I agree we have a respond to protect the airspace of the island as a whole.
Reminder Cyprus has massive Russian influence including political. Obviously they’ll do their best to push out British influence. They buy up tons of property near the bases. It’s a thoroughly compromised place politically. As it’s odd they’re bothered about these bases that take up 3% of the island which were negotiated by treaty in 1960 and not the Turkish occupation from 1974 that takes over 40%?
This all began because of trump starting a war without warning NATO, it’s having all this knock on effects.
tree_boom on
I’ll be quite surprised if this is something that the British government is ever going to be interested in really. There’s just no reason we would want to give up that territory.
gadarnol on
I can’t see Israel or the US ever allowing it. Yes, you read that right.
Edit: Let’s be clear. The UK will not want to give up what it regards as sovereign territory. Even if it did it would not be let. The US needs bases to project t into the Eastern med to protect Israel. It’s just a fact of geopolitical life.
mattiasso on
Those bases are their best security guarantee against Turkey. They won’t talk.
Acrobatic-Rip-4362 on
Cyprus is massively influenced by Russia, I don’t think it’s clever to cave in on these bases. Let’s hope the Chagos don’t set a precedent. (Though I don’t know what it going on with them now)
Actual_Cat4779 on
As I understand it, Cyprus was forced to accept British sovereign base areas as a condition for its independence.
Cyprus was under duress with little alternative but to accept.
Aggressive-Kitchen18 on
Since the drone diddnt come from Iran, where did it come from? Israel?
Jacabusmagnus on
Unlike other bases they are sovereign British territory so that instantly makes it more difficult when compared to negotiation over bases on your own territory. Second they are a key strategic asset for operations in the middle East and in support of operations in the far East. Cyprus is not a NATO member so there is no off set of loss of bases while still being able to use NATO members facilities member so this isn’t going to happen. Maybe pre 2022 or 2014 but this is simply not in Europe’s wider security interests now.
Unless Zack Palnski becomes PM but he would probably give them to Russia before he gives them to Cyprus.
CriticismRight9247 on
Good! Let them go. The UK cannot afford to play world power anymore. Spend the money at home!
drw__drw on
Fully on Cyprus’s side here. These aren’t just run of the mill military bases but full on colonies that the UK carved out as a condition of independence, with no democratic representation in the UK Parliament therefore no say in what regional wars the UK gets involved in despite being on the frontlines.
contre-torpilleur on
Alright, in 10-15 years then.
ganbaro on
UK got control over Cyprus from the Ottomans which took it from Venice. The BOT was never owned by the current republic or any direct precessor that was based on Cyprus or ruled by Cypriots.
They have zero claim to the BOT beyond a reunification narrative constructed posterior to the foundation of the Republic of Cyprus.
pizzainmyshoe on
Do they want billions too
veleso91 on
Just kick them the fuck out, what’s there to discuss?
acur1231 on
They’ve lost their marbles, and they’ve got a better chance of getting those back.
sirnoggin on
Russian backhander makes guy talk against Britain. meh.
Imakemyownnamereddit on
Not going to happen.
Another surrender deal would finish Starmer off.
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lol good luck
I agree we have a respond to protect the airspace of the island as a whole.
Reminder Cyprus has massive Russian influence including political. Obviously they’ll do their best to push out British influence. They buy up tons of property near the bases. It’s a thoroughly compromised place politically. As it’s odd they’re bothered about these bases that take up 3% of the island which were negotiated by treaty in 1960 and not the Turkish occupation from 1974 that takes over 40%?
This all began because of trump starting a war without warning NATO, it’s having all this knock on effects.
I’ll be quite surprised if this is something that the British government is ever going to be interested in really. There’s just no reason we would want to give up that territory.
I can’t see Israel or the US ever allowing it. Yes, you read that right.
Edit: Let’s be clear. The UK will not want to give up what it regards as sovereign territory. Even if it did it would not be let. The US needs bases to project t into the Eastern med to protect Israel. It’s just a fact of geopolitical life.
Those bases are their best security guarantee against Turkey. They won’t talk.
Cyprus is massively influenced by Russia, I don’t think it’s clever to cave in on these bases. Let’s hope the Chagos don’t set a precedent. (Though I don’t know what it going on with them now)
As I understand it, Cyprus was forced to accept British sovereign base areas as a condition for its independence.
Cyprus was under duress with little alternative but to accept.
Since the drone diddnt come from Iran, where did it come from? Israel?
Unlike other bases they are sovereign British territory so that instantly makes it more difficult when compared to negotiation over bases on your own territory. Second they are a key strategic asset for operations in the middle East and in support of operations in the far East. Cyprus is not a NATO member so there is no off set of loss of bases while still being able to use NATO members facilities member so this isn’t going to happen. Maybe pre 2022 or 2014 but this is simply not in Europe’s wider security interests now.
Unless Zack Palnski becomes PM but he would probably give them to Russia before he gives them to Cyprus.
Good! Let them go. The UK cannot afford to play world power anymore. Spend the money at home!
Fully on Cyprus’s side here. These aren’t just run of the mill military bases but full on colonies that the UK carved out as a condition of independence, with no democratic representation in the UK Parliament therefore no say in what regional wars the UK gets involved in despite being on the frontlines.
Alright, in 10-15 years then.
UK got control over Cyprus from the Ottomans which took it from Venice. The BOT was never owned by the current republic or any direct precessor that was based on Cyprus or ruled by Cypriots.
They have zero claim to the BOT beyond a reunification narrative constructed posterior to the foundation of the Republic of Cyprus.
Do they want billions too
Just kick them the fuck out, what’s there to discuss?
They’ve lost their marbles, and they’ve got a better chance of getting those back.
Russian backhander makes guy talk against Britain. meh.
Not going to happen.
Another surrender deal would finish Starmer off.