You’d be calling for an end to the UNSC all together. It only ever existed to ensure the global dominance of the vetoing countries. You can always make your own special version, that seems to be in style lately.
Substantial_Milk8170 on
It’s easy to call for reform, much harder to convince the five permanent members to agree.
JPenniman on
I think the veto power still makes sense because it’s granted to the most powerful countries on the planet with the exception of France and the UK. I would want China, Russia, and the US to be on the same page otherwise the UN will just crumble and it’s important to have a place where countries can talk. It would be nice if the veto power could be reformed though to only pertain to a specific set of things and only in relation to select countries.
Over-Willingness-933 on
Yes and the US has prevented lots of awful nonsense getting passed.
Inevitable_Simple402 on
Without UNSC, UN goes by majority, where there are essentially two blocks: the muslim countries and the ones on China’s payroll. What a brave new world that would be to be controlled by those blocks.
Abject-Employer-5319 on
Qu’ils s’occupe de sont pays lui, qu’ils écoutent le peuple
Conscious-Crab-5057 on
Spain is irrelevant.
LoneWolfie1996 on
It’s hard for me to take Spains criticisms of the US / UNSC seriously when Spain takes very little action itself to solve the world issues. Spain wants “international rules” (whatever that even means) to be upheld but doesn’t want to actually contribute resources in the enforcement of the international world order.
Case in point- look at their response to Russias invasion of Ukraine and their historical disinterest in being reliable NATO partners.
Another example- Spain doesn’t like how Israel is treating Palestinians but Spain won’t go over there and defend Palestinians nor take in Palestinian refugees. “It’s not their job” – okay, then who’s is it?
Spain and to a lesser degree the rest of Europe have become performative experts.
krayniac on
ITT: idiots who don’t realise that veto power existing is literally the only thing keeping the UN together
Lamb_or_Beast on
I can’t say I disagree, but the members of the security council are not members because every UN member wants them there – they are the big nuclear armed world powers. Keeping a table open for communication is a good idea, but that’s all it really is in the end I think, a place to keep dialogue available to had.
Little-Stage1948 on
Sit in the corner and shut up Spain, you’re irrelevant.
Darkone539 on
The simple truth is the P5 were needed for the UN to work. Now, well the world has changed and the power balance isn’t the same, we still kind of need them.
The League of nations failed because Japan during the invasion of manchuria „well someone stop us“ and nobody did.
2shayyy on
Interesting how many comments there are here from people calling Spain “irrelevant”.
Either the bots are on the move or someone’s political leader has uploaded new marching orders.
Question, if Spain is so irrelevant – why are you here spending time commenting? Not something you bother doing to an irrelevant entity is it?
Zealousideal-Sort127 on
Lol, and why do they think they deserve more power?
UNSC is there to make sure losers like him dont have real influence.
LordOfTheSevenSeA69 on
Lmao bro thinks he can convince the top 5 to give up their veto power.
Delta27- on
Easy to call reform when you have no impact on the world economy, markets, decisions. How about spain becomes a super power again to be able to have the influence int he world? They want to benefit from being in charge without using any of its resources to do so.
Complex-Republic-443 on
The U.S. should push for the dissolution of the Spanish enclaves in Morocco. Kick them off Africa and hand the areas to Morocco, which is a close and friendly ally.
Might solve some migrant issues, too.
TxM_2404 on
Spain going on the naughty list right next to Denmark and North Korea.
urbanacrybaby on
The veto power is the thing preventing WW3. A lot of countries have a good justification to go to war with each other, and the UNSC lets the P5 provide an excuse to not go to war for other countries to sell to their citizens.
Ill_Wolverine_6265 on
Totalement d’accord et pourtant en tant que français, nous faisons partie du conseil. La logique veut que la majorité décide et non les russes,les chinois ou les américains, trop de décisions ont été bloquées à cause de ces 3 là
NoLime7384 on
Man who laments not being able to nuke Israel calls for change that would lead to countries getting nuked
Common Spaniard L
The-Last-Lion-Turtle on
That would end the UNs legitimacy not end the veto.
The UN is just the meeting table not a world government capable of giving powers.
Barbu-Genial on
Très bonne idée.
not_so_soon on
It’s about time UN is reformed!
monkeygoneape on
*vetoed by America, Russia, China, Britain, and France*
ndbrnnbrd on
This guy is such a fucking clown.
Agitated_Holiday_369 on
Je bois tes paroles Sanchez
dante_gherie1099 on
they need to just focus on fighting their one industry keeping them afloat
sajriz on
💯agree. A country that keeps starting wars on false pretexts should not / NEVER have veto power.
SneakyFire23 on
I wonder why since they’re such believers in stopping genocide and wars of aggression they haven’t pulled their ambassador from russia yet…
julien_091003 on
YES ! It should be a majority vote instead
Cyzax007 on
Another politician who doesn’t understand how the world works… No veto power, no big five in the UN…
mabiturm on
Ok sanchez, your point is clear by now. When is Spain going to pay for the european defense?
philabuster_60 on
When will this clown figure out he’s back bench peanut gallery?
Yyoksetioxd on
russia and ukraine, israel and palestine and this dude draws the line with fking iran lmao
K0TEM on
He didn’t do that when Russia attacked Ukraine, and he draws the line at Iran?
Horror_Essay_7854 on
An embarrassment for my country to have this president. Nothing else to say.
LeedsFan2442 on
That would kill the UN instantly. The veto keeps the major powers invested
Aggressive_Lie_4446 on
This delulu talking point is simply for scoring points with the electorate.
Can he go to China and Russia and ask them to give up their veto power??
No??
Then he needs to keep quiet.
Top_Box_8952 on
Just make a new UN
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You’d be calling for an end to the UNSC all together. It only ever existed to ensure the global dominance of the vetoing countries. You can always make your own special version, that seems to be in style lately.
It’s easy to call for reform, much harder to convince the five permanent members to agree.
I think the veto power still makes sense because it’s granted to the most powerful countries on the planet with the exception of France and the UK. I would want China, Russia, and the US to be on the same page otherwise the UN will just crumble and it’s important to have a place where countries can talk. It would be nice if the veto power could be reformed though to only pertain to a specific set of things and only in relation to select countries.
Yes and the US has prevented lots of awful nonsense getting passed.
Without UNSC, UN goes by majority, where there are essentially two blocks: the muslim countries and the ones on China’s payroll. What a brave new world that would be to be controlled by those blocks.
Qu’ils s’occupe de sont pays lui, qu’ils écoutent le peuple
Spain is irrelevant.
It’s hard for me to take Spains criticisms of the US / UNSC seriously when Spain takes very little action itself to solve the world issues. Spain wants “international rules” (whatever that even means) to be upheld but doesn’t want to actually contribute resources in the enforcement of the international world order.
Case in point- look at their response to Russias invasion of Ukraine and their historical disinterest in being reliable NATO partners.
Another example- Spain doesn’t like how Israel is treating Palestinians but Spain won’t go over there and defend Palestinians nor take in Palestinian refugees. “It’s not their job” – okay, then who’s is it?
Spain and to a lesser degree the rest of Europe have become performative experts.
ITT: idiots who don’t realise that veto power existing is literally the only thing keeping the UN together
I can’t say I disagree, but the members of the security council are not members because every UN member wants them there – they are the big nuclear armed world powers. Keeping a table open for communication is a good idea, but that’s all it really is in the end I think, a place to keep dialogue available to had.
Sit in the corner and shut up Spain, you’re irrelevant.
The simple truth is the P5 were needed for the UN to work. Now, well the world has changed and the power balance isn’t the same, we still kind of need them.
The League of nations failed because Japan during the invasion of manchuria „well someone stop us“ and nobody did.
Interesting how many comments there are here from people calling Spain “irrelevant”.
Either the bots are on the move or someone’s political leader has uploaded new marching orders.
Question, if Spain is so irrelevant – why are you here spending time commenting? Not something you bother doing to an irrelevant entity is it?
Lol, and why do they think they deserve more power?
UNSC is there to make sure losers like him dont have real influence.
Lmao bro thinks he can convince the top 5 to give up their veto power.
Easy to call reform when you have no impact on the world economy, markets, decisions. How about spain becomes a super power again to be able to have the influence int he world? They want to benefit from being in charge without using any of its resources to do so.
The U.S. should push for the dissolution of the Spanish enclaves in Morocco. Kick them off Africa and hand the areas to Morocco, which is a close and friendly ally.
Might solve some migrant issues, too.
Spain going on the naughty list right next to Denmark and North Korea.
The veto power is the thing preventing WW3. A lot of countries have a good justification to go to war with each other, and the UNSC lets the P5 provide an excuse to not go to war for other countries to sell to their citizens.
Totalement d’accord et pourtant en tant que français, nous faisons partie du conseil. La logique veut que la majorité décide et non les russes,les chinois ou les américains, trop de décisions ont été bloquées à cause de ces 3 là
Man who laments not being able to nuke Israel calls for change that would lead to countries getting nuked
Common Spaniard L
That would end the UNs legitimacy not end the veto.
The UN is just the meeting table not a world government capable of giving powers.
Très bonne idée.
It’s about time UN is reformed!
*vetoed by America, Russia, China, Britain, and France*
This guy is such a fucking clown.
Je bois tes paroles Sanchez
they need to just focus on fighting their one industry keeping them afloat
💯agree. A country that keeps starting wars on false pretexts should not / NEVER have veto power.
I wonder why since they’re such believers in stopping genocide and wars of aggression they haven’t pulled their ambassador from russia yet…
YES ! It should be a majority vote instead
Another politician who doesn’t understand how the world works… No veto power, no big five in the UN…
Ok sanchez, your point is clear by now. When is Spain going to pay for the european defense?
When will this clown figure out he’s back bench peanut gallery?
russia and ukraine, israel and palestine and this dude draws the line with fking iran lmao
He didn’t do that when Russia attacked Ukraine, and he draws the line at Iran?
An embarrassment for my country to have this president. Nothing else to say.
That would kill the UN instantly. The veto keeps the major powers invested
This delulu talking point is simply for scoring points with the electorate.
Can he go to China and Russia and ask them to give up their veto power??
No??
Then he needs to keep quiet.
Just make a new UN