>Nunavut NDP MP Lori Idlout has crossed the floor to join the Liberals, according to NDP interim leader Don Davies.
>The NDP released a statement late Tuesday night saying they were “very disappointed” with Idlout’s decision to join the Liberal caucus.
>The Liberals are now just two seats shy of a majority.
EastCoastEnthusiast on
How many seats does that leave the NDP?
Somecommentator8008 on
Just need to win the two Toronto by elections now
Initial_Implement934 on
The last person to cross the floor, please turn off the lights behind you
Amtoj on
All eyes were on the Conservatives and the Bloc, nobody expected anyone from the NDP before they found their new leader. Carney really does have the Mandate of Heaven.
mwyvr on
Wow.
Also, I’m not entirely surprised, for a couple of reasons.
First, Nunavut is less about politics and more about consensus. For example, there are no political parties in the legislative assembly.
Second, given the likely winner of the NDP leadership race, Lori Idlout won’t be the only NDP member (MP in this case) reconsidering their support of the party. (Edit, I’m not saying Idlout left for that reason, but believe other members, if not MPs, may decide to move their votes elsewhere.)
Appropriate-Word7156 on
Weird, I thought this was only happening because of Pierre’s toxic leadership according to people in here. Nice precedent Carney is setting. People didn’t vote for this
Sarcastic__ on
Slightly surprised this one took so long to cross. The margin of victory was miniscule if I recall correctly.
Mr_Canada1867 on
Liberal Majority Govt secured on April 13th
fredleung412612 on
With easy victories all but guaranteed in University—Rosedale and Scarborough Southwest, the Liberal Party is basically a month away from securing a majority of 172. Winning the much tougher contest in Terrebonne is no longer necessary. However, a 1 seat majority isn’t exactly smooth sailing since there will be more byelections to come from potential Liberal resignations like Nate Erskine-Smith.
That being said, Nunavut is probably feeling a bit vulnerable up there. Very geopolitically (see Greenland) and geographically exposed and the current NDP front runner wants to cut defence spending.
EDIT: I didn’t mean the „..changed her mind!“ as a gotcha, but rather simply that she changed her mind. I know it was from 2 months ago.
rTpure on
Carney collecting MPs like Pokemon
throwawaytopost724 on
Boooo!
Revan462222 on
Genuinely curious if the next one will be an NDP or a Conservative at this point. Honestly, would be almost funny though if a Liberal decides to cross just for kicks.
Iamthequicker on
Wow, so the NDP has 6 seats now. Talk about a collapse.
etoyoc_yrgnuh on
What a joke Canadian politics are. Ugh.
keiths31 on
Nice to know that a majority can be achieved behind closed doors.
Regardless if it is all part of the parliamentary system or not, it isn’t right. If this was the CPC doing this to obtain a majority, this sub would be losing its collective mind. And you all know that.
pounces on
Canada is scarily close to becoming a 2 party system.
CreamyIvy on
The liberals come back from the dead is impressive.
Joe_Go_Ebbels on
Will she be joining Carney on his trip to Norway?
RegisteredAnonUser on
NDP is in such a precarious position it doesn’t surprise me someone thought to make the jump. Based on the polls NDP will need multiple elections to rebuild themselves and even in that scenario they’re largely just getting concessions out of propping up the LPC.
mXonKz on
has carney been better at convincing MPs to cross the floor than previous PMs? seems like it’s been every couple of months
MommersHeart on
Wowwwww…
In her defense the NDP leadership campaign is not doing them any favours.
ack4 on
ngl, watching the NDP leader’s debate, i don’t blame her
ProudVancouverLL on
Geeez I wonder where people’s skepticism of democracy is coming from. Must be Tik Tok and bots.
MachadoEsq on
Can’t wait to see the comments about Don Davies leadership.
zylvor on
Down to six…
tdfast on
I don’t think Carney is as worried about the majority as everyone seems to think. The minority is working well for him. He’s a heavy favourite in the election so nobody wants for five one and the other parties have to play ball. If he gets the majority they just stray screaming about everything again. I think he’s enjoying this box the other parties are in.
Oop-Juice on
There needs to be discussion on how easy it is to floor-cross to opposing parties without citizen input. There’s a reason the NDP literally tried to enact legislation against it. (And also doesn’t allow floor crossers to enter their party out of principle) People will use the argument „You’re voting for the person, not the party!“ ignoring the fact that 99% of Canadians don’t give a damn about the person. The fact that we have „safe seats“ for parties, ABC voting strategies, and the entire way Alberta is the way it is is due to this. If an MP is de facto representing their party, and people vote for them because of that, then switching to another party is not what the citizens voted for and should be regulated
grittygrits9 on
Two liberal strongholds coming up for a by election , they have a majority in the bag now
esveda on
What is the going rate for a liberal floor crosser these days?
TheOtherUprising on
They basically have a majority now. They will win the two Toronto by-elections, the Montreal area one doesn’t even matter now.
The other thing this does is all but eliminate the chance of a snap election which might be a blessing in disguise for the other parties.
ukr_anon on
I feel like this is contributing to the erosion of democracy. Why would my vote matter if the ruling party will just poach my MP with nice positions despite me voting on policy positions not aligned with said party?
I know there’s the whole idea that “you vote for your representative, not your party” but in the modern era that’s just not true, MP’s vote with their party 95+% of the time, we’re voting based on party policy.
Moonblood on
Yay😭 here’s to another 10 fucking years of liberals. Not that the conservatives would be any better but god dam I hate the political leadership these days.
Azezik on
Guess the negotiations went through
drgr33nthmb on
14 years of Liberals problems can only be solved by a liberal majority lmfao. This countries electorate is high on new gen hallucinogenic crack
djf9966 on
Trudeau had a majority, not sure we want this.
1baby2cats on
Which trade mission will she be accompanying?
thereaperofmarz on
Wow, no matter what party you support, it’s disturbing to see that constituent votes are essentially meaningless. Canada voted for a Liberal minority, not a majority through backroom deals.
MarkDavid04 on
We’re watching the end of Canadian Democracy
varsil on
This „winning elections through backroom deals“ thing undermines our democracy, which we do at our own peril.
And spare me the „you vote for the MP“ thing. We whip every important vote, so your MP is just a string the party pulls.
The result of this will be that every Liberal scandal gets quashed without inquiry, and they’ll be able to push through all the internet surveillance and censorship they’ve been seeking.
This is ugly business.
Wolfman-101 on
Who’s ready for a buttload of liberal increased funding to Nunavut?
1baby2cats on
So with a majority he should be able to push through all his policies now. No more excuses, can’t blame the other parties from blocking him. Let’s see things get done.
jz2- on
„democracy“
SoSweetSophie on
That has to stop. It’s anti democratic.
Kippingthroughlife on
If an MP wants to cross the floor it should automatically trigger a by election, I know people say „you don’t vote for the party you vote for the MP“ but that’s bullshit
Savings_Macaroon7892 on
Anytime an MP wants to cross the floor there should be a by-election. End of discussion.
CanadianRunner03 on
If it was was liberals crossing to the cpc most people would be loosing there minds here and would be calling for Change
Fucking behind closed doors “democracy”
WealthEconomy on
So what did he offer this one? Hope Carney actually calls an election this spring and she losses to the NDP candidate.
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>Nunavut NDP MP Lori Idlout has crossed the floor to join the Liberals, according to NDP interim leader Don Davies.
>The NDP released a statement late Tuesday night saying they were “very disappointed” with Idlout’s decision to join the Liberal caucus.
>The Liberals are now just two seats shy of a majority.
How many seats does that leave the NDP?
Just need to win the two Toronto by elections now
The last person to cross the floor, please turn off the lights behind you
All eyes were on the Conservatives and the Bloc, nobody expected anyone from the NDP before they found their new leader. Carney really does have the Mandate of Heaven.
Wow.
Also, I’m not entirely surprised, for a couple of reasons.
First, Nunavut is less about politics and more about consensus. For example, there are no political parties in the legislative assembly.
Second, given the likely winner of the NDP leadership race, Lori Idlout won’t be the only NDP member (MP in this case) reconsidering their support of the party. (Edit, I’m not saying Idlout left for that reason, but believe other members, if not MPs, may decide to move their votes elsewhere.)
Weird, I thought this was only happening because of Pierre’s toxic leadership according to people in here. Nice precedent Carney is setting. People didn’t vote for this
Slightly surprised this one took so long to cross. The margin of victory was miniscule if I recall correctly.
Liberal Majority Govt secured on April 13th
With easy victories all but guaranteed in University—Rosedale and Scarborough Southwest, the Liberal Party is basically a month away from securing a majority of 172. Winning the much tougher contest in Terrebonne is no longer necessary. However, a 1 seat majority isn’t exactly smooth sailing since there will be more byelections to come from potential Liberal resignations like Nate Erskine-Smith.
I guess she changed her mind! [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/nunavut-mp-says-she-wont-cross-the-floor-to-join-liberals-at-this-point-9.7035383](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/nunavut-mp-says-she-wont-cross-the-floor-to-join-liberals-at-this-point-9.7035383)
That being said, Nunavut is probably feeling a bit vulnerable up there. Very geopolitically (see Greenland) and geographically exposed and the current NDP front runner wants to cut defence spending.
EDIT: I didn’t mean the „..changed her mind!“ as a gotcha, but rather simply that she changed her mind. I know it was from 2 months ago.
Carney collecting MPs like Pokemon
Boooo!
Genuinely curious if the next one will be an NDP or a Conservative at this point. Honestly, would be almost funny though if a Liberal decides to cross just for kicks.
Wow, so the NDP has 6 seats now. Talk about a collapse.
What a joke Canadian politics are. Ugh.
Nice to know that a majority can be achieved behind closed doors.
Regardless if it is all part of the parliamentary system or not, it isn’t right. If this was the CPC doing this to obtain a majority, this sub would be losing its collective mind. And you all know that.
Canada is scarily close to becoming a 2 party system.
The liberals come back from the dead is impressive.
Will she be joining Carney on his trip to Norway?
NDP is in such a precarious position it doesn’t surprise me someone thought to make the jump. Based on the polls NDP will need multiple elections to rebuild themselves and even in that scenario they’re largely just getting concessions out of propping up the LPC.
has carney been better at convincing MPs to cross the floor than previous PMs? seems like it’s been every couple of months
Wowwwww…
In her defense the NDP leadership campaign is not doing them any favours.
ngl, watching the NDP leader’s debate, i don’t blame her
Geeez I wonder where people’s skepticism of democracy is coming from. Must be Tik Tok and bots.
Can’t wait to see the comments about Don Davies leadership.
Down to six…
I don’t think Carney is as worried about the majority as everyone seems to think. The minority is working well for him. He’s a heavy favourite in the election so nobody wants for five one and the other parties have to play ball. If he gets the majority they just stray screaming about everything again. I think he’s enjoying this box the other parties are in.
There needs to be discussion on how easy it is to floor-cross to opposing parties without citizen input. There’s a reason the NDP literally tried to enact legislation against it. (And also doesn’t allow floor crossers to enter their party out of principle) People will use the argument „You’re voting for the person, not the party!“ ignoring the fact that 99% of Canadians don’t give a damn about the person. The fact that we have „safe seats“ for parties, ABC voting strategies, and the entire way Alberta is the way it is is due to this. If an MP is de facto representing their party, and people vote for them because of that, then switching to another party is not what the citizens voted for and should be regulated
Two liberal strongholds coming up for a by election , they have a majority in the bag now
What is the going rate for a liberal floor crosser these days?
They basically have a majority now. They will win the two Toronto by-elections, the Montreal area one doesn’t even matter now.
The other thing this does is all but eliminate the chance of a snap election which might be a blessing in disguise for the other parties.
I feel like this is contributing to the erosion of democracy. Why would my vote matter if the ruling party will just poach my MP with nice positions despite me voting on policy positions not aligned with said party?
I know there’s the whole idea that “you vote for your representative, not your party” but in the modern era that’s just not true, MP’s vote with their party 95+% of the time, we’re voting based on party policy.
Yay😭 here’s to another 10 fucking years of liberals. Not that the conservatives would be any better but god dam I hate the political leadership these days.
Guess the negotiations went through
14 years of Liberals problems can only be solved by a liberal majority lmfao. This countries electorate is high on new gen hallucinogenic crack
Trudeau had a majority, not sure we want this.
Which trade mission will she be accompanying?
Wow, no matter what party you support, it’s disturbing to see that constituent votes are essentially meaningless. Canada voted for a Liberal minority, not a majority through backroom deals.
We’re watching the end of Canadian Democracy
This „winning elections through backroom deals“ thing undermines our democracy, which we do at our own peril.
And spare me the „you vote for the MP“ thing. We whip every important vote, so your MP is just a string the party pulls.
The result of this will be that every Liberal scandal gets quashed without inquiry, and they’ll be able to push through all the internet surveillance and censorship they’ve been seeking.
This is ugly business.
Who’s ready for a buttload of liberal increased funding to Nunavut?
So with a majority he should be able to push through all his policies now. No more excuses, can’t blame the other parties from blocking him. Let’s see things get done.
„democracy“
That has to stop. It’s anti democratic.
If an MP wants to cross the floor it should automatically trigger a by election, I know people say „you don’t vote for the party you vote for the MP“ but that’s bullshit
Anytime an MP wants to cross the floor there should be a by-election. End of discussion.
If it was was liberals crossing to the cpc most people would be loosing there minds here and would be calling for Change
Fucking behind closed doors “democracy”
So what did he offer this one? Hope Carney actually calls an election this spring and she losses to the NDP candidate.