With little or no clarity about who will run Iran after the conflict ends, Deputy Prime Minister David Lammy told Sky News: “The challenge has always been that whilst Ali Khamenei may have gone, there are other who are pretty hardline or could be worse.”
He continued, “In the end this will be for the Iranian people themselves when this intense period is over unless there is any suggestion of putting boots on the ground and I haven’t heard that at this stage.”
He later told BBC Radio: “Clearly regime change I don’t think has been succeeded from the air anywhere in the world.”
GringottsWizardBank on
What a disaster. Regime change in a country of 93 million people bigger than the size of Texas will not go well. Particularly when we are all in this echo chamber of thinking everyone outside of IRGC hardliners wants regime change. It’s particularly ironic because residents of urban areas are more likely to be pro regime change and they are being bombed on a daily basis. I wonder if feelings on the ground have shifted somewhat.
povertybob on
I do hope Baron joins the military.
Brilliant_Version344 on
If you send boots on the ground you are sending them to certain death Iran geography makes it a nightmare for a invading force the zargos mountain would be hell Iran has been blessed with everything apart from good leadership and countries meddling in its affairs
Zlimness on
Boots on the ground and they don’t leave until the system has been entirely reformed and strong enough to stand on its own. It couldn’t be done in Afghanistan despite two decades of US presence. The jury is still out on Iraq since they’re still there.
I’m not an expert on Iran, so I welcome more insight. Is there any reason to believe it will be easier to change the regime in Iran to something more democratic and stable compared to other neighbours? I understand there are a lot of smart people in Iran who want change, but is there an organized opposition able to challenge the regime?
Long_Serpent on
How about Trump instead NOT pick the next leader?
bubbasass on
Well no shit. Boots on the ground was inevitable if regime change was the goal. You can’t force a regime change from the air.
That said, good luck, all those soldiers will die for nothing. There’s no objective or end goal in Iran. Last major war, Iraq lost a million soldiers trying to invade Iran and couldn’t do so successfully.
Trump is absolutely right, the military (especially under his command) is for suckers and losers.
Bigbird_Elephant on
A ground invasion of a country with 90 million people is insane
Mormegil71 on
Boots on the ground in a mountainous country in Asia… That sounds familiar.
meglobob on
Trumps already backing down on that, said its pointless sending US troops into Iran.
In fact he is already talking about Cuba.
They are just going to declare victory at some point, using some bs and leave the middle east in a mess.
This is why UK & Europe did exactly the right move and not get involved.
Goldfish have a longer attention span then Trump.
newmvbergen on
Great, Baron will be the first one the ground.
Gentle_Snail on
This is literally why the UK refused to join, as they said they’d only join if there was a clear end game plan and legal basis:
>”We all remember the mistakes of Iraq, and we have learned those lessons. Any U.K. actions must always have a lawful basis and a viable thought-through plan,” Starmer said, referencing the 2003 invasion of Iraq
matthalusky on
America needs a regime change.
anlaggy on
Look at a map of Iran. You see in a second why it is a very very very bad idea to invade with ground forces.
schu4KSU on
They’ll need boots on the ground to open the Strait of Hormuz a lot sooner than that.
Sargent_Duck85 on
The Iraqi people initially (for the most part) welcomed the US toppling Sadam Hussein. Then America fucked up the occupation.
I can only imagine how badly trump is gonna fuck this up.
Jaideco on
I’m pretty sure that this is the last thing on their minds…
Hegseth said “No stupid rules of engagement, no nation-building quagmire, no democracy-building exercise, no politically-correct wars. We fight to win,”
There is no reasoning or justification here. This isn’t about regime change. They just want to annihilate another country because then think that they can, because cruelty is all they know and because they think that it will scare their critics into submission. That’s the whole story.
keine_fragen on
Iran is a fortress thanks to geography
Getherer on
So orange turd will send troops to iran, there will be a total shit show and a lot of casualties and pedo decides to use a nuke? Sounds like something shitpants would do.
Captcha_Imagination on
They already picked a new leader. It’s his son. USA killed Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and he is being replaced by his son Mojtaba Khamenei, who is 56 and more dangerous and conservative than his dad.
His dad had actually declared a fatwa against nuclear weapons and WMD’s in 2003. Experts say his son thinks that his father’s strategy failed and is way more likely to pursue clandestine nuclear activities.
And this war was not started in 1979, as Trump says. It started in 1953’s Operation Ajax where the USA and UK overthrew their democratically elected PM, who was trying to nationalize oil profits. It’s been chaos since.
119Reign911 on
Let’s see Isreal put boots on the ground
Sislar on
Why is he picking the next leader. He wants to keep it a dictatorship?
BulldogMoose on
Which we will have to hold for 10 to 15 years, spending trillions of dollars, only for that group to be kicked out after we leave. They talk about Hollywood, but Jesus! Washington sure has run out of scripts.
oli_ramsay on
Shouldn’t the Iranians pick their leader?
Obvious_Cookie1812 on
No problem; give baron and Kushner some boots and send them in to Tehran.
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From the article:
With little or no clarity about who will run Iran after the conflict ends, Deputy Prime Minister David Lammy told Sky News: “The challenge has always been that whilst Ali Khamenei may have gone, there are other who are pretty hardline or could be worse.”
He continued, “In the end this will be for the Iranian people themselves when this intense period is over unless there is any suggestion of putting boots on the ground and I haven’t heard that at this stage.”
He later told BBC Radio: “Clearly regime change I don’t think has been succeeded from the air anywhere in the world.”
What a disaster. Regime change in a country of 93 million people bigger than the size of Texas will not go well. Particularly when we are all in this echo chamber of thinking everyone outside of IRGC hardliners wants regime change. It’s particularly ironic because residents of urban areas are more likely to be pro regime change and they are being bombed on a daily basis. I wonder if feelings on the ground have shifted somewhat.
I do hope Baron joins the military.
If you send boots on the ground you are sending them to certain death Iran geography makes it a nightmare for a invading force the zargos mountain would be hell Iran has been blessed with everything apart from good leadership and countries meddling in its affairs
Boots on the ground and they don’t leave until the system has been entirely reformed and strong enough to stand on its own. It couldn’t be done in Afghanistan despite two decades of US presence. The jury is still out on Iraq since they’re still there.
I’m not an expert on Iran, so I welcome more insight. Is there any reason to believe it will be easier to change the regime in Iran to something more democratic and stable compared to other neighbours? I understand there are a lot of smart people in Iran who want change, but is there an organized opposition able to challenge the regime?
How about Trump instead NOT pick the next leader?
Well no shit. Boots on the ground was inevitable if regime change was the goal. You can’t force a regime change from the air.
That said, good luck, all those soldiers will die for nothing. There’s no objective or end goal in Iran. Last major war, Iraq lost a million soldiers trying to invade Iran and couldn’t do so successfully.
Trump is absolutely right, the military (especially under his command) is for suckers and losers.
A ground invasion of a country with 90 million people is insane
Boots on the ground in a mountainous country in Asia… That sounds familiar.
Trumps already backing down on that, said its pointless sending US troops into Iran.
In fact he is already talking about Cuba.
They are just going to declare victory at some point, using some bs and leave the middle east in a mess.
This is why UK & Europe did exactly the right move and not get involved.
Goldfish have a longer attention span then Trump.
Great, Baron will be the first one the ground.
This is literally why the UK refused to join, as they said they’d only join if there was a clear end game plan and legal basis:
>”We all remember the mistakes of Iraq, and we have learned those lessons. Any U.K. actions must always have a lawful basis and a viable thought-through plan,” Starmer said, referencing the 2003 invasion of Iraq
America needs a regime change.
Look at a map of Iran. You see in a second why it is a very very very bad idea to invade with ground forces.
They’ll need boots on the ground to open the Strait of Hormuz a lot sooner than that.
The Iraqi people initially (for the most part) welcomed the US toppling Sadam Hussein. Then America fucked up the occupation.
I can only imagine how badly trump is gonna fuck this up.
I’m pretty sure that this is the last thing on their minds…
Hegseth said “No stupid rules of engagement, no nation-building quagmire, no democracy-building exercise, no politically-correct wars. We fight to win,”
There is no reasoning or justification here. This isn’t about regime change. They just want to annihilate another country because then think that they can, because cruelty is all they know and because they think that it will scare their critics into submission. That’s the whole story.
Iran is a fortress thanks to geography
So orange turd will send troops to iran, there will be a total shit show and a lot of casualties and pedo decides to use a nuke? Sounds like something shitpants would do.
They already picked a new leader. It’s his son. USA killed Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and he is being replaced by his son Mojtaba Khamenei, who is 56 and more dangerous and conservative than his dad.
His dad had actually declared a fatwa against nuclear weapons and WMD’s in 2003. Experts say his son thinks that his father’s strategy failed and is way more likely to pursue clandestine nuclear activities.
And this war was not started in 1979, as Trump says. It started in 1953’s Operation Ajax where the USA and UK overthrew their democratically elected PM, who was trying to nationalize oil profits. It’s been chaos since.
Let’s see Isreal put boots on the ground
Why is he picking the next leader. He wants to keep it a dictatorship?
Which we will have to hold for 10 to 15 years, spending trillions of dollars, only for that group to be kicked out after we leave. They talk about Hollywood, but Jesus! Washington sure has run out of scripts.
Shouldn’t the Iranians pick their leader?
No problem; give baron and Kushner some boots and send them in to Tehran.