That’s insane… Even going that much in double the time 18 mins would drastically change the EV roadtrip experience
ButtExplosion on
*BYD also claims to have addressed the well-known issue of lithium iron phosphate cells losing performance in cold temperatures. After the cells were stored for 24 hours at –30 degrees Celsius and therefore completely frozen, charging from 20 to 97 per cent reportedly took just twelve minutes. With this, BYD aims to counter one of the most common arguments against electric vehicles in China: limited usability in the country’s freezing northern regions.*
This is a game changer if true
Kinnins0n on
Flash charger with 1.5MW power are not exactly going to be legion.
Still, super excited to see leaps made in battery tech.
m3kw on
To decrease lineups busy stations will only allow charge to 50%
MrSnowflake on
What capacity battery are we talking? I have seen many of these articles, only to be let down by a 40kWh battery. This is byd, so a 80kWh battery is feasible. But still, I would like to know.
In effect the size might not matter in charging power, as more cells means more current, because the C values will be the same at higher currents, but smaller batteries have much more space for cooling or what not
Spiritual_Rule_6286 on
The battery engineering here is incredible, but the bottleneck has officially shifted from the car’s chemistry to the physical charging infrastructure.
To actually push a modern EV battery from 10–97% in just nine minutes, you need a station capable of sustaining a charge rate well over 400kW. Finding a public fast charger that even *claims* to output 350kW is hard enough, and finding one that actually delivers that peak power without thermal throttling (or just being out of order) is basically a lottery win right now.
That being said, the fact that BYD has managed the thermal dynamics well enough that this new Blade Battery can safely accept that much current without rapidly degrading the cells is a massive engineering victory. It just means the public grid has a ton of catching up to do.
LDdesign on
I love the idea of this, but how much power is needed to charge a battery that big, that fast? What sort of cost would that charge be versus the current supercharger costs? I think it is common to see about 44 cents per kw, would this be more like a buck or something?
bobjr94 on
That’s actually only about 2-3 times as fast as current lithium batteries. Our ioniq 5 has done 4% to 82% in 21 minutes, probably around 92% if gave I it 30 minutes.
Snippodappel on
97-100% reserved for regeneration?
So they expect us to fully charge at mountain tops?
Otherwise you must use some of the 97% to have some energy to regenerate from and the result from that cannot be more than 97%
Cybor_wak on
Have they announced any car that this will be used in?
One-Butterscotch4332 on
Yeah but Teasla will have a humanoid robot to be your chauffeur any day now ™. Our US auto industry is full of clowns
Netizen_Gypsy on
If that proves true and the batteries last 10 years or 120k miles before losing this with capacity and/or needing to be replaced I might consider an EV. The charging time has always been a deal breaker for me.
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That’s insane… Even going that much in double the time 18 mins would drastically change the EV roadtrip experience
*BYD also claims to have addressed the well-known issue of lithium iron phosphate cells losing performance in cold temperatures. After the cells were stored for 24 hours at –30 degrees Celsius and therefore completely frozen, charging from 20 to 97 per cent reportedly took just twelve minutes. With this, BYD aims to counter one of the most common arguments against electric vehicles in China: limited usability in the country’s freezing northern regions.*
This is a game changer if true
Flash charger with 1.5MW power are not exactly going to be legion.
Still, super excited to see leaps made in battery tech.
To decrease lineups busy stations will only allow charge to 50%
What capacity battery are we talking? I have seen many of these articles, only to be let down by a 40kWh battery. This is byd, so a 80kWh battery is feasible. But still, I would like to know.
In effect the size might not matter in charging power, as more cells means more current, because the C values will be the same at higher currents, but smaller batteries have much more space for cooling or what not
The battery engineering here is incredible, but the bottleneck has officially shifted from the car’s chemistry to the physical charging infrastructure.
To actually push a modern EV battery from 10–97% in just nine minutes, you need a station capable of sustaining a charge rate well over 400kW. Finding a public fast charger that even *claims* to output 350kW is hard enough, and finding one that actually delivers that peak power without thermal throttling (or just being out of order) is basically a lottery win right now.
That being said, the fact that BYD has managed the thermal dynamics well enough that this new Blade Battery can safely accept that much current without rapidly degrading the cells is a massive engineering victory. It just means the public grid has a ton of catching up to do.
I love the idea of this, but how much power is needed to charge a battery that big, that fast? What sort of cost would that charge be versus the current supercharger costs? I think it is common to see about 44 cents per kw, would this be more like a buck or something?
That’s actually only about 2-3 times as fast as current lithium batteries. Our ioniq 5 has done 4% to 82% in 21 minutes, probably around 92% if gave I it 30 minutes.
97-100% reserved for regeneration?
So they expect us to fully charge at mountain tops?
Otherwise you must use some of the 97% to have some energy to regenerate from and the result from that cannot be more than 97%
Have they announced any car that this will be used in?
Yeah but Teasla will have a humanoid robot to be your chauffeur any day now ™. Our US auto industry is full of clowns
If that proves true and the batteries last 10 years or 120k miles before losing this with capacity and/or needing to be replaced I might consider an EV. The charging time has always been a deal breaker for me.