Always impressive how Lužice Serbs (Sorbs) managed to still exist with language and all in Germany while everyone else disappeared or was absorbed.
Porphyres on
Slavic presence in Greece is really impressive and extensive at that time.
thanasis87kav on
The Slavs were getting transported from Greece to Anatolia since 600s, although they were filling pockets in these areas an being the minority, they spread into today’s Turkey as well between 700s-900s
Nal1999 on
Slavs in Greece have heavily influenced our traditions. They combined Greek and Slavic practices into a beautiful blend. I would go on and say that Vlachic (we call Slavs that way, although Wallachia was in Romania and we are predominantly a Serbian influenced nation) villages have the best Carnevale events.
Front_Promise_5991 on
Wrong map. You mixed all invasions and etc.
For example baltic tribe Galindai ( goliads ) on moscow, baltic settlement near kyiv.
Brest Litowsk should be Yotwingian and etc.
Kulm should be baltic / prussian.
Cefalopodul on
No idea why Avaria is empty when it was heavily populated. The Avars were only a ruling elite, like the normans in England, they did not settle en-masse, the population of Avaria was almost entirely slavs, romanians and germans, with a few surviving pannonians mixed in.
autoklaasipuhastaja on
They are shown too far into Southeastern Estonia. Much of the coast of Lake Pskov has always been populated by Estonians.
Also, Estonians aren’t Balts, they are a Finnic people like Finns.
DeathRabit86 on
Some Eastern slavs was culturally changed Golden Horde.
Hrdina_Imperia on
I would argue, that the western/southern divide ran further to the south, towards or around lake Balaton. Although it’s hard to determine it exactly – and with the maps time frame being 300 years, almost impossible.
Luki-099 on
Curiosidad: la palabra Esclavo viene de la masa de Eslavos esclavizados en la Alta edad media por el Imperio Bizantino
O5KAR on
All of those borders should be dashed, not only in Pannonia or Baltics. People tend to have a skewed idea of the medieval borders and ethnic groups because they think these were the straight, constant and established lines. Also not every of the pictured lands were majority Slavic, like Greece for example and there were mentions of Slavic presence as far as Asia Minor.
Also, the differences between western, eastern and southern Slavs were minimal, the Slavic languages separated very late and they all are still very similar to each other.
Croats, Serbs / Sorbs or people called like that lived also in Bohemia.
Hethsegew on
It’s not really accurate. Avars were still going strong in Slavonia and Transdanubia, while Slavic colonies in the plains are not shown (Csongrád). White Croats were also not a thing over the Carpathians.
scybes on
South Slavs be like: This is Sparta! Our new home!
GustavoistSoldier on
The Drevilians were later exterminated by Olga of Kyiv
DocD_12 on
Excuse me. Am I seeing Hitler or Chaplin right in the center?
DifficultWill4 on
The west-east-south division did not exist at that time. It only accrued after the Bavarian and Hungarian invasion into northern Carantania and the Danube valley. And even today, the south slavic group is mostly geographical, as the languages did not evolve from a single proto-south slavic language
lledaso on
The map looks nice but in every other aspect it’s a truly bad map, full of fantasies, exaggerations, completely baseless suppositions and fake precision. The sources for this time are very sparse and vague and simply aren’t sufficient to create a map like this. And it seems to be based mostly on a wikipedia map that itself is based on some 1960s soviet propaganda Czech schoolbook.
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Always impressive how Lužice Serbs (Sorbs) managed to still exist with language and all in Germany while everyone else disappeared or was absorbed.
Slavic presence in Greece is really impressive and extensive at that time.
The Slavs were getting transported from Greece to Anatolia since 600s, although they were filling pockets in these areas an being the minority, they spread into today’s Turkey as well between 700s-900s
Slavs in Greece have heavily influenced our traditions. They combined Greek and Slavic practices into a beautiful blend. I would go on and say that Vlachic (we call Slavs that way, although Wallachia was in Romania and we are predominantly a Serbian influenced nation) villages have the best Carnevale events.
Wrong map. You mixed all invasions and etc.
For example baltic tribe Galindai ( goliads ) on moscow, baltic settlement near kyiv.
Brest Litowsk should be Yotwingian and etc.
Kulm should be baltic / prussian.
No idea why Avaria is empty when it was heavily populated. The Avars were only a ruling elite, like the normans in England, they did not settle en-masse, the population of Avaria was almost entirely slavs, romanians and germans, with a few surviving pannonians mixed in.
They are shown too far into Southeastern Estonia. Much of the coast of Lake Pskov has always been populated by Estonians.
Also, Estonians aren’t Balts, they are a Finnic people like Finns.
Some Eastern slavs was culturally changed Golden Horde.
I would argue, that the western/southern divide ran further to the south, towards or around lake Balaton. Although it’s hard to determine it exactly – and with the maps time frame being 300 years, almost impossible.
Curiosidad: la palabra Esclavo viene de la masa de Eslavos esclavizados en la Alta edad media por el Imperio Bizantino
All of those borders should be dashed, not only in Pannonia or Baltics. People tend to have a skewed idea of the medieval borders and ethnic groups because they think these were the straight, constant and established lines. Also not every of the pictured lands were majority Slavic, like Greece for example and there were mentions of Slavic presence as far as Asia Minor.
Also, the differences between western, eastern and southern Slavs were minimal, the Slavic languages separated very late and they all are still very similar to each other.
Croats, Serbs / Sorbs or people called like that lived also in Bohemia.
It’s not really accurate. Avars were still going strong in Slavonia and Transdanubia, while Slavic colonies in the plains are not shown (Csongrád). White Croats were also not a thing over the Carpathians.
South Slavs be like: This is Sparta! Our new home!
The Drevilians were later exterminated by Olga of Kyiv
Excuse me. Am I seeing Hitler or Chaplin right in the center?
The west-east-south division did not exist at that time. It only accrued after the Bavarian and Hungarian invasion into northern Carantania and the Danube valley. And even today, the south slavic group is mostly geographical, as the languages did not evolve from a single proto-south slavic language
The map looks nice but in every other aspect it’s a truly bad map, full of fantasies, exaggerations, completely baseless suppositions and fake precision. The sources for this time are very sparse and vague and simply aren’t sufficient to create a map like this. And it seems to be based mostly on a wikipedia map that itself is based on some 1960s soviet propaganda Czech schoolbook.