if the car is electric and everything is basically drive by computer would it not be possible to have settings about the way you want to drive?
drive like an automatic(hold brake to stop and stand)
hold/coast with no input
one pedal driving
The_Berry on
I can’t stand drive behind cars that have an auto brake system. Every time they let off the accelerator, the brake lights go on. How am I supposed to tell the intensity of the braking force applied ahead of me? I don’t mind it being used for regen but it shouldn’t be activating the brake lights
xpda on
Maybe, but it is darned squirrelly and inconvenient.
sharkowictz on
One pedal driving is extremely intuitive. My 16yo learned ICE clutch, ICE automatic and one pedal, and we all prefer it, particularly in traffic. You ease up on the accelerator when you want to slow down in a regular vehicle. The brake is there if you need to slow down faster.
sp3kter on
One pedal driving makes driving on the highway look like a red light disco
dasponge on
I prefer blended braking. You get easy smooth coasting. I find one pedal driving jerky, especially as a passenger; you lose that smooth transition through 0 net acceleration usually. People let up fully off the pedal and regen engages in 1 pedal mode.
crujones43 on
I just changed the factory brake pads on my model 3 at 320,000 km. One pedal driving is amazing.
Hydrottle on
A lot of comments here from people who don’t drive EVs. I drive one (IONIQ 5). Love the thing. I use the one-pedal mode in heavy traffic but use regular pedals for higher speed driving. In my car, the one-pedal mode leaves both axles engaged so when you’re driving at higher speeds you end up wasting some efficiency. But in heavy traffic, it doesn’t matter since you’re stopping and going anyways and both axles tend to be engaged during slower speeds anyways.
A lot of drivers coming from ICE cars are going to EVs with single pedal driving and are surprised that coming off the accelerator is a strong deceleration instead of coasting. Most EVs, if not all, let you adjust this level of deceleration. My car can feel almost identical to an ICE between level 1 or 2 regen, while level 3 is very strong and the one-pedal driving is unlike ICE at all. If you are taking your foot off the accelerator in single pedal driving, you’re going to be effectively putting your foot on the brake about halfway down. Your brake lights will come on after your braking action exceeds a certain amount. You’re going to piss off your passengers and the people behind you if you’re driving like that. Plus it’s just inefficient.
swisstraeng on
One pedal is undriveable just as much as steering joysticks.
Boys4Ever on
I use ACC as one pedal driving in traffic. It’s awesome. Is EV the same experience as I’m guessing you slow down regardless of what’s not in front of you and why perhaps using ACC still a better option.
chambee on
Wrapping your head around all the regen stuff on an EV is quite a learning curve. I had mine for a year now and most of the time I use auto level 1 it gives a bit more braking than just coasting and works well in traffic since it adjusts to cars in front. I tried one pedal many times and I found it annoying to keep your feet in a perfect position to maintain speed. My town doesn’t have heavy traffic so I suspect I can’t really test it for what it’s worth.
Xelopheris on
One pedal driving itself isn’t an issue. But Jesus fucking Christ, make regulations around how the brake lights are supposed to apply when there is a deceleration force applied in one pedal mode.
knurleddrifter on
At this point if I’m driving a car that doesn’t have regen it feels wasteful. As a lot of comments have noted, one-pedal driving is a new skill to develop. You can’t manipulate the pedal the same way as 2 pedal driving.
Punman_5 on
It shouldn’t be. It’s only an issue if the manufacturer is stupid enough to forget to activate the brake lights when you lift off the gas while one-pedal driving.
cwhiterun on
My car has zero pedal driving and I think it’s the best of both worlds.
crow1170 on
Then GIVE IT BACK.
searedbirdeighs on
I love how regeneration works on my e-tron. I have paddles to set level 1 or 2 regeneration. Level 1 doesn’t make the brake lights come on while level 2 does. It’s not full one pedal driving but makes it so the brake lights don’t get activated every 2 seconds
NMe84 on
How do you do an emergency stop with one pedal? How do you differentiate between braking slowly or quickly? And what do you really gain by getting rid of the brake pedal?
It seems like a solution for a problem that didn’t exist.
SomeSchmidt on
One pedal driving irks me. There are essentially two modes: send power to the drivetrain or brake regeneratively. What happened to coasting?!
LazloHollifeld on
It isn’t an issue, but they really should mandate at what deceleration speed the brake lights come on at.
CommonerChaos on
I’d argue that one pedal driving is safer than standard driving, because the default for your foot being off the gas is to slow down/stop, NOT to creep forward like standard vehicles.
Imagine if someone faints while driving. With an EV they’ll immediately slow down and come to a stop vs with an ICE vehicle, they’ll keep proceeding forward for a long time, hitting vehicles and pedestrians.
Ylmaris on
Finally some good news from the feds for once
Ylmaris on
Finally some common sense from the feds
schleppy on
Did anyone actually think it was dangerous? I hate going back to cars without it.
MAurele on
Manual drivers… We just didn’t give a fuck about brake lights.
ZippyTheUnicorn on
Can someone explain how one-pedal driving works? The article says it is a feature in some EV vehicles, and it can have a learning curve. But it doesn’t explain at all how the driver controls it.
Phazoni on
I use one pedal driving in my Bolt EUV. I turn it off when on the highway/freeway however as I noticed it annoys other drivers.
ValveinPistonCat on
Heavy trucks have had one pedal driving for decades and it was always obvious when they were braking, we just need to have EVs with that capability fitted with a speaker that emits the same audio warning as heavy trucks.
H_o on
Kia niro has flappy paddle options, I think it’s over 2 and the break lights come on if you lift off accelerator
SgtDefective2 on
Nobody has an issue with semis not turning brake lights on when using the Jake brake. So why do cars need brake lights when the actual brakes aren’t being used?
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I personally prefer three pedal driving…..
if the car is electric and everything is basically drive by computer would it not be possible to have settings about the way you want to drive?
drive like an automatic(hold brake to stop and stand)
hold/coast with no input
one pedal driving
I can’t stand drive behind cars that have an auto brake system. Every time they let off the accelerator, the brake lights go on. How am I supposed to tell the intensity of the braking force applied ahead of me? I don’t mind it being used for regen but it shouldn’t be activating the brake lights
Maybe, but it is darned squirrelly and inconvenient.
One pedal driving is extremely intuitive. My 16yo learned ICE clutch, ICE automatic and one pedal, and we all prefer it, particularly in traffic. You ease up on the accelerator when you want to slow down in a regular vehicle. The brake is there if you need to slow down faster.
One pedal driving makes driving on the highway look like a red light disco
I prefer blended braking. You get easy smooth coasting. I find one pedal driving jerky, especially as a passenger; you lose that smooth transition through 0 net acceleration usually. People let up fully off the pedal and regen engages in 1 pedal mode.
I just changed the factory brake pads on my model 3 at 320,000 km. One pedal driving is amazing.
A lot of comments here from people who don’t drive EVs. I drive one (IONIQ 5). Love the thing. I use the one-pedal mode in heavy traffic but use regular pedals for higher speed driving. In my car, the one-pedal mode leaves both axles engaged so when you’re driving at higher speeds you end up wasting some efficiency. But in heavy traffic, it doesn’t matter since you’re stopping and going anyways and both axles tend to be engaged during slower speeds anyways.
A lot of drivers coming from ICE cars are going to EVs with single pedal driving and are surprised that coming off the accelerator is a strong deceleration instead of coasting. Most EVs, if not all, let you adjust this level of deceleration. My car can feel almost identical to an ICE between level 1 or 2 regen, while level 3 is very strong and the one-pedal driving is unlike ICE at all. If you are taking your foot off the accelerator in single pedal driving, you’re going to be effectively putting your foot on the brake about halfway down. Your brake lights will come on after your braking action exceeds a certain amount. You’re going to piss off your passengers and the people behind you if you’re driving like that. Plus it’s just inefficient.
One pedal is undriveable just as much as steering joysticks.
I use ACC as one pedal driving in traffic. It’s awesome. Is EV the same experience as I’m guessing you slow down regardless of what’s not in front of you and why perhaps using ACC still a better option.
Wrapping your head around all the regen stuff on an EV is quite a learning curve. I had mine for a year now and most of the time I use auto level 1 it gives a bit more braking than just coasting and works well in traffic since it adjusts to cars in front. I tried one pedal many times and I found it annoying to keep your feet in a perfect position to maintain speed. My town doesn’t have heavy traffic so I suspect I can’t really test it for what it’s worth.
One pedal driving itself isn’t an issue. But Jesus fucking Christ, make regulations around how the brake lights are supposed to apply when there is a deceleration force applied in one pedal mode.
At this point if I’m driving a car that doesn’t have regen it feels wasteful. As a lot of comments have noted, one-pedal driving is a new skill to develop. You can’t manipulate the pedal the same way as 2 pedal driving.
It shouldn’t be. It’s only an issue if the manufacturer is stupid enough to forget to activate the brake lights when you lift off the gas while one-pedal driving.
My car has zero pedal driving and I think it’s the best of both worlds.
Then GIVE IT BACK.
I love how regeneration works on my e-tron. I have paddles to set level 1 or 2 regeneration. Level 1 doesn’t make the brake lights come on while level 2 does. It’s not full one pedal driving but makes it so the brake lights don’t get activated every 2 seconds
How do you do an emergency stop with one pedal? How do you differentiate between braking slowly or quickly? And what do you really gain by getting rid of the brake pedal?
It seems like a solution for a problem that didn’t exist.
One pedal driving irks me. There are essentially two modes: send power to the drivetrain or brake regeneratively. What happened to coasting?!
It isn’t an issue, but they really should mandate at what deceleration speed the brake lights come on at.
I’d argue that one pedal driving is safer than standard driving, because the default for your foot being off the gas is to slow down/stop, NOT to creep forward like standard vehicles.
Imagine if someone faints while driving. With an EV they’ll immediately slow down and come to a stop vs with an ICE vehicle, they’ll keep proceeding forward for a long time, hitting vehicles and pedestrians.
Finally some good news from the feds for once
Finally some common sense from the feds
Did anyone actually think it was dangerous? I hate going back to cars without it.
Manual drivers… We just didn’t give a fuck about brake lights.
Can someone explain how one-pedal driving works? The article says it is a feature in some EV vehicles, and it can have a learning curve. But it doesn’t explain at all how the driver controls it.
I use one pedal driving in my Bolt EUV. I turn it off when on the highway/freeway however as I noticed it annoys other drivers.
Heavy trucks have had one pedal driving for decades and it was always obvious when they were braking, we just need to have EVs with that capability fitted with a speaker that emits the same audio warning as heavy trucks.
Kia niro has flappy paddle options, I think it’s over 2 and the break lights come on if you lift off accelerator
Nobody has an issue with semis not turning brake lights on when using the Jake brake. So why do cars need brake lights when the actual brakes aren’t being used?