Ein türkischer Freund von mir sagte mir, dass es nicht vollständig den Islam symbolisiert, konnte mir aber nicht sagen, was es sonst noch symbolisiert, und jetzt bin ich neugierig, haha
Was symbolisieren Stern und Halbmond in der türkischen Flagge?
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„Reflection of the sky from a pool of blood, spilled from the fallen.“
A [reference](https://i.redd.it/meaning-of-each-flag-correct-me-in-the-comments-if-you-see-v0-l4veavz7qvz91.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=0b0495de8fe647210b012507ef46479aec42b2ea)
One of the most beautiful flag in the whole world
Kavga başlıyor, patlamış mısırımı almaya gidiyorum.
Cresent and star are never been islamic symbole.
If so many muslim country have them in the first place, it because they got inspirated by Ottoman flag which was the last califat of muslim.
This also expain why Saudi Arabie, Palestine, Syria…country of the ME (origine of islam) don’t have them, because the arabs rebellions against the Ottoman push them to create new flag without reference to the Ottoman.
Turks used it before they adopted islam so probably represents Tengrism. Sky,moon & sun are really important religious symbols in Tengrism.
Religious symbolism is prohibit in islam
The crescent was a symbol that existed as far back as the Köktürk empire and was present in a lot of seljuk/Ottoman symbology, especially the tuğs. The star was added later inspired from the byzantine empires symbology.
The explanation for the shapes and colorings for the flag was that after wars the blood of the soldiers reflected the moonlight and thus gave the main inspiration for the flag, aside from turkic moon-god („Ay/Ai dede or Ay Ata“) symbology and byzantine history.
Modern muslim scholars agree that the crescent isnt the symbol of islam and if anything the symbol of islam would be this: الله
The crescent has a long history in Turkic culture. The star however didnt serve much of a purpose other than basic navigation. İts thought that stars had some symbological meaning for Turks but we’ve only found hard evidence of moon-symbology. So its likely that we got the star symbology more from the byzantine/european nations than the Turkic cultire.
It is a symbol of islam because the Ottoman empire used it, not the other way around.
Check the banner of byzantium
Our tengrism roots
Moon is: Ay ata
Star (sirius): Holy place where we go after we die
Red is holy bloodline of our Khans
It’s folklore roots first used by part of our navy in west mediterranean sea. Slowly used by ottoman empire. Since our enemies see Turks as islamist danger in western eyes it started to symbolise islam. Later islamists started to claim it. Many muslim contries adopted it without knowing it’s a pagan symbol.
We’ve always been taught that the flag represents the reflection of the moon and stars in the blood of fallen soldiers on the battlefield. It’s a tribute to national sacrifice, not a religious or islamic symbol.
The simplest answer for its origin is the Ottoman Empire, and while the crescent has come to symbolize the Islamic world due to the Ottoman Empire, its initial origins are contested.
In current context, with reframing done by Turkey, the “pool of blood and sky as reflected from it” is the symbolic meaning.
Some people say the crescent has Turkic origins, others say it was present in the Arabian peninsula due to their pre-islamic pantheon. While I personally believe all of that is true, I think the adoption of the crescent by the Ottomans is actually traceable back to the Byzantine Empire.
The city that is now Istanbul used to have the crescent star as its symbol. When you look at the timeline of Ottoman flags and war-banners, the crescent’s wide adoption only starts after the conquest of Constantinople. Add to that the fact that there were many previous Ottoman banners that mimicked the Byzantine one’s 4 section design, it becomes clear that the conquest of Istanbul was the reason for the adoption of the flag.
However, in a more poetic sense, you could gather all of those roots to come to a greater conclusion. Throughout their path in history, the culture that would end up settling Turkey encountered the crescent star. First among their nomadic Turkic communities, their ancestral roots. Then among Arabs who gave them their religion. And finally in the lands they ended up settling, within their most prized city.
The Crescent Moon and Star has roots in all 3 major aspects of Turkish culture. The Turkic roots, the Islamic religion, and the Anatolian peninsula. It is the most fitting symbol for Turkey.
Wikipedia exists for questions like this.
We learn in school that our flag is the sky reflected at night upon the blood of our fallen soldiers. It’s theorised that the flag was founded after the varna crusade.
Islam…let’s not bullshit.
Red flag with star and crescent was the Ottoman flag right before its collapse but it was a non-standardized version of it which star and crescent at any size stitched over a red cloth would pass as national flag. During Turkish War of Independence people did rally behind that flag as a symbol. Because of that the flag didn’t change despite the republic being laic by constitution, they gave it standard measurements instead.
Some say the moon and star represent Islam, or that red symbolizes the blood of soldiers, but these are fabrications. Most likely, the crescent moon and star symbol passed to the Ottomans from Byzantium after the conquest of Istanbul. It gradually became a symbol of the state and was finally officially adopted as the flag in the 1830s.
İt’s symbol of God’s light to show true path, showing God give us strength even in the darkest and bloodiest nights
İt’s symbol of GökTengri and we just carry that all the way today
The reason of this symbol associated with Islam is again us because guess who was head of Islam for like last 8 centuries or so? Yeah it’s us.
Star is the universal symbol for freedom and crescent symbolizes the islam / muslim people of this country
The only reason is Byzantium.
Like others said variations of crescent and star were used by Ottomans. After Ottomans conquered Arabian lands and kinda declared themselves „sword of islam“ and arguably being the strongest muslim nation for a long time, it got associated with islam.
In school we were thought that the red comes from the blood of martyrs on the ground, and a star and the crescent aligned in the reflection of it but I don’t know the validity of that.
For better context, Turks have always been nomadic astronomers. We found our way around the earth by following starts in the night sky only, for thousands of years. The star and the crescent have never been symbols of any religious doctrine except for tengrism, like some others pointed out. But that is more related to Turkic culture than religious beliefs; it hasn’t been for a long time anyway. Islam on the other hand is a very recent concept in the history of Turks. Everyone will interpret it as it fits their agenda, you can take your pick, but it all goes to the roots, whichever angle you have in your mind…
Literally, a moon and a star. The red background is the blood of the fallen soldiers, the moon and star is reflecting off the blood.
This could have been googled 🙄
The crescent moon and star is an ancient motif. Byzantium (long before the Roman Empire) used the symbol to honor the goddess Hecate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_and_crescent