The UK generally requires a clear legal basis for military action. That usually means:
– Self-defense under international law
– A UN Security Council resolution
– Or collective defense of an ally under specific treaty obligations
Unlike NATO Article 5 (which applies if a NATO member is attacked), there is no automatic treaty obligation requiring Britain to strike Iran.
Parliamentary politics also matter. The British government often seeks parliamentary backing for major military operations.
So it’s really not surprising all things considered. And quite frankly with how Trump has treated most of our allies over the last year, I don’t think any of them will be joining in Trump’s war either.
iwantback on
Can someone ELI5 to me how come the strike on the British base in Cyprus does not count as casus belli or invoke the NATO article 5? Isn’t that British soil?
I am not hoping for it, at all. I am confused and curious.
Edit: Thank you for the answers.
16ozbuddz on
War should be a last resort
Jackadullboy99 on
This war is ILLEGAL. Plain and simple… why is this not the top headline?
Sbrubbles on
Good for the British not wasting their tax dollars on american adventures in the middle east (this time, in any case)
Gentle_Snail on
>”We are not joining the US and Israeli offensive strikes. The basis for our decision is the collective self-defense of longstanding friends and allies and protecting British lives,“ he said.
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>.. However, Starmer drew a distinction between the start of the conflict and the current situation, adding: „It is clear that Iran’s outrageous response has become a threat to our people, our interests and our allies, and it cannot be ignored.“
Starmer was right to refuse to join in the war, and he was also right to then start helping with missile defence after Iran began attacking random countries.
wijm02 on
Good. This isn’t our war
VardaElentari86 on
Good. I dont think we should get involved unless it’s in some diplomatic way (not that diplomacy has any effect on Trump or Netanayu)
LungHeadZ on
I draw the conclusion that our involvement would only stand as a political act. Our help is not needed in the literal sense, that they cannot do it without us.
nu1stunna on
Such a coward. The Islamic Republic has overrun their country. History won’t look kindly at the UK. They’ve interfered in almost every country when they shouldn’t have, but the one time they should, they throw their hands in the air.
RedBreadRetention on
Good. I remember the Iraq war, Afghanistan and Libya. How better off are any of those places now?
Afk1792 on
Don’t wanna enrage the in-house terrorists.
MenuPerfect35 on
This is the right decision by the British. The fall out from getting into a full-blown war in Iran especially with talk about Turkey being next is going to be wild. Not to mention there’s millions and millions of muslims in Europe and no doubt there are quite a few sleeper cells and angry young men out there. Don’t let America drag Europe down with them
johnnycyberpunk on
The way Hegseth has been bragging I don’t understand why they need any other country’s help….
And the way Trump has been treating our traditional allies I can’t believe any of them would bother regardless.
ignite98 on
I really think they learnt from Afghanistan and Iraq
Different_Net_6752 on
What MAGA doesn’t understand is that the rest of the world isn’t ever going to trust the United Stars again.
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The UK generally requires a clear legal basis for military action. That usually means:
– Self-defense under international law
– A UN Security Council resolution
– Or collective defense of an ally under specific treaty obligations
Unlike NATO Article 5 (which applies if a NATO member is attacked), there is no automatic treaty obligation requiring Britain to strike Iran.
Parliamentary politics also matter. The British government often seeks parliamentary backing for major military operations.
So it’s really not surprising all things considered. And quite frankly with how Trump has treated most of our allies over the last year, I don’t think any of them will be joining in Trump’s war either.
Can someone ELI5 to me how come the strike on the British base in Cyprus does not count as casus belli or invoke the NATO article 5? Isn’t that British soil?
I am not hoping for it, at all. I am confused and curious.
Edit: Thank you for the answers.
War should be a last resort
This war is ILLEGAL. Plain and simple… why is this not the top headline?
Good for the British not wasting their tax dollars on american adventures in the middle east (this time, in any case)
>”We are not joining the US and Israeli offensive strikes. The basis for our decision is the collective self-defense of longstanding friends and allies and protecting British lives,“ he said.
>
>.. However, Starmer drew a distinction between the start of the conflict and the current situation, adding: „It is clear that Iran’s outrageous response has become a threat to our people, our interests and our allies, and it cannot be ignored.“
Starmer was right to refuse to join in the war, and he was also right to then start helping with missile defence after Iran began attacking random countries.
Good. This isn’t our war
Good. I dont think we should get involved unless it’s in some diplomatic way (not that diplomacy has any effect on Trump or Netanayu)
I draw the conclusion that our involvement would only stand as a political act. Our help is not needed in the literal sense, that they cannot do it without us.
Such a coward. The Islamic Republic has overrun their country. History won’t look kindly at the UK. They’ve interfered in almost every country when they shouldn’t have, but the one time they should, they throw their hands in the air.
Good. I remember the Iraq war, Afghanistan and Libya. How better off are any of those places now?
Don’t wanna enrage the in-house terrorists.
This is the right decision by the British. The fall out from getting into a full-blown war in Iran especially with talk about Turkey being next is going to be wild. Not to mention there’s millions and millions of muslims in Europe and no doubt there are quite a few sleeper cells and angry young men out there. Don’t let America drag Europe down with them
The way Hegseth has been bragging I don’t understand why they need any other country’s help….
And the way Trump has been treating our traditional allies I can’t believe any of them would bother regardless.
I really think they learnt from Afghanistan and Iraq
What MAGA doesn’t understand is that the rest of the world isn’t ever going to trust the United Stars again.