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    1. OilInternational2566 on

      There are no official numbers, because Reddit won’t release them, but it has been looked into…. and between 15-20% of everything you see, and read, on Reddit is bots.

      YouTube Spotify, Instagram, Facebook TikTok all of them are the same. Infested with bots.

      I just spent a couple minutes digging – re: bots on Reddit:

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      https://www.reddit.com/r/self/s/dtMevOCqAm

      https://www.piratewires.com/p/the-terrorist-propaganda-to-reddit-pipeline

      https://www.reddit.com/r/SeriousConversation/s/WQZIvPWIAO

      https://www.reddit.com/r/GreatBritishMemes/s/Id9MCPMYsc

    2. And people were wondering why AI songs on Spotify kept getting plays and rising in popularity. I’ll bet this kind of fraud is all over the place.

    3. redpandafire on

      now expand that. Websites with ads getting insane traffic despite nonsensical ai generated articles.
      Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    4. The irony here is that what Michael Smith was doing with AI isn’t far off what the corporate music business has been doing for decades. ie pumping unfair resources into flooding the content market with slop and reaping the rewards. But of course, Michael Smith stealing their piece of pie upsets the status quo. This whole case outlines that the music business is fundamentally flawed. We shouldn’t reward streams. The only reason this got called out is because the advertisers that side with the corporate music business are pulling their hair out to think that their adverts are being watched by bots who will not buy their clothes, perfumes, jewellery or weight loss drugs.

    5. DueDisplay2185 on

      When wealth inequality increases then so does crime so this shouldn’t be shocking but like, we live in an age of chatgpt and Lie2Me services, should the perpetrator have used an anime big tittied mascot to con people out of money or should they have had a decade of „don’t be evil“ slogan to balance that whole arc out?? Rules for thee looks like

    6. Estimated 1.2m/year, made $8m, they want all of it forfeited and 5 years in prison. Hmmmm. If they’re mad at viewbotting and brigading then they would push literally every single artist lol.

    7. Possible-Put8922 on

      Some streaming company is going to use this and people will call it innovative.

    8. Due_Butterscotch4930 on

      He basically turned streaming into a money printer until reality hit.

    9. CreativeFraud on

      Anyone wanna launch a new publicly owned social media? I’ve got about $3.50 to put into it.

    10. bro teaches us how to built a startup, a scam and a case study all at once lol

    11. So I feel like Spotify tacitly embraces it to encourage bots and boost listener counts.

      Spotify pays out per stream, which makes bot vectors like this possible.

      What they should actually do is pay out per % of a premium users streams.

      So person A listens to 10,000 songs a month. Split person A’s revenue (minus spotify’s cut) among those 10,000 songs.

      Person B only listens to 5 songs a month? Split Person B’s revenue among those 5 songs.

      With the way they do it currently, what person B listens to basically doesn’t matter, the revenue is dominated by person A’s listens, even those both A and B pay the same amount per month.

    12. srirachaninja on

      That whole streaming system is faulty. How can you generate more revenue with 1000 Spotify accounts than you pay for them? Even if you stream your own songs 10,000,000 times, any artist should only get the max. The person with that account paid for that account. So for 1000 accounts, $20 each, they should have a max. pay out 20k, not millions. It makes no sense.

    13. RememberThinkDream on

      It’s funny, and pathetic, how it’s not fraud when THEY do it. But when someone else figures out a loophole and makes money from them suddenly it’s fraud…

      It’s not terrorism when they are the winners, but only the losers are terrorists…

      „If you steal from one author, it’s plagiarism; if you steal from many, it’s research & original!“

      „The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources“

      „Originality is the art of concealing your sources“

      „Good artists copy, great artists steal.“

      „Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal“.

      Honestly… Those people are pathetic. Stupid as well, the people who allow it and don’t fight against it or support it are even worse though.

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