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  1. Leotard_Cohen on

    Map is probably just made by someone who doesn’t know the difference

  2. Dry_Action1734 on

    England has been the main element of Britain for a long time, so lots of English people see the two as interchangeable, which likely isn’t the case for others.

    As for why it changed since 2011… maybe the way the question was worded? That tends to have a significant amount of influence over how people answer.

  3. Regarding Northern Ireland, looking up Nisra ([https://build.nisra.gov.uk/en/custom/data?d=PEOPLE&v=LGD14&v=NAT_ID_IRISH_AGG3&p=1](https://build.nisra.gov.uk/en/custom/data?d=PEOPLE&v=LGD14&v=NAT_ID_IRISH_AGG3&p=1) and [https://build.nisra.gov.uk/en/custom/data?d=PEOPLE&v=LGD14&v=NAT_ID_BRITISH&p=1](https://build.nisra.gov.uk/en/custom/data?d=PEOPLE&v=LGD14&v=NAT_ID_BRITISH&p=1)) I see Irish outnumbers British in Belfast (barely), Fermanagh and Omagh, Mid Ulster, Newry, Mourne and Down, and Derry City and Strabane.

    Since people could choose more than one nationality, I calculated the percentages as 100% minus ‚No British identity‘ or 100% – ‚No Irish identity‘

    Also – this makes it pretty clear [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Northern_Ireland#/media/File:NI_most_common_national_identity.png](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Northern_Ireland#/media/File:NI_most_common_national_identity.png)

    ||**Any British**|**Any Irish**|
    |:-|:-|:-|
    |**Ards and North Down**|67.4%|10.7%|
    |**Mid and East Antrim**|65.3%|11.3%|
    |**Lisburn and Castlereagh**|57.0%|20.6%|
    |**Antrim and Newtownabbey**|55.5%|20.8%|
    |**Causeway Coast and Glens**|50.0%|25.4%|
    |**Armagh City, Banbridge and Craigavon**|44.2%|29.8%|
    |**Belfast**|36.8%|40.3%|
    |**Fermanagh and Omagh**|29.0%|44.7%|
    |**Mid Ulster**|28.2%|44.2%|
    |**Newry, Mourne and Down**|23.5%|51.9%|
    |**Derry City and Strabane**|22.5%|57.5%|

  4. im_on_the_case on

    Credit for using „The British and Irish Isles“ on the map itself but you let us down in the post title.

  5. Ciarrai_IRL on

    So the British are more heavily dense in two counties in Northern Ireland than in all of England?

  6. Caption is wrong, these are not the British Isles, they are Britain and Irish Isles. The right naming is in the image which you could have just copied

  7. > Does anyone know why did English people stop identifying as English?

    Yes, they switched the order between the English and British options in the form, now British comes before English

  8. epicredditdude1 on

    It’s amazing after so many years the national identities of the UK are still so distinct. 

  9. Sad_Sultana on

    It is genuinely because the order that british and English were listed on the census were switched. Whichever people see first they pick.

  10. Why is 60% the minimum threshold for representation on the map for some and 40% the minimum for others? Take Fermanagh and Omagh, for example. The minimum for British representation is 40% and for Irish it is 50%. The area is coloured purple, indicating that 40%+ identify as British in whole or in part. Yet, according to the 2021 census, 41% identified solely as Irish (up from 35% in the 2011 census), with even more identifying as partly Irish. But, because the threshold for British is lower, the area gets coloured purple. If both were given the same 40% threshold, it would have been coloured green. This is not a good map at all.

  11. Which table from the Irish 2016 Census are you getting the National Identity data from?

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