„It turns out a Kuwaiti F/A-18 pilot launched three missiles against the U.S. aircraft, which cost $31.1 million each, sources familiar with initial incident reports told The Wall Street Journal.“
„Replacing them could be even more expensive, though, as the latest generation F-15EX Eagle II costs about $90 million per aircraft, according to Barron’s.“
„The incident took place soon after an Iranian drone penetrated Kuwait’s air defenses and hit a triple-wide trailer serving as a tactical-operations center at a commercial port, killing six U.S. troops, a source told the Journal.“
„The Kuwaiti forces were already on edge when their radar detected the American jets flying toward them, and they fired on them, the source said.“
„One of the ejected pilots was confronted by angry locals who apparently mistook him for an Iranian.“
„Images of a U.S. crew member lying in the back of a car have also been shared online, though it’s not clear if the images show the same person or a different one.“
„The friendly fire incident was “perplexing,” given than allied pilots are trained to follow procedures to prevent those types of potentially deadly mistakes, a former Air Force pilot told Air & Space Forces.“
TheyCensorUs on
That’s the same face he makes when he’s on the toilet.
twirlingmypubes on
That’s what happen when you don’t inform people of your plans.
Oh wait, there was no plan? Maybe start there
Crazy_Way6822 on
yet no money for education or healthcare. i will never forgive the people who put this psycho in office.
Melodic-Lingonberry7 on
Greatest military in the planet earth , but if you don’t have well trained people that military worth nothing . I could buy a 60k dollar guitar but it wouldn’t make me the best guitarist on planet earth
JeffSteinMusic on
More catnip tabloid propaganda about Trump being “Humiliated” from Daily Beast.
Interchangeable with stories from this outlet about Trump supposedly being “Cornered” and “On His Heels” and “Utterly Destroyed By Bombshell”
Seriously who still reads this? It is so unhealthy and delusional to buy into stuff like this a decade in.
Late-Dingo-8567 on
90m per frame and 30m per missile.
Is that why we need those woke rules of engagement?
periphery72271 on
This Department of War managed to take the legacy of a fighter that was undefeated in the air and destroy that, adding a nasty asterisk it was *friendly fire*, and it was a **goddamn older series Super Hornet**.
Not one, but 3 different airframes. There are F-16 pilots today that juked 6 air to ground missiles in one melee, and these pilots all failed to jink one missile each. And they were coming back, so they were empty of ordinance and had less fuel, so they were as maneuverable as they were going to get.
There are helmets being thrown in ready rooms all over the Air Force and I damn well guarantee every pilot not flying sorties can look forward to nasty drills, and high expectations the next time they do joint exercises.
Johnny5ohG17 on
I positive news, Kuwait’s first fighter ace is born 😂
SpottedDicknCustard on
Would those 3 blue on blue shoot downs count toward the 5 he needs to be an ace?
Holdmeback_again on
The Daily Beast uses “Trump Humiliated” as the first two words of like 80% of their articles. If you want to be taken seriously, don’t feed us cookie-cutter headlines. Trump sucks, but why is this news outlet playing into the criticism that it’s just lazy, biased Trump bashing? We are supposed to be better than that.
jayfeather31 on
Got to imagine there was an awkward debriefing for the Kuwaiti pilot who probably felt on top of the world with three air-to-air kills, only to be told that, „Okay, so I’ve got good news and bad news…“
Villag3Idiot on
So ugh, does this count for the pilot towards their Ace status?
Horton_Takes_A_Poo on
Another completely made up headline from the Daily Beast. Can we *please* blacklist them from the politics sub? There is nothing that indicates Trump was humiliated by this, if anything he’s excited because it allows some leverage over Kuwait.
lexbuck on
It’s amazing that we seem to only ever be at odds with the Middle East when a Republican is in office.
Anthemic_Fartnoises on
On the bright side, the Kuwaiti Air Force has it’s first Ace!
Holiday-Age6347 on
I don’t think there could be a clearer sign of the ineptitude of our military under its current leader. Not faulting the pilots, but there had to be a massive breakdown in leadership communication, planning, etc., for this to happen once, let alone three times.
Ok-disaster2022 on
Lol so a Kuwait pilot becomes the first ACE in a long time with an FA18 against the previously undefeated F15.
Costing US tax payers hundreds of millions potentially.
idlefritz on
Republicans over here playing Brewster’s Trillions with our tax dollars. Good to remember next time they throw a tantrum over student loan repayments or housing for homeless.
AdHopeful3801 on
>“The friendly fire incident was “perplexing,” given than allied pilots are trained to follow procedures to prevent those types of potentially deadly mistakes, a former Air Force pilot told Air & Space Forces.“
Remember when Hegseth said we were done with woke garbage like rules of engagement? Six American fliers did the Finding Out from his Fucking Around.
DomitiusAhenobarbus_ on
I really don’t see how this is humiliating for Trump and that’s saying a lot because I despise the man.
It was an F18 shooting down 3 f15s that were not evading or using counter measures. Friendly fire has happened in every conflict we’ve ever fought.
guttanzer on
It’s ALMOST as if we started this war with no coalition of allies and no rules, just a vague edict for maximum destruction. But that level of sheer incompetence would be inconceivable. It must be something else. /s
jet-setting on
Are these the first F15 aircraft to be downed in an armed conflict? Friendly fire sure, but still without looking it up I thought the F15 had a perfect track record in real engagements.
SpaceCadetNV on
Saw this yesterday and it stuck with me –
“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people…. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense.
Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.”
-Dwight Eisenhower 1953
KAM7 on
Humiliation implies capacity to feel shame and guilt, Trump has none and hasn’t been humiliated at all.
External_Mongoose_44 on
Education is the weapon that creates the downfall of the populists. In this age the populists are the GOP and they will remain anti education while they continue to rise above the ignorance of the masses. Education eradicates the ignorance of the masses and with the demise of this ignorance dies the dominance of the GOP.
Education is the key to the emancipation of the great people of the United States of America.
Possible_Gur4789 on
They call him the „Kuwaiti Red Baron“
rhaezorblue on
Can we stop posting articles that are behind a payroll? Thanks
Naive_Huckleberry996 on
Trump is a pedophile rapist.
Fidget11 on
Just two more kills and the Kuwaiti pilot is an ace.
Pretty pathetic though that three modern US f15E’s all went down to a single f18C, a model the USN retired because of its age and being “outdated”.
SpencerPrattsCrystal on
I’m getting sick of headlines that say he was humiliated. He’s not. He doesn’t have the capacity to feel shame.
aithendodge on
People should really stop using the word „humiliated“ in articles about Trump. He doesn’t have the capacity to be humiliated. He doesn’t have shame, and he’s never felt bad about anything he’s ever done in his life.
smellslikebigfootdic on
Sounds like those 3 pilots need to go to topgun and get whipped into shape by maverick
PositiveStress8888 on
Just proves this shit show had absolutely no planning. If everyone was briefed properly the pilot would have expected or known friendly aircraft were going to take off from a friendly airbase He was operating in, he would have had the proper radio frequencys to deconflict targets from enemy, or contact with AWCS to verify what he was about to shoot.
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„A single allied pilot flying an American-made fighter jet was responsible for downing three U.S. jets worth a combined $100 million.“
„Originally it was believed that surface-to-air missiles were responsible for Sunday’s [friendly fire incident](https://www.thedailybeast.com/friendly-fire-downs-3-us-fighter-jets-as-trumps-iran-calamity-unfolds/) in Kuwait, where Iran launched retaliatory strikes against U.S. allies after President Donald Trump launched his military campaign.“
„Three F-15E Strike Eagles flying in support of Operation Epic Fury were “mistakenly shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses,” forcing all six crew members to eject, [U.S. Central Command](https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-RELEASES/Press-Release-View/Article/4418568/three-us-f-15s-involved-in-friendly-fire-incident-in-kuwait-pilots-safe/) said in a statement.“
„It turns out a Kuwaiti F/A-18 pilot launched three missiles against the U.S. aircraft, which cost $31.1 million each, sources familiar with initial incident reports told The Wall Street Journal.“
„Replacing them could be even more expensive, though, as the latest generation F-15EX Eagle II costs about $90 million per aircraft, according to Barron’s.“
„The incident took place soon after an Iranian drone penetrated Kuwait’s air defenses and hit a triple-wide trailer serving as a tactical-operations center at a commercial port, killing six U.S. troops, a source told the Journal.“
„The Kuwaiti forces were already on edge when their radar detected the American jets flying toward them, and they fired on them, the source said.“
„One of the ejected pilots was confronted by angry locals who apparently mistook him for an Iranian.“
„Images of a U.S. crew member lying in the back of a car have also been shared online, though it’s not clear if the images show the same person or a different one.“
„The friendly fire incident was “perplexing,” given than allied pilots are trained to follow procedures to prevent those types of potentially deadly mistakes, a former Air Force pilot told Air & Space Forces.“
That’s the same face he makes when he’s on the toilet.
That’s what happen when you don’t inform people of your plans.
Oh wait, there was no plan? Maybe start there
yet no money for education or healthcare. i will never forgive the people who put this psycho in office.
Greatest military in the planet earth , but if you don’t have well trained people that military worth nothing . I could buy a 60k dollar guitar but it wouldn’t make me the best guitarist on planet earth
More catnip tabloid propaganda about Trump being “Humiliated” from Daily Beast.
Interchangeable with stories from this outlet about Trump supposedly being “Cornered” and “On His Heels” and “Utterly Destroyed By Bombshell”
Seriously who still reads this? It is so unhealthy and delusional to buy into stuff like this a decade in.
90m per frame and 30m per missile.
Is that why we need those woke rules of engagement?
This Department of War managed to take the legacy of a fighter that was undefeated in the air and destroy that, adding a nasty asterisk it was *friendly fire*, and it was a **goddamn older series Super Hornet**.
Not one, but 3 different airframes. There are F-16 pilots today that juked 6 air to ground missiles in one melee, and these pilots all failed to jink one missile each. And they were coming back, so they were empty of ordinance and had less fuel, so they were as maneuverable as they were going to get.
There are helmets being thrown in ready rooms all over the Air Force and I damn well guarantee every pilot not flying sorties can look forward to nasty drills, and high expectations the next time they do joint exercises.
I positive news, Kuwait’s first fighter ace is born 😂
Would those 3 blue on blue shoot downs count toward the 5 he needs to be an ace?
The Daily Beast uses “Trump Humiliated” as the first two words of like 80% of their articles. If you want to be taken seriously, don’t feed us cookie-cutter headlines. Trump sucks, but why is this news outlet playing into the criticism that it’s just lazy, biased Trump bashing? We are supposed to be better than that.
Got to imagine there was an awkward debriefing for the Kuwaiti pilot who probably felt on top of the world with three air-to-air kills, only to be told that, „Okay, so I’ve got good news and bad news…“
So ugh, does this count for the pilot towards their Ace status?
Another completely made up headline from the Daily Beast. Can we *please* blacklist them from the politics sub? There is nothing that indicates Trump was humiliated by this, if anything he’s excited because it allows some leverage over Kuwait.
It’s amazing that we seem to only ever be at odds with the Middle East when a Republican is in office.
On the bright side, the Kuwaiti Air Force has it’s first Ace!
I don’t think there could be a clearer sign of the ineptitude of our military under its current leader. Not faulting the pilots, but there had to be a massive breakdown in leadership communication, planning, etc., for this to happen once, let alone three times.
Lol so a Kuwait pilot becomes the first ACE in a long time with an FA18 against the previously undefeated F15.
Costing US tax payers hundreds of millions potentially.
Republicans over here playing Brewster’s Trillions with our tax dollars. Good to remember next time they throw a tantrum over student loan repayments or housing for homeless.
>“The friendly fire incident was “perplexing,” given than allied pilots are trained to follow procedures to prevent those types of potentially deadly mistakes, a former Air Force pilot told Air & Space Forces.“
Remember when Hegseth said we were done with woke garbage like rules of engagement? Six American fliers did the Finding Out from his Fucking Around.
I really don’t see how this is humiliating for Trump and that’s saying a lot because I despise the man.
It was an F18 shooting down 3 f15s that were not evading or using counter measures. Friendly fire has happened in every conflict we’ve ever fought.
It’s ALMOST as if we started this war with no coalition of allies and no rules, just a vague edict for maximum destruction. But that level of sheer incompetence would be inconceivable. It must be something else. /s
Are these the first F15 aircraft to be downed in an armed conflict? Friendly fire sure, but still without looking it up I thought the F15 had a perfect track record in real engagements.
Saw this yesterday and it stuck with me –
“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people…. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense.
Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.”
-Dwight Eisenhower 1953
Humiliation implies capacity to feel shame and guilt, Trump has none and hasn’t been humiliated at all.
Education is the weapon that creates the downfall of the populists. In this age the populists are the GOP and they will remain anti education while they continue to rise above the ignorance of the masses. Education eradicates the ignorance of the masses and with the demise of this ignorance dies the dominance of the GOP.
Education is the key to the emancipation of the great people of the United States of America.
They call him the „Kuwaiti Red Baron“
Can we stop posting articles that are behind a payroll? Thanks
Trump is a pedophile rapist.
Just two more kills and the Kuwaiti pilot is an ace.
Pretty pathetic though that three modern US f15E’s all went down to a single f18C, a model the USN retired because of its age and being “outdated”.
I’m getting sick of headlines that say he was humiliated. He’s not. He doesn’t have the capacity to feel shame.
People should really stop using the word „humiliated“ in articles about Trump. He doesn’t have the capacity to be humiliated. He doesn’t have shame, and he’s never felt bad about anything he’s ever done in his life.
Sounds like those 3 pilots need to go to topgun and get whipped into shape by maverick
Just proves this shit show had absolutely no planning. If everyone was briefed properly the pilot would have expected or known friendly aircraft were going to take off from a friendly airbase He was operating in, he would have had the proper radio frequencys to deconflict targets from enemy, or contact with AWCS to verify what he was about to shoot.