The mental gymnastics done here to justify stabbing your girlfriend to death is insane
Roaring-kutha on
What a joke
Alert-Ad5477 on
Fuck this judge!
GetsGold on
Headline is misleading. Murder is a mandatory life sentence. There’s no option to reduce it. They’re instead referring to when he can be paroled but even that wasn’t reduced. All that happened was that the judge set a shorter period (12 years) than the crown asked for (15 years) but still higher than the minimum (10 years). This is normal. Courts do not as a rule just apply exactly what the prosecution requests.
DukeofNormandy on
>As I have indicated, Mr. Downey has a substantial criminal record involving violence and firearms. I recognize, however, that the aggravating effect of his criminal record is offset in part by the mitigating circumstances of his background, as detailed in the IRCA,
Lol wut? Yes I know my client is a POS and doesn’t follow the law but please be merciful because he has had a tough life.
woo2fly21 on
I hope this is a clickbait title and not true
bamlote on
I’ve been watching cab drivers get away with assaulting and kidnapping women due to “language barriers” and “cultural differences” for 20 years now here in Winnipeg.
I wonder how many more women we need to sacrifice in the name of tolerance.
VividGiraffe on
> Prime Minister Trudeau also announced the appointment of the Honourable Heather J. Holmes, a judge of the Supreme Court of British Columbia, as Associate Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of British Columbia.
Comments always belie Canadians real feelings about this. People complain, but collectively we begged and whimpered for more of this.
Hefty-Comparison-801 on
Man I miss the MLK Jr. style of anti-racism: judging people by the content of their character instead of the colour of their skin.
According_Comedian69 on
So a murderer who is a repeated violent offender gets a reduced sentence because he had a tough life?
No consideration for the victim(s) or the family? Or society?
There needs to be judicial reform and oversight. This is a joke.
ForestHopper on
So still got life just us eligible for parole after 12 years instead of 15. I also think that is ridiculous bullshit, but im glad he didnt get off totally on that bullshit
izomo on
>
Downey experienced poverty, **the absence of his father in his early years, domestic violence at home** and shootings in his neighbourhood.
Aside from the obvious insanity from this decision, the lack of father in the home made in impact for the larger community.
Here2bebetter on
‚Downey experienced poverty, the absence of his father in his early years, domestic violence at home and shootings in his neighbourhood.‘
AND?
What does this have to do with a psychopath who repeatedly stabbed his girlfriend, not once, but 15 times in a mall? I don’t care what color he is. It has nothing to do with what happened. He deliberately intended to take her life, and he should face the full extent of the law.
We are doomed as a country. I don’t know how a judge can go home and the end of the day and think they did a great job. Nothing is making sense in this country anymore.
Weekly-Midnight7174 on
Actually curious about whether a troubled upbringing or history of abuse would lead to a reduction for a white person. Are those factors looked at in the same way?
CorgiSilver8194 on
Even our laws are racist…..
IEnjoyRandomThoughts on
If I’m to be frank, I would love the country to divide between left and right. I would relocate to a conservative area with the other 30% of the population. We would watch the 70% go bankrupt …
This country has lost its way.
North-Purple-373 on
The condescending racism of these Gladue laws is dumbfounding. If I was an indigenous or black person I’d be beyond insulted by laws that assume my racial group is more prone to violence and therefore deserves lighter sentencing.
Sweet_Pie1768 on
So was he going to stab his gf 20 times, but gave her a reduced death sentence of 15 stabs??
How does this work for the victim?
RT_456 on
There is absolutely zero logic to this.
starving_carnivore on
„He stabbed his girlfriend 15 times? That’s awful. Oh, he’s black? Standard. What do you expect? Go easy on him.“
>“As I have indicated, Mr. Downey has a substantial criminal record involving violence and firearms. I recognize, however, that the aggravating effect of his criminal record is offset in part by the mitigating circumstances of his background, as detailed in the IRCA,”
Speaks for itself. Parole in 12 years on a life sentence with a previous criminal history is itself hilarious, but a 3 year discount on parole because of his race makes it farcical.
TheBatmanWhoPuffs on
Canadian Laws are fucking ridiculous! The guilty are overly protected and the victims are left without justice regularly. Who cares what colour or race you are. Everyone knows the difference between right and wrong. On the flip side if you are a female who hooks up with someone with that type of background and history then you bear part of the responsibility of what happens to you when they repeat offend. The “He’s just misunderstood, or I can fix him” is just a fucking joke of reasoning.
slumlordscanstarve on
Feelings justify crimes apparently in Canada.
These judges are criminals for allowing this shit. They need to take a test that shows they are mentally capable of holding these positions.
Lucky_Grand_8977 on
Ive said it before and ill say it again – The primary objective of prison is not punishment, its the protection of the broader public.
We remove dangerous people from society to protect the rest of us. That is why we race should not be considered in sentencing. Yes systematic racism exists and is an awful thing, but this is not how it should be dealt with.
Clear-Consequence114 on
Judges should have to have guest houses or spaces on their property to house these folks when they get parole then. I’m tired of violent criminals getting lighter sentences because the wind whispered they were oppressed or whatever excuse it is.
BettinBrando on
This reminds me of the situation with the murderers of indigenous women having reduced sentences. Decades ago they decided that the fact someone is indigenous, because of the historical discrimination against them, judges should take into consideration when Sentencing them for crimes of that discrimination they faced. **The Gladue Principles.**
Ok fair enough.
However, decades later a horn was sounded and racism was accused because people saw the statitistics. People who murdered indigenous women clearly had lower conviction rates. But then they did more digging and realized its because indigenous men are the most common murderers of indigenous women and judges were taking the fact these men were native into consideration and giving them lighter sentences or no conviction. So while they were trying to „right the wrongs of history“ they actually created a situation where they were letting murderers free
tvosss on
It really makes a statement that not everyone is equal and it’s a big problem.
daytime10ca on
So if a white person grows up with experienced poverty, the absence of his father in his early years, domestic violence at home and shootings etc. do they also get to go through this Impact of Race and Culture Assessment (IRCA)?
Or is this directly tied to the color of someone’s skin?
Leave A Reply
Du musst angemeldet sein, um einen Kommentar abzugeben.
31 Kommentare
Link for us non-subscribers?
Classic.
The gladau discount strikes again
What are we doing…
The mental gymnastics done here to justify stabbing your girlfriend to death is insane
What a joke
Fuck this judge!
Headline is misleading. Murder is a mandatory life sentence. There’s no option to reduce it. They’re instead referring to when he can be paroled but even that wasn’t reduced. All that happened was that the judge set a shorter period (12 years) than the crown asked for (15 years) but still higher than the minimum (10 years). This is normal. Courts do not as a rule just apply exactly what the prosecution requests.
>As I have indicated, Mr. Downey has a substantial criminal record involving violence and firearms. I recognize, however, that the aggravating effect of his criminal record is offset in part by the mitigating circumstances of his background, as detailed in the IRCA,
Lol wut? Yes I know my client is a POS and doesn’t follow the law but please be merciful because he has had a tough life.
I hope this is a clickbait title and not true
I’ve been watching cab drivers get away with assaulting and kidnapping women due to “language barriers” and “cultural differences” for 20 years now here in Winnipeg.
I wonder how many more women we need to sacrifice in the name of tolerance.
> Prime Minister Trudeau also announced the appointment of the Honourable Heather J. Holmes, a judge of the Supreme Court of British Columbia, as Associate Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of British Columbia.
Comments always belie Canadians real feelings about this. People complain, but collectively we begged and whimpered for more of this.
Man I miss the MLK Jr. style of anti-racism: judging people by the content of their character instead of the colour of their skin.
So a murderer who is a repeated violent offender gets a reduced sentence because he had a tough life?
No consideration for the victim(s) or the family? Or society?
There needs to be judicial reform and oversight. This is a joke.
So still got life just us eligible for parole after 12 years instead of 15. I also think that is ridiculous bullshit, but im glad he didnt get off totally on that bullshit
>
Downey experienced poverty, **the absence of his father in his early years, domestic violence at home** and shootings in his neighbourhood.
Aside from the obvious insanity from this decision, the lack of father in the home made in impact for the larger community.
‚Downey experienced poverty, the absence of his father in his early years, domestic violence at home and shootings in his neighbourhood.‘
AND?
What does this have to do with a psychopath who repeatedly stabbed his girlfriend, not once, but 15 times in a mall? I don’t care what color he is. It has nothing to do with what happened. He deliberately intended to take her life, and he should face the full extent of the law.
We are doomed as a country. I don’t know how a judge can go home and the end of the day and think they did a great job. Nothing is making sense in this country anymore.
Actually curious about whether a troubled upbringing or history of abuse would lead to a reduction for a white person. Are those factors looked at in the same way?
Even our laws are racist…..
If I’m to be frank, I would love the country to divide between left and right. I would relocate to a conservative area with the other 30% of the population. We would watch the 70% go bankrupt …
This country has lost its way.
The condescending racism of these Gladue laws is dumbfounding. If I was an indigenous or black person I’d be beyond insulted by laws that assume my racial group is more prone to violence and therefore deserves lighter sentencing.
So was he going to stab his gf 20 times, but gave her a reduced death sentence of 15 stabs??
How does this work for the victim?
There is absolutely zero logic to this.
„He stabbed his girlfriend 15 times? That’s awful. Oh, he’s black? Standard. What do you expect? Go easy on him.“
>“As I have indicated, Mr. Downey has a substantial criminal record involving violence and firearms. I recognize, however, that the aggravating effect of his criminal record is offset in part by the mitigating circumstances of his background, as detailed in the IRCA,”
Speaks for itself. Parole in 12 years on a life sentence with a previous criminal history is itself hilarious, but a 3 year discount on parole because of his race makes it farcical.
Canadian Laws are fucking ridiculous! The guilty are overly protected and the victims are left without justice regularly. Who cares what colour or race you are. Everyone knows the difference between right and wrong. On the flip side if you are a female who hooks up with someone with that type of background and history then you bear part of the responsibility of what happens to you when they repeat offend. The “He’s just misunderstood, or I can fix him” is just a fucking joke of reasoning.
Feelings justify crimes apparently in Canada.
These judges are criminals for allowing this shit. They need to take a test that shows they are mentally capable of holding these positions.
Ive said it before and ill say it again – The primary objective of prison is not punishment, its the protection of the broader public.
We remove dangerous people from society to protect the rest of us. That is why we race should not be considered in sentencing. Yes systematic racism exists and is an awful thing, but this is not how it should be dealt with.
Judges should have to have guest houses or spaces on their property to house these folks when they get parole then. I’m tired of violent criminals getting lighter sentences because the wind whispered they were oppressed or whatever excuse it is.
This reminds me of the situation with the murderers of indigenous women having reduced sentences. Decades ago they decided that the fact someone is indigenous, because of the historical discrimination against them, judges should take into consideration when Sentencing them for crimes of that discrimination they faced. **The Gladue Principles.**
Ok fair enough.
However, decades later a horn was sounded and racism was accused because people saw the statitistics. People who murdered indigenous women clearly had lower conviction rates. But then they did more digging and realized its because indigenous men are the most common murderers of indigenous women and judges were taking the fact these men were native into consideration and giving them lighter sentences or no conviction. So while they were trying to „right the wrongs of history“ they actually created a situation where they were letting murderers free
It really makes a statement that not everyone is equal and it’s a big problem.
So if a white person grows up with experienced poverty, the absence of his father in his early years, domestic violence at home and shootings etc. do they also get to go through this Impact of Race and Culture Assessment (IRCA)?
Or is this directly tied to the color of someone’s skin?