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    Demokraten reagieren auf geheimes Briefing zum Iran: „Es ist so viel schlimmer, als Sie dachten“

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    1. rollingstone on

      ***From Rolling Stone:***

      „In a social media video posted by [Sen. Elizabeth Warren](https://www.rollingstone.com/author/u-s-sen-elizabeth-warren/) (D-Mass.), the senator directly addressed those watching and said, ‚It is so much worse than you thought.‘ Warren added, ‚You are right to be worried. The Trump administration has no plan in Iran. This illegal war is based on lies, and it was launched without any imminent threat to our nation. [Donald Trump](https://www.rollingstone.com/t/donald-trump/) still hasn’t given a single clear reason for this war, and he seems to have no plan for how to end it either.'“

    2. B-Z_B-S on

      I already thought Trump did the whole war on a whim and didn’t think of any plan or idea for the war. If it’s worse than that, it’s really bad.

    3. Almanis46 on

      There will come soft rain and the smell of the ground,

      And swallows circling with their shimmering sound;

      And frogs in the pools singing at night,

      And wild plum trees in tremulous white;

      Robins will wear their feathery fire,

      Whistling their whims on a low fence-wire;

      And not one will know of the war, not one

      Will care at last when it is done.

      Not one would mind, neither bird nor tree,

      If mankind perished utterly;

      And Spring herself, when she woke at dawn

      Would scarcely know that we were gone.

    4. dbuck1964 on

      ‘If you thought 20 years of Afghanistan was bad, you ain’t seen nothing yet.’ The rest of us knew it the moment Trump asked the Iranians to rise up. There was no plan other than the oil deals from Venezuela and the bombing affecting Iranian leadership/exports. Needless to say it has backfired badly.

    5. MarvinFarquhar on

      This is what the 25th Amendment is for. He got distracted by curtains while announcing he started a war.

    6. throwawaypickle777 on

      IDK I think it’s pretty much the end of the modern era if not the industrial age.

    11. JamesKPolkEsq on

      Israel is dictating US Middle East policy, Trump is taking orders from Bibi

      Worse, he’s not even giving Trump reasoning why…

    13. ninjplus on

      Problem isn’t just Trump. You can thank the propaganda machine called fox news and the 70 million voted for this bullshit. And guess what, they’ll do it again.

    14. eschewthefat on

      Republican congress members need to be targeted and coerced into impeachment and removal so Trump can stand trial with every other person responsible for this. 

    15. spiritfiend on

      Gross incompetence is a logical extension of unregulated capitalism. When the same oligarchs own everything, they can make money by causing a problem and then selling solutions the problem that don’t actually work. Not fixing the problems they’ve made can be very profitable.

      The cost of gas is already much higher this week. People are making money.

    16. TSHRED56 on

      Trump has told Congress to be ready for sending in ground troops.

      The size and mountainous topagraphy of Iran tells us to expect multiple thousands of casualties for United States ground troops. And that’s just on the initial phase which by some estimates would require about 500,000 troops.

      This is not like Iraq and this is not like Afghanistan. Iran has about 1 million troops who are ready to fight and about 90 million people in the country.

      Iran has an estimated 610,000 active-duty personnel in its armed forces and approximately 350,000 reserve/trained personnel, bringing total available manpower to over 960,000, not including police or Basij forces.

      There’s no way the United States citizens are going to tolerate this.

      https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/how-geography-would-doom-any-invasion-iran-112111?hl=en-US

    17. Blochamolesauce on

      Then fucking impeach or 25th him. Every minute congress doesn’t act furthers the fact that they are standing to gain something from all of the inaction.

    18. Holden_Coalfield on

      the American government version of you won’t believe what happens next

    20. GentleBelligerent on

      How much worse is it really?

      That the Maduro-stle decapitation strike failed out of sheer ignorance of Iranian governance structure?

      That the Israelis got to Trump’s preferred successors before they could come to power? 

      That now we don’t know what to do anymore except bomb civilian infrastructure and hope something changes? 

      That a popular revolt failed to materialize and now we’re arming and providing air support to foreign separatist groups in western Iran to instigate civil war and rip the country to pieces? 

      That the night-long operation turned into a 4-5 week operation and now whiskey Pete is saying 8 weeks with ground troops becoming more and more likely? 

      That all of our military infrastructure in the region worth billions are in smoke and ruins?

      That we’ve had military service members and CIA operatives killed and there’s huge rumors that our deaths are numbering in the hundreds?

      That all of our gulf allies feel betrayed because the missile defense systems went towards protecting Israel and they didn’t work as well as they though?

      That the US is now pulling munitions and assets from Europe and the Pacific in an attempt to replenish their critically low munitions supply?

      That we’re starving our east Asian allies of oil and defense systems?

      That our European allies saw how badly the gulf states and east Asian allies are getting abandoned in favor of Israel and now the French are letting other European nations host their nukes and Poland wants nukes too? 

    21. jediporcupine on

      Worse than I thought?

      I don’t know about that. I have very low expectations at this point.

    22. NOCHILLDYL94 on

      W. Administration was at least some what competent in middle eastern forever wars. This is about to be so much worse since these are some of the most incompetent people you’ll ever see

    24. GibMcSpook on

      He’s got us talking about something other than the Epstein files. He’ll watch the world burn if it means we aren’t talking about his heinous crimes that he is so desperate to cover up.

    25. genescheezesthatpls on

      I’m a military spouse and let me tell you, the way I hate Trump and hesgeth is truly unmatched. If my husband dies because of their negligence…..

    26. Sober_Alcoholic_ on

      “So much worse than you think”

      No, you underestimate how many of us understand that Trump is a cornered rat. On top of that, he’s a malignant narcissist, sociopath, vengeful and on a sharp mental decline.

      We are in big, big fucking trouble.

      Epstein said it himself to Steve Bannon, essentially “Trump is a cornered rat and will take everyone down with him.”

      Trump is incapable of accountability, catastrophe is the only outcome barring his removal.

    28. chaosuniverses on

      The reason he started this war is to make us stop talking about other important things, like him and all his buddies in the Epstein files.

    29. adfuel on

      Trump has a perfect plan in place. Total chaos. It will get much worse until after the midterms.

    31. Reddit_2_2024 on

      Their alarm should pave the way for easy passage of War Powers Act vote in Congress this week and raise additional discussion for implementation of the 25th Amendment.

    33. Zraax on

      Ok we get it, it’s really bad. So what the hell are we supposed to do with this „new“ information?

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