The main thing is that Americans really don’t want this war and we don’t see any benefit to America through this war, whereas Iran basically doesn’t have anything to lose by this point. Or at least, anything it really cares about. That’s the problem. Iran is extremely vicious right now, and this is all hurting America every day it’s continuing. Also, Trump’s an absolute idiot and he’s making a lot of extremely stupid decisions, so that hurts our strategic capabilities.
Snakesandrats on
We just need to take the L and leave. Donald can tell Maga he cut a tremendous „deal“ or whatever they will be happy. Just get the hell out before things get even worse.
Then_Journalist_317 on
Trump 2020: „I won the election.“
Trump 2026: „I won the excursion.“
Eddfan36 on
Well, yah. Trump and his buddies are idiots.
LordSiravant on
Honestly, a part of me is surprised that neither Trump nor Netanyahu have used the war as an excuse to drop a nuke on Tehran and call it a day. Perhaps at the end of the day, even these psychopaths are still afraid of crossing that line. I certainly hope it stays that way.
TheGOPisTheDeepState on
America taking Ls left and right with Trump and Republicans America last campaign.
Western-Knightrider on
At this point I do not think anyone is winning, we are all losing. Too late now, but my thoughts are that the US should never have gotten into this. Thanks Trump!
ChaoticSenior on
But hey, we created an entire new generation of terrorists. So we’ve got that going for us.
JeRazor on
So are we saying that Iran have the cards?
ZenRage on
How do you win a war if you cannot state a clear military objective?
Long-Associate-7793 on
They just couldn’t stand that Obama may get some credit (seen as a victory) with the Iran nuclear agreement. Fox News and others convinced the uninformed it was a terrible deal. Trump, as one of the uninformed swayed by Fox, pulled out of the agreement.
I’ll ask Fox and MAGA, is this better? Fox misinformation is the reason we’re in this situation. I hope Hannity appreciates his salary at this cost.
Msink on
Give it to Trump and his cronies to take the might of the military power and lose a war.
Morgan-Explosion on
Trump personally benefits from this so it wont end. Hes deflecting from Epstein, making money on oil investments, and potentially creating a conflict so disruptive that he could suspend elections. He doesn’t care about anything else.
Stillwater215 on
Iran has a clear, definite goal: survive with the regime intact. Meanwhile, the US and Israel don’t really have clear goals that can be demanded. They won’t walk away until they can declare victory, but you can’t declare victory when you don’t have a victory condition you’re working towards.
kt2984 on
when a syphilis ridden pedophile is in charge of anything you can bet it’s going to be a disaster
Orion14159 on
Well they aren’t led by a near octogenarian with dementia and surrounded by the dumbest yes men available so I feel like this was inevitable.
It’s like playing chess against a chicken whose keepers only taught him to peck on pictures of himself.
boxer21 on
Our armed forces need to stand down
honuworld on
Trump went into this conflict under the impression that we would lob bombs for a week, then he could claim total victory, and that he made a great „deal“ for the U.S., and that he stopped another war. Then he would demand the Peace Prize again. This is still his plan.
Then_Journalist_317 on
„In two weeks, I will release the concept of a plan to re-open the Strait to shipping. Until, then, just sail into certain death.“
Wayward_Whines on
There’s no stated goal for this war. They haven’t said what the goal is and I don’t think they have one. Is it regime change? Nuclear disarmament? Super vague anti terror shit? You can’t “win” a war if you don’t have a finish line.
Is Iran winning? So far yes. Their goal is survival and they’re still there and punching back.
Chest pounding no quarter total war rah rah talk is just idiotic at this point. Because there is no point.
metallicadefender on
USA is def not losing but if they leave things as they are now you cant really call that a win either.
Its like they did not anticipate this happening with the straight.
CherryLongjump1989 on
We killed their idiot, but we’ve still got ours. That’s a significant strategic disadvantage.
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This has been Iran’s singular focus for decades
The problem is where Iran stuck that upper hand!
The main thing is that Americans really don’t want this war and we don’t see any benefit to America through this war, whereas Iran basically doesn’t have anything to lose by this point. Or at least, anything it really cares about. That’s the problem. Iran is extremely vicious right now, and this is all hurting America every day it’s continuing. Also, Trump’s an absolute idiot and he’s making a lot of extremely stupid decisions, so that hurts our strategic capabilities.
We just need to take the L and leave. Donald can tell Maga he cut a tremendous „deal“ or whatever they will be happy. Just get the hell out before things get even worse.
Trump 2020: „I won the election.“
Trump 2026: „I won the excursion.“
Well, yah. Trump and his buddies are idiots.
Honestly, a part of me is surprised that neither Trump nor Netanyahu have used the war as an excuse to drop a nuke on Tehran and call it a day. Perhaps at the end of the day, even these psychopaths are still afraid of crossing that line. I certainly hope it stays that way.
America taking Ls left and right with Trump and Republicans America last campaign.
At this point I do not think anyone is winning, we are all losing. Too late now, but my thoughts are that the US should never have gotten into this. Thanks Trump!
But hey, we created an entire new generation of terrorists. So we’ve got that going for us.
So are we saying that Iran have the cards?
How do you win a war if you cannot state a clear military objective?
They just couldn’t stand that Obama may get some credit (seen as a victory) with the Iran nuclear agreement. Fox News and others convinced the uninformed it was a terrible deal. Trump, as one of the uninformed swayed by Fox, pulled out of the agreement.
I’ll ask Fox and MAGA, is this better? Fox misinformation is the reason we’re in this situation. I hope Hannity appreciates his salary at this cost.
Give it to Trump and his cronies to take the might of the military power and lose a war.
Trump personally benefits from this so it wont end. Hes deflecting from Epstein, making money on oil investments, and potentially creating a conflict so disruptive that he could suspend elections. He doesn’t care about anything else.
Iran has a clear, definite goal: survive with the regime intact. Meanwhile, the US and Israel don’t really have clear goals that can be demanded. They won’t walk away until they can declare victory, but you can’t declare victory when you don’t have a victory condition you’re working towards.
when a syphilis ridden pedophile is in charge of anything you can bet it’s going to be a disaster
Well they aren’t led by a near octogenarian with dementia and surrounded by the dumbest yes men available so I feel like this was inevitable.
It’s like playing chess against a chicken whose keepers only taught him to peck on pictures of himself.
Our armed forces need to stand down
Trump went into this conflict under the impression that we would lob bombs for a week, then he could claim total victory, and that he made a great „deal“ for the U.S., and that he stopped another war. Then he would demand the Peace Prize again. This is still his plan.
„In two weeks, I will release the concept of a plan to re-open the Strait to shipping. Until, then, just sail into certain death.“
There’s no stated goal for this war. They haven’t said what the goal is and I don’t think they have one. Is it regime change? Nuclear disarmament? Super vague anti terror shit? You can’t “win” a war if you don’t have a finish line.
Is Iran winning? So far yes. Their goal is survival and they’re still there and punching back.
Chest pounding no quarter total war rah rah talk is just idiotic at this point. Because there is no point.
USA is def not losing but if they leave things as they are now you cant really call that a win either.
Its like they did not anticipate this happening with the straight.
We killed their idiot, but we’ve still got ours. That’s a significant strategic disadvantage.