~~Well, that is going to be a fun ride, go from the war on pirates with jail for offenders to the ‚good‘ ai dataset pirates~~
~~They are going to need to spin and spin and spin more to justify this flip~~
zorillaaa on
“The U.S. Supreme Court declined on Monday to take up the issue of whether art generated by artificial intelligence can be copyrighted under U.S. law, turning away a case involving a computer scientist from Missouri who was denied a copyright for a piece of visual art made by his AI system.
Plaintiff Stephen Thaler had appealed to the justices after lower courts upheld a U.S. Copyright Office decision that the AI-crafted visual art at issue in the case was ineligible for copyright protection because it did not have a human creator”
vips7L on
I wonder what this means for generated code.
Gastroid on
On one hand, this is a huge ambiguity caused by new technology that needs to be cleared up, since the problem will only get more prevelant as time goes on. At least there’s some case precedent now, not that precedent matters much these days.
On the other hand, this is something that Congress should be tackling with new legislation to overhaul copyright in the era of AI.
On my third hand caused by forever chemicals and microplastics in the water supply, I don’t trust the current Congress or Supreme Court at all right now to make an informed, consumer-friendly decision on AI, so screw it all.
Lethalmusic on
No human creator = no copyright.
Seems pretty clear cut, no wonder it was rejected.
Trying to put a copyright claim on the output of a plagiariasm machine is really fucking stupid, but we will see a lot more cases like this
GeekFurious on
To sum up: you still can’t steal other people’s work and claim it is yours.
00001000U on
So this is Thomas holding his hand out for a tip?
_WDFTKJ_ on
Quite ironic to even try to protect AI art considering that most AI models are trained on copyrighted materials without prior approval from the author.
Sweet_Concept2211 on
I gave a maglev train a push before it hit speeds of 300 mph.
Do I get an Olympic medal for being the world’s strongest man?
PajamaPants4Life on
Time to release the AI generated Conservative Supreme Court porn.
Or better yet, *court rulings*.
SonovaVondruke on
I think the bigger legal question is “can I copyright something that AI *helped* me to write/draw/whatever?” At what point does the human contribution cease to be transformative enough to protect?
novwhisky on
What’s to stop humans from creating AI art without any digital watermarks and claim a personal copyright?
AnonymousTimewaster on
If it can’t be copyrighted, then I think that is very good for the acting industry. Studios won’t want to risk not being able to copyright their shit.
Sorry-Original-9809 on
But he wrote the prompt
ulfric_stormcloak156 on
Damn, a win in relation to AI. That doesn’t happen often.
Just-Signature-3713 on
This sounds like a huge out: if AI kills someone who is culpable?
Derpykins666 on
In this context, good. People trying to copyright their AI amalgamations should never be allowed. They did none of the work, AI pulls from hand-crafted copyrighted material all the time. These guys are trying to take credit for work they didn’t even do.
onegunzo on
Skynet is not going to like this ruling.. not at all…
joeymonreddit on
I’m not advocating for AI because it’s currently an extremely overhyped tool, but if software and other work products can be copyrighted and owned, why not AI produced stuff? Surely “stealing code” or scripts or excel templates, etc. would fall into the same category. What’s the difference between copy/pasting vs writing a prompt to be considered to have a human creator? I understand the differences between the 2 scenarios, but how does the human creator part differ?
turb0_encapsulator on
okay, but what if the human then makes a small alteration to the AI-created work?
DrForester on
Captain Janeway on the wrong side of history, yet again.
punarob on
AI still free to kill people though as the US government is demanding
ThrowawayAl2018 on
When AI takes over the Supreme Court, then are those judgement (& hallucinations) from AI court valid? Where are the checks and balances that starts from „we the people…“ and not „we the AI…“
Hector_P_Catt on
I predicted this problem about 20 years ago, when I attended a talk on a guy using genetic algorithms to create new designs for antennae. The computer came up with a whole new way to build the antenna, that no human would likely have ever thought of. I thought about it in terms of patenting the design, who would be named as the inventor? The person who wrote the algorithm didn’t invent it, he maybe invented the algorithm, but the final design output had no direct human involvement in its creation. I knew then that this issue would become ever more important as time went on, and here we are.
More-Afternoon-1204 on
How is declining to take up an issue considered a decision? Am I missing something?
KenIbnKen on
Time to start poisoning AI with junk content .. oh wait
More-Afternoon-1204 on
Wait, what if a new law was made up because of this? What have we just set in motion?
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finally, a way around Disney copyright
Edit : i misread the title
~~Well, that is going to be a fun ride, go from the war on pirates with jail for offenders to the ‚good‘ ai dataset pirates~~
~~They are going to need to spin and spin and spin more to justify this flip~~
“The U.S. Supreme Court declined on Monday to take up the issue of whether art generated by artificial intelligence can be copyrighted under U.S. law, turning away a case involving a computer scientist from Missouri who was denied a copyright for a piece of visual art made by his AI system.
Plaintiff Stephen Thaler had appealed to the justices after lower courts upheld a U.S. Copyright Office decision that the AI-crafted visual art at issue in the case was ineligible for copyright protection because it did not have a human creator”
I wonder what this means for generated code.
On one hand, this is a huge ambiguity caused by new technology that needs to be cleared up, since the problem will only get more prevelant as time goes on. At least there’s some case precedent now, not that precedent matters much these days.
On the other hand, this is something that Congress should be tackling with new legislation to overhaul copyright in the era of AI.
On my third hand caused by forever chemicals and microplastics in the water supply, I don’t trust the current Congress or Supreme Court at all right now to make an informed, consumer-friendly decision on AI, so screw it all.
No human creator = no copyright.
Seems pretty clear cut, no wonder it was rejected.
Trying to put a copyright claim on the output of a plagiariasm machine is really fucking stupid, but we will see a lot more cases like this
To sum up: you still can’t steal other people’s work and claim it is yours.
So this is Thomas holding his hand out for a tip?
Quite ironic to even try to protect AI art considering that most AI models are trained on copyrighted materials without prior approval from the author.
I gave a maglev train a push before it hit speeds of 300 mph.
Do I get an Olympic medal for being the world’s strongest man?
Time to release the AI generated Conservative Supreme Court porn.
Or better yet, *court rulings*.
I think the bigger legal question is “can I copyright something that AI *helped* me to write/draw/whatever?” At what point does the human contribution cease to be transformative enough to protect?
What’s to stop humans from creating AI art without any digital watermarks and claim a personal copyright?
If it can’t be copyrighted, then I think that is very good for the acting industry. Studios won’t want to risk not being able to copyright their shit.
But he wrote the prompt
Damn, a win in relation to AI. That doesn’t happen often.
This sounds like a huge out: if AI kills someone who is culpable?
In this context, good. People trying to copyright their AI amalgamations should never be allowed. They did none of the work, AI pulls from hand-crafted copyrighted material all the time. These guys are trying to take credit for work they didn’t even do.
Skynet is not going to like this ruling.. not at all…
I’m not advocating for AI because it’s currently an extremely overhyped tool, but if software and other work products can be copyrighted and owned, why not AI produced stuff? Surely “stealing code” or scripts or excel templates, etc. would fall into the same category. What’s the difference between copy/pasting vs writing a prompt to be considered to have a human creator? I understand the differences between the 2 scenarios, but how does the human creator part differ?
okay, but what if the human then makes a small alteration to the AI-created work?
Captain Janeway on the wrong side of history, yet again.
AI still free to kill people though as the US government is demanding
When AI takes over the Supreme Court, then are those judgement (& hallucinations) from AI court valid? Where are the checks and balances that starts from „we the people…“ and not „we the AI…“
I predicted this problem about 20 years ago, when I attended a talk on a guy using genetic algorithms to create new designs for antennae. The computer came up with a whole new way to build the antenna, that no human would likely have ever thought of. I thought about it in terms of patenting the design, who would be named as the inventor? The person who wrote the algorithm didn’t invent it, he maybe invented the algorithm, but the final design output had no direct human involvement in its creation. I knew then that this issue would become ever more important as time went on, and here we are.
How is declining to take up an issue considered a decision? Am I missing something?
Time to start poisoning AI with junk content .. oh wait
Wait, what if a new law was made up because of this? What have we just set in motion?