How much could someone possibly use to get this? I use excessively and have for years and never encountered this. First time I’ve ever heard of it.
bloodandsunshine on
Definitely not interested in experiencing “scromitting” that the article talks about.
Anecdotally, switching to distillate and live resin has been good for my cardio performance compared to burning plant.
MetaCardboard on
I’m guessing the three deaths from this were due to dehydration. I couldn’t allow myself to stay in that ad-ridden article any longer than absolutely necessary.
Hot_Marionberry_4685 on
I wonder how much of an impact quality of the cartridge has on this disorder as well. I feel like I’ve definitely felt worse when using a cheap cartridge from a gas station for $30 as opposed to the better ones I get from a dispensary for $60. I also wonder if the additional unaccounted for chemicals can accelerate the speed at which you develop certain symptoms like this. I doubt it’s the primary cause because people who haven’t used thc vapes still succumb to this disorder through traditional marijuana use but there could definitely be chemicals that accelerate the process if it changes how thc is absorbed into your system from using them. Would love a follow up study on this
Seal481 on
Well yeah, carts are way more strong on average, so if you’re sucking on one all day every day you’re going to be taking in way more than a smoker.
Mochinpra on
As an avid cart user, the quality of the extract matters. Resin with little to no extra chems in the extraction process usually has minimal side effects. Cured resin or ones extracted with chemicals usually have side effects like headaches and nausea.
SsooooOriginal on
How about some research beyond survey questions?
I thought the majority of problems people were having was from the use of Vit E as a cutting agent for carts.
Zyrinj on
Would be good to know if this is brand specific or not, thing that has always kept me from carts vs getting flowers and making edibles is not knowing what other things I’d be inhaling.
eastcoastian on
It’s basically the new Reefer Madness strategy by big alcohol
reverendsteveii on
hear me out: it’s super rare among users (that’s why all the „OMG SCROMITING“ articles compare CHS to the number of vomiting cases in the ER as opposed to the number of people using) and quitting is 100% effective in curing it, so if I develop CHS I’ll quit smoking weed. I don’t need it to live but it makes my life better, so to give up very real benefits out of fear of a hypothetical cost is stupid.
punasuga on
the poisons in the dose ~ t-breaks are me breaks folks, take care of that endocannabinoid system!
old_raver_man3 on
Genetic predisposition explains why some people are affected and not others.
Dangerous_Diver_2442 on
When they mention vaping are they taking about cartridge vapes or dry herb flower vapes?
Juturna_ on
The article talks about specifically carts but nothing about DHV and I would assume any cannabis use can lead to CHS, but personally speaking vaping flower just feels… cleaner. Marginally. It also leads to less use because it gets you where you wanna go with less. So maybe healthier?
CHS sounds awful though.
Monstot on
The lead researcher stated themselves that this is only an association they noticed and simply reporting but they can’t draw conclusions.
So another nothing in the end.
Analgorilla on
I’ve had this twice before I decided to quit. Smoked it for around 10 years, very heavy user. Multiple times daily.
Funnily enough it was triggered the first time from TRYING to quit.
Doctors said I had cyclical vomiting syndrome. Lost 20lbs in a month. Not fun at all.
DreamsiclesPlz on
Anecdotally I tend to get kinda nauseous and have uncomfortable acid reflux symptoms if I rely on oil carts too much. I got sick earlier this year and I noticed I was crushing a lot of carts. I don’t notice these symptoms if I’m only using my Mighty DHV + flower.
Playtek on
Couple years back, I was a heavy vape user, but I did not like the way it would make my lungs and body feel. Switched to just doing herb and while smoking it’s *better* my body definitely feels less ragged compared to when I was vaping.
Then last year I discovered it’s really easy to grow it in your garage. I was always worried about pesticides that may have been used on the flower I get from my dispensary. So now I’m a fully self sufficient stoner and it’s been great!
I guess my next step is a dry herb vape I guess?
True-Bandicoot3880 on
This is actually why I stopped about 8 years ago now. I would wake up incredibly nauseous, diahrea, brain fog. Lasted probably a good 3 months at least. Lost a ton of weight and just didn’t feel right mentally. A year after that I was 100% back to normal after completely stopping.
thezeroskater on
What a garbage website. I spent more time closing out ads than I did reading the article.
SubzeroNYC on
I use a Volcano, not vape pens. My lungs feel fine. No vomiting.
maniamgood0 on
Oh absolutely. I’ve given myself CHS 4-5 times from vapes, never from any other form factor. They’re just too easy to mindlessly puff and spike your tolerance through the roof within days. I’m a few days into quitting (again) and dealing with the worst of it now.
Sharp-Wash-6259 on
This ain’t new information
Timeformayo on
Scromiting sounds like a jazz-ska fusion band music style.
dinnerthief on
Not very suprising considering vapes tend to be much stronger and used by people who are heavier users.
supergluu on
I use it almost daily but I try and wait until after 6pm and when the day is done. Helps me fall asleep and I sleep hard. I take month breaks every now and again to lower the tolerance.
Economy_Bag_7304 on
Yet more propaganda for the pro booze Nazi party.
Matt01060 on
I’ve been a grass smoker since age 13. Am 45 now. I never vomited from weed until I started vaping. When I say vomiting I’m talking four days hospitalized impatient with acute kidney failure. Was CHS.
MiCK_GaSM on
Has there been any study into the effects of remnant, light amounts of vapor that is not fully exhaled, and instead gets swallowed by the user? I wonder if there is a connection between that and this condition?
HereToSeeCoolStuff on
Just my anecdote but I’ve been admitted to the ER and diagnosed with this syndrome after binging on wax and vapes for a long time.
Switching back to grass completely resolved my condition.
I then used a vape from a buddy out of desperation since I ran out of bud and the syndrome came back, resulting in me going back to the hospital after losing so much fluids from vomiting and sweating in a hot shower for hours at a time (Hot water is a temporary remedy to alleviate the symptoms.)
This condition is a nightmare and you feel like you’re dying and in a state of confusion and dry-heaving for hours.
Take your concentrates in moderation, y’all.
ljlukelj on
Dry herb never had me feel any kind of way. Vape cartridges make me groggy, slow and generally the high sucks. There’s something off about vapes. Could just be me.
Bucking_Fullshit on
I got this from vaping thc.
Total-Elephant8731 on
May? May is a pretty powerful word. Maybe they should use the words „it’s possible“ or „it could happen“ or „kinda“.
You know it „may“ not be worse and it „may“ even be better.
I think I just blew their mind.
oruark on
In my opinion, the high thc levels and lack of cbd and terpenes in most vape carts causes people to use more and that is a fundamental flaw with vape carts. Vaping flower is the way to go.
revuhlutionn on
Yes because most vapes are poisoned by heavy metals and banned pesticides.
RichardCano on
This is exactly my case. I was a flower smoker before switching to cartridges for the convenience and discretion they allow. After about 2 years of usage I noticed I’d hit them way more often then I’d smoke flower for those exact same reasons. Eventually I started having morning nausea and vomiting and general feelings of malaise throughout the day.
“It couldn’t be the vape. Weed actually helps my nausea and appetite,” I thought as I’d continue to hit my pen many times a day. Doctors didn’t know what caused my nausea and thought it was nightly acid reflux. So I took some Pepsid AC while continuing to vape. Things didn’t get any better.
Eventually a friend of mine showed me a wiki page about cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, and it described my symptoms exactly. Down to the detail of hot baths and showers being the only relief. So I took a break from weed entirely and finally felt like normal again for the first time in a year. Now I stick to flower because it limits my usage and it’s much less concentrated. I’ve been fine for years now.
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How much could someone possibly use to get this? I use excessively and have for years and never encountered this. First time I’ve ever heard of it.
Definitely not interested in experiencing “scromitting” that the article talks about.
Anecdotally, switching to distillate and live resin has been good for my cardio performance compared to burning plant.
I’m guessing the three deaths from this were due to dehydration. I couldn’t allow myself to stay in that ad-ridden article any longer than absolutely necessary.
I wonder how much of an impact quality of the cartridge has on this disorder as well. I feel like I’ve definitely felt worse when using a cheap cartridge from a gas station for $30 as opposed to the better ones I get from a dispensary for $60. I also wonder if the additional unaccounted for chemicals can accelerate the speed at which you develop certain symptoms like this. I doubt it’s the primary cause because people who haven’t used thc vapes still succumb to this disorder through traditional marijuana use but there could definitely be chemicals that accelerate the process if it changes how thc is absorbed into your system from using them. Would love a follow up study on this
Well yeah, carts are way more strong on average, so if you’re sucking on one all day every day you’re going to be taking in way more than a smoker.
As an avid cart user, the quality of the extract matters. Resin with little to no extra chems in the extraction process usually has minimal side effects. Cured resin or ones extracted with chemicals usually have side effects like headaches and nausea.
How about some research beyond survey questions?
I thought the majority of problems people were having was from the use of Vit E as a cutting agent for carts.
Would be good to know if this is brand specific or not, thing that has always kept me from carts vs getting flowers and making edibles is not knowing what other things I’d be inhaling.
It’s basically the new Reefer Madness strategy by big alcohol
hear me out: it’s super rare among users (that’s why all the „OMG SCROMITING“ articles compare CHS to the number of vomiting cases in the ER as opposed to the number of people using) and quitting is 100% effective in curing it, so if I develop CHS I’ll quit smoking weed. I don’t need it to live but it makes my life better, so to give up very real benefits out of fear of a hypothetical cost is stupid.
the poisons in the dose ~ t-breaks are me breaks folks, take care of that endocannabinoid system!
Genetic predisposition explains why some people are affected and not others.
When they mention vaping are they taking about cartridge vapes or dry herb flower vapes?
The article talks about specifically carts but nothing about DHV and I would assume any cannabis use can lead to CHS, but personally speaking vaping flower just feels… cleaner. Marginally. It also leads to less use because it gets you where you wanna go with less. So maybe healthier?
CHS sounds awful though.
The lead researcher stated themselves that this is only an association they noticed and simply reporting but they can’t draw conclusions.
So another nothing in the end.
I’ve had this twice before I decided to quit. Smoked it for around 10 years, very heavy user. Multiple times daily.
Funnily enough it was triggered the first time from TRYING to quit.
Doctors said I had cyclical vomiting syndrome. Lost 20lbs in a month. Not fun at all.
Anecdotally I tend to get kinda nauseous and have uncomfortable acid reflux symptoms if I rely on oil carts too much. I got sick earlier this year and I noticed I was crushing a lot of carts. I don’t notice these symptoms if I’m only using my Mighty DHV + flower.
Couple years back, I was a heavy vape user, but I did not like the way it would make my lungs and body feel. Switched to just doing herb and while smoking it’s *better* my body definitely feels less ragged compared to when I was vaping.
Then last year I discovered it’s really easy to grow it in your garage. I was always worried about pesticides that may have been used on the flower I get from my dispensary. So now I’m a fully self sufficient stoner and it’s been great!
I guess my next step is a dry herb vape I guess?
This is actually why I stopped about 8 years ago now. I would wake up incredibly nauseous, diahrea, brain fog. Lasted probably a good 3 months at least. Lost a ton of weight and just didn’t feel right mentally. A year after that I was 100% back to normal after completely stopping.
What a garbage website. I spent more time closing out ads than I did reading the article.
I use a Volcano, not vape pens. My lungs feel fine. No vomiting.
Oh absolutely. I’ve given myself CHS 4-5 times from vapes, never from any other form factor. They’re just too easy to mindlessly puff and spike your tolerance through the roof within days. I’m a few days into quitting (again) and dealing with the worst of it now.
This ain’t new information
Scromiting sounds like a jazz-ska fusion band music style.
Not very suprising considering vapes tend to be much stronger and used by people who are heavier users.
I use it almost daily but I try and wait until after 6pm and when the day is done. Helps me fall asleep and I sleep hard. I take month breaks every now and again to lower the tolerance.
Yet more propaganda for the pro booze Nazi party.
I’ve been a grass smoker since age 13. Am 45 now. I never vomited from weed until I started vaping. When I say vomiting I’m talking four days hospitalized impatient with acute kidney failure. Was CHS.
Has there been any study into the effects of remnant, light amounts of vapor that is not fully exhaled, and instead gets swallowed by the user? I wonder if there is a connection between that and this condition?
Just my anecdote but I’ve been admitted to the ER and diagnosed with this syndrome after binging on wax and vapes for a long time.
Switching back to grass completely resolved my condition.
I then used a vape from a buddy out of desperation since I ran out of bud and the syndrome came back, resulting in me going back to the hospital after losing so much fluids from vomiting and sweating in a hot shower for hours at a time (Hot water is a temporary remedy to alleviate the symptoms.)
This condition is a nightmare and you feel like you’re dying and in a state of confusion and dry-heaving for hours.
Take your concentrates in moderation, y’all.
Dry herb never had me feel any kind of way. Vape cartridges make me groggy, slow and generally the high sucks. There’s something off about vapes. Could just be me.
I got this from vaping thc.
May? May is a pretty powerful word. Maybe they should use the words „it’s possible“ or „it could happen“ or „kinda“.
You know it „may“ not be worse and it „may“ even be better.
I think I just blew their mind.
In my opinion, the high thc levels and lack of cbd and terpenes in most vape carts causes people to use more and that is a fundamental flaw with vape carts. Vaping flower is the way to go.
Yes because most vapes are poisoned by heavy metals and banned pesticides.
This is exactly my case. I was a flower smoker before switching to cartridges for the convenience and discretion they allow. After about 2 years of usage I noticed I’d hit them way more often then I’d smoke flower for those exact same reasons. Eventually I started having morning nausea and vomiting and general feelings of malaise throughout the day.
“It couldn’t be the vape. Weed actually helps my nausea and appetite,” I thought as I’d continue to hit my pen many times a day. Doctors didn’t know what caused my nausea and thought it was nightly acid reflux. So I took some Pepsid AC while continuing to vape. Things didn’t get any better.
Eventually a friend of mine showed me a wiki page about cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, and it described my symptoms exactly. Down to the detail of hot baths and showers being the only relief. So I took a break from weed entirely and finally felt like normal again for the first time in a year. Now I stick to flower because it limits my usage and it’s much less concentrated. I’ve been fine for years now.