ages
More state control is highly worrying. This is in line with some of the ways China uses their consumer routers for monitoring its citizens. This is incredibly worrisome. The noose is getting tighter.
Palantir-approved routers only.
Boot lickers sure do love big government…
> companies that have already gotten FCC radio authorization for a specific foreign-made product can continue to import that product.
So, basically the U.S. will just be stuck with the present day router offering while the rest of the world moves forward with new technologies? I guess that’s certainly a strategy.
They want to strong arm domestic router manufacturers and require government spying in domestic routers?
Small government, freedom of choice and a free market economy you say?
so when we go to Tijuana for medication, we’re also picking up a couple routers?