Well at least there weren’t any christmas parties involved this time
Next question is, is Idlout coming on the Norway trip? She mentioned arctic security as one of her reasons for crossing iirc
joeshabadoo72 on
I can appreciate why Carney might want to to form a majority government with byelections and floor crossers as oppose to take the risk of another election, however looking at the polls right now I kind of wish he’d just pull the trigger and hopefully crush Poilievre once and for all.
Chrristoaivalis on
I think both the Poilievre and Carney camps are being insufferable on this issue
For Poilievre’s camp: They’re 100% fine with floor-crossing, as is his party. The NDP for many years has proposed legislation to ban the process, and they’ve never supported it. He’s just mad people aren’t crossing to him
For Carney’s camp: they’re „um actually-ing“ a pretty troubling trend of disrespecting the will of the voters. I have a PhD in history, so I’m well aware of the ‚constitutional technicalities‘ wherein we only elect MPs, and the parties and PM are irrelevant
But that’s just not how the *vast* majority of voters think, feel, and act.
The actual results tell us that „we elect MPs, not Prime Ministers“ is largely BS.
Look at the *hundreds* of Liberal MPs set to lose their seat until Carney
If the election was really about the local candidate, a new guy running in Nepean and another retiring in Papineau would mean nothing.
A red wave happened in large part because of Carney and Trump, neither of whom are local MPs
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So Poilievre needs to sign onto a pledge to ban floor crossing if he wants to whine about it, and the Liberals need to realize that technicalities don’t invalidate the spirit of how the people exercise their mandate.
Theseactuallydo on
My prediction is that there will still be at least one more Conservative floor crosser, and that Carney will end up with his majority soon.
But I expect he’ll call the Conservative bluff complaining about an unelected majority and call an election on the grounds that Canadians would prefer to vote in a majority.
postusa2 on
Well, it might hand a majority but at the same time it builds risk in the other direction. MPs contemplating crossing the floor have power now in terms of what the Liberals will offer…. once they have the majority it gives a floor crosser the power to take that away.
Peach-Grand on
It’s a shame poilievre voted against the proposed change to floor crossings back when the NDP brought it forward, since he seems so bothered by them now🤷♀️
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ChimoEngr on
I hate headline writers. Poilievre whining is briefly mentioned at the end of the article, while most of it focuses on why Idlout decided to make the switch.
ThnikkamanBubs on
I overheard a coworkers podcast today (said coworker has F TRUDEAU stickers and has his stuff wrapped in American flag…) saying “CROOKED CARNEY is STEALING the majority”
I fucking hate construction, man
1966TEX on
Voted conservative last election (hated Trudeau). Would prob vote liberal this election, however if my MP crossed the floor, I could never vote for that person again, regardless of the party they run for. Floor crossing is a slap in the face to voters. Sit as an independent and vote with your heart if you can’t be a part of the party you ran under during the election.
UnderWatered on
What I find extremely interesting is that the two front runners for the NDP leadership, both Lewis and McPherson have not addressed this issue of an NDP floor crosser on their channels.
You would expect them to do so.
russ_nightlife on
Pierre Poilievre happily sat in government with David Emerson, who crossed the floor to the CPC immediately after being elected as a Liberal.
I know he has no principles or integrity but it’s worth pointing it out when it’s so blatant, I feel.
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Well at least there weren’t any christmas parties involved this time
Next question is, is Idlout coming on the Norway trip? She mentioned arctic security as one of her reasons for crossing iirc
I can appreciate why Carney might want to to form a majority government with byelections and floor crossers as oppose to take the risk of another election, however looking at the polls right now I kind of wish he’d just pull the trigger and hopefully crush Poilievre once and for all.
I think both the Poilievre and Carney camps are being insufferable on this issue
For Poilievre’s camp: They’re 100% fine with floor-crossing, as is his party. The NDP for many years has proposed legislation to ban the process, and they’ve never supported it. He’s just mad people aren’t crossing to him
For Carney’s camp: they’re „um actually-ing“ a pretty troubling trend of disrespecting the will of the voters. I have a PhD in history, so I’m well aware of the ‚constitutional technicalities‘ wherein we only elect MPs, and the parties and PM are irrelevant
But that’s just not how the *vast* majority of voters think, feel, and act.
The actual results tell us that „we elect MPs, not Prime Ministers“ is largely BS.
Look at the *hundreds* of Liberal MPs set to lose their seat until Carney
If the election was really about the local candidate, a new guy running in Nepean and another retiring in Papineau would mean nothing.
A red wave happened in large part because of Carney and Trump, neither of whom are local MPs
***
So Poilievre needs to sign onto a pledge to ban floor crossing if he wants to whine about it, and the Liberals need to realize that technicalities don’t invalidate the spirit of how the people exercise their mandate.
My prediction is that there will still be at least one more Conservative floor crosser, and that Carney will end up with his majority soon.
But I expect he’ll call the Conservative bluff complaining about an unelected majority and call an election on the grounds that Canadians would prefer to vote in a majority.
Well, it might hand a majority but at the same time it builds risk in the other direction. MPs contemplating crossing the floor have power now in terms of what the Liberals will offer…. once they have the majority it gives a floor crosser the power to take that away.
It’s a shame poilievre voted against the proposed change to floor crossings back when the NDP brought it forward, since he seems so bothered by them now🤷♀️
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I hate headline writers. Poilievre whining is briefly mentioned at the end of the article, while most of it focuses on why Idlout decided to make the switch.
I overheard a coworkers podcast today (said coworker has F TRUDEAU stickers and has his stuff wrapped in American flag…) saying “CROOKED CARNEY is STEALING the majority”
I fucking hate construction, man
Voted conservative last election (hated Trudeau). Would prob vote liberal this election, however if my MP crossed the floor, I could never vote for that person again, regardless of the party they run for. Floor crossing is a slap in the face to voters. Sit as an independent and vote with your heart if you can’t be a part of the party you ran under during the election.
What I find extremely interesting is that the two front runners for the NDP leadership, both Lewis and McPherson have not addressed this issue of an NDP floor crosser on their channels.
You would expect them to do so.
Pierre Poilievre happily sat in government with David Emerson, who crossed the floor to the CPC immediately after being elected as a Liberal.
I know he has no principles or integrity but it’s worth pointing it out when it’s so blatant, I feel.