He’s being criticized by a surrogate for his primary rival in the race, for ‚abandoning‘ Alberta New Democrats by opposing fossil fuel expansion. This is not ‚politics of subtraction‘ as Shannon Phillips describes it, it’s a politician having a clear policy stance.
In fact, Shannon Phillips seems to be the divisive one in this conversation. Just this week on ‚The Strategists‘ podcast, Phillips suggested that Provincial NDP branches [should prepare to separate from the federal NDP and make attack ads against Lewis](https://shows.acast.com/strategistspod/episodes/episode-4018-zohran-mcphillips).
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The purpose of the federal ndp is to be a guard rail against the overton window in Canada moving too far to the right. Frankly, I think Canada has moved too far to the right and the NDP needs someone like Avi Lewis to represent those of us who don’t believe this neo-liberal gaslighting that is going on.
Forever_32 on
Avi isn’t lying when he tells you who he is, I will give him points for consistency.
Unfortunately he’s the type of activist that would rather stay pure and yell from the sidelines, than get his hands dirty with compromise and actually govern.
He’s going to make the activist base of the NDP feel really great about themselves all the way to the demise of the party.
Godzilla52 on
Think we might be heading into a pretty strong decade for the Liberals if the rest of the opposition continues on it’s present trajectory. The CPC’s utter state of dysfunction will likely worsen under most of the possible post-Poilievre leaders (maybe Ford could at least stem the beading, even if he’d almost certainly still get trounced by Carney in most cases) while a Lewis lead NDP focusing more on the fringes and activist side of the party is likely to struggle to make the party more electable while the BQ have been effectively sidelined due to Trump.
It might not be until after 2029 that the opposition even gets an opportunity to start getting their act together at this rate. (which at short of a massive blunder likely secures the Liberals position at minimum until 2033)
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More Avi Lewis promotion.
You have to admire the dedication of his supporters trying to will this into relevance while most of the country is, at best, pretty “meh” on the NDP right now. The polling isn’t exactly subtle about that.
Instead of reflecting on why the party is struggling to connect, it feels like the instinct is to double down on the same messaging that got them here in the first place. It’s often some version of “this time we’ll do it better,” without really addressing why it hasn’t been landing.
Then there is the folly of thinking they gonna run him in Torornto in a a safe liberal riding and win a seat
LubaUnderfoot on
I would like the NDP to reaffirm their party scope as a Democratic Socialist party.
NDP is not a leftist catch all and not a communist party (we already have a communist party).
I don’t think it’s accurate that people are „moving right“ ideologically. They’re moving center. They’re moving *away* from extreme idealism. They also came with deaths in the hundreds of thousands.
Some of the loudest voices „advocating“ for the party are so deeply entrenched in intellectual idealism they have cheerfully forgotten that communist revolutions *did* mean the redistribution of personal property including houses farms and land.
More worryingly, they’ve forgotten the university purges that preceded and happened concurrent with communist revolutions in Russia and China. They’ve forgotten the displaced diaspora of people fleeing regime changes, too.
zylamaquag on
Party of the working class eh. Moving away from grassroots and drifting further left socially is about as effective as the CPC drifting further right socially. Not popular. Divisive.
Appeal to moderates. Defer to factual, science- and economic-based policies. Tone down the rhetoric. The relentless march towards ever-greater polarization is how you end up with the clusterfuck down south.
If you have real discussions and eschew performance-based politics, it’s amazing that you find how much more Canadians have in common versus what separates us.
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He’s being criticized by a surrogate for his primary rival in the race, for ‚abandoning‘ Alberta New Democrats by opposing fossil fuel expansion. This is not ‚politics of subtraction‘ as Shannon Phillips describes it, it’s a politician having a clear policy stance.
In fact, Shannon Phillips seems to be the divisive one in this conversation. Just this week on ‚The Strategists‘ podcast, Phillips suggested that Provincial NDP branches [should prepare to separate from the federal NDP and make attack ads against Lewis](https://shows.acast.com/strategistspod/episodes/episode-4018-zohran-mcphillips).
The purpose of the federal ndp is to be a guard rail against the overton window in Canada moving too far to the right. Frankly, I think Canada has moved too far to the right and the NDP needs someone like Avi Lewis to represent those of us who don’t believe this neo-liberal gaslighting that is going on.
Avi isn’t lying when he tells you who he is, I will give him points for consistency.
Unfortunately he’s the type of activist that would rather stay pure and yell from the sidelines, than get his hands dirty with compromise and actually govern.
He’s going to make the activist base of the NDP feel really great about themselves all the way to the demise of the party.
Think we might be heading into a pretty strong decade for the Liberals if the rest of the opposition continues on it’s present trajectory. The CPC’s utter state of dysfunction will likely worsen under most of the possible post-Poilievre leaders (maybe Ford could at least stem the beading, even if he’d almost certainly still get trounced by Carney in most cases) while a Lewis lead NDP focusing more on the fringes and activist side of the party is likely to struggle to make the party more electable while the BQ have been effectively sidelined due to Trump.
It might not be until after 2029 that the opposition even gets an opportunity to start getting their act together at this rate. (which at short of a massive blunder likely secures the Liberals position at minimum until 2033)
More Avi Lewis promotion.
You have to admire the dedication of his supporters trying to will this into relevance while most of the country is, at best, pretty “meh” on the NDP right now. The polling isn’t exactly subtle about that.
Instead of reflecting on why the party is struggling to connect, it feels like the instinct is to double down on the same messaging that got them here in the first place. It’s often some version of “this time we’ll do it better,” without really addressing why it hasn’t been landing.
Then there is the folly of thinking they gonna run him in Torornto in a a safe liberal riding and win a seat
I would like the NDP to reaffirm their party scope as a Democratic Socialist party.
NDP is not a leftist catch all and not a communist party (we already have a communist party).
I don’t think it’s accurate that people are „moving right“ ideologically. They’re moving center. They’re moving *away* from extreme idealism. They also came with deaths in the hundreds of thousands.
Some of the loudest voices „advocating“ for the party are so deeply entrenched in intellectual idealism they have cheerfully forgotten that communist revolutions *did* mean the redistribution of personal property including houses farms and land.
More worryingly, they’ve forgotten the university purges that preceded and happened concurrent with communist revolutions in Russia and China. They’ve forgotten the displaced diaspora of people fleeing regime changes, too.
Party of the working class eh. Moving away from grassroots and drifting further left socially is about as effective as the CPC drifting further right socially. Not popular. Divisive.
Appeal to moderates. Defer to factual, science- and economic-based policies. Tone down the rhetoric. The relentless march towards ever-greater polarization is how you end up with the clusterfuck down south.
If you have real discussions and eschew performance-based politics, it’s amazing that you find how much more Canadians have in common versus what separates us.