Psychische Gesundheit: Ottawa kündigt Gesundheitsstrategie für Männer und Jungen an
https://www.ctvnews.ca/atlantic/article/ottawa-to-launch-canadas-first-men-and-boys-health-strategy/
Psychische Gesundheit: Ottawa kündigt Gesundheitsstrategie für Männer und Jungen an
https://www.ctvnews.ca/atlantic/article/ottawa-to-launch-canadas-first-men-and-boys-health-strategy/
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Desperately needed and long overdue. The messaging towards boys and young men in the last decade or so has been abysmal. More initiatives like this are needed to show them that they’re valued by society
When I was younger, I didn’t understand why men between the ages of 30 and 45 had among the highest suicide rates. Now that I’m older, I 100% GET IT.
Canvassing the r/Canada community: If you were to make suggestions about what needs to be taken into account or approaches you think would be worthwhile, what would you include?
Nothing off limits here – even if an uncomfortable or impolite truth – as long as it’s a genuine answer.
I would trust the government’s strategy for mental health about as much as I would trust their strategy for balancing the budget and lowering the cost of housing.
Young man here. You want to fix mental health in young men?
Try by making it acceptable/affordable to do anything that allows me to feel like a man. Buy a house, own property, raise a family, not be inundated with student debt, not be priced out of a job by foreign labour. Afford to eat a fucking t-bone steak every once in a while.
Stop sending us to fight stupid wars because egomaniac politicians can’t get along.
Give us something, *anything*, that we can actually look forward to.
Try by not catering to every demographic *except* young men. I’m sick of hearing about societal issues caused by men.
I’m just a regular dude, and all my regular dude friends feel the exact same. We are sick and tired of this shit. I’m in my 30s, but prepare for Gen Z to be way way worse if we don’t get a handle on things. Those dudes will literally start burning the country down.
Long overdue and such great news!
> it’s important for men to look after themselves so they can better care for the other people in their lives
Males are the expendable gender in both society and nature. We don’t rear children and therefore are less necessary for survival of the species. We’re sent to war to die.
On a related note, I’d like them to address the trend in declining testosterone levels.
This is good to see. Women’s health issues have been extremely important over the last few decades (century?) due to the thousands of years of patriarchy. That being said, we must not allow men’s health issues to be ignored or seen as less worthy of attention.
My guess is this going to be another bunch of prayer circle woke bullshit, a waste of everyone’s time and money.
Improve young men’s outcomes in housing and cost of living affordability, and employment. They will form households more rapidly. They will have more money and time for leisure. They will sleep more and exercise more. They will be more patriotic. They’ll be less likely to engage in online conspiracy theory and be less likely to abuse substances.
All that stuff moves the needle 1000x more than whatever this smokescreen will end up being
>For example, men and boys will often appreciate a very practical approach where there’s problem-solving involved. You don’t have to talk endlessly about your feelings to get mental health help.”
I really do hope they focus on a male centric approach instead of more demonizing of men/masculinity as toxic but until I actually see the material I’m going to assume they’re following the same path as the last 2 decades
Retired family doctor here. If you are depressed please go to your family doctor or walk in clinic or nearest ER. Free help is available.
Anyone want to bet that this will just be a program designed by women, pushing therapy like counselling on men, rather than addressing men’s mental health issues in a more masculine manner that solves problems and doesn’t make these young men feel weak and useless, rather than just talking about their feelings?
How much money does this «strategy» cost?
This is great news.
Best that they are going to do is hire a woman who can visibly barely contain her hatred for men, who will then just keep saying “the patriarchy hurts men too”
I’m trying to be optimistic, but deep down I know that the liberals are only doing this because they are trying to win some of the votes backs from this demographic.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/healthy-living/improving-health-men-canada.html
They are looking for folks to also discuss and offer input. (June 1 deadline)
If you share your ideas 💡📄and experiences in where the gaps are, this will help them look at specific, policy focus too.
There us a form on webpage!
This is finally being looked at, which is long overdue.
A group I heard of out west, for support, is also a good ressource;
https://headsupguys.org/how-to-fight-depression/courses/mindfulness-for-men/
Boys this is what you’re going to do for your mental health.
Delete your social media, limit unproductive social hobbies like video games and drinking to a few hours a week. Increase productive hobbies like sports, proper meals, and passive income generation. Set goals for your future and work towards them. 1 year plans like a vacation, 5 year plans like by a house. 10 year plans like Save X amount of money.
Oh, and try this one, fucking sleep. Same time. Every night. 7 hrs minimum.
There are 3 kinds of woman to date right in the current scene.
She’s got goals, money, a good job and hobbies and that’s power couple vibes. Great woman to be with.
She wants her job to be a homemaker/mother and she is down to support you while you provide. Great woman to be with.
I don’t need to explain the 3rd option, it’s the female equivalent of fuckboy. If she is always on her phone but never texts you back, that’s how you know to just leave.
It’s sad that I read headlines like this and sigh in disbelieve. I don’t believe it will help. I don’t believe it can be helped and I feel like any attempt is a joke.
I don’t want to feel this way. I shouldn’t feel this way and I should have hope but over the years and years I’ve watched male mental and emotional issues laughed at and brushed off. Watched toxic destructive male behaviour continue and even be praised. I’ve lost all hope. I’ve said it before and I’m saying it again. At this point I’m ashamed to be a man. I’m ashamed of my past and I feel very little hope for my future.
Again, I know I shouldn’t feel this way but I do and this is from someone who’s been in therapy for years trying to correct this hang up.
Virtue signalling and breadcrumbing. Canadian mental health services are worse than non existent. Men are bummed out because established rites of passage are much more difficult to obtain and there is higher competition.
1. Moving out parent’s house (big one)
2. A career you can support yourself on, let alone your family
3. Urban sterility – the same tacky corporate architecture, hostile architecture, fluorescent lighting and a general „institutional“ feel to urban areas.
4. Ordering a pizza is a luxury now, especially if you have a man’s appetite.
5. Marrying and starting a family. I see how rough the dating scene is for young men and I’m grateful every day for my husband. If you’re a man, you’re expected to pay for everything, and right now, women are earning more than a large majoriry of men, meaning that higher status men have more women to choose from. You hear it all the time in popular songs – women don’t want no broke ass men.
With the mental health services as god awful as they are now, what could they possibly do for boys and men? I was locked in a room at Michael Garron Hospital for 3 days, given 3 minutes of time by the psychiatrist, and then relased a day later. The doctor tried to force a schizophrenia label on me, even though I don’t, nor have I ever heard voices, have never thought my thoughts were being broadcasted (even though mind reading technology is being developed), so I called his bluff and tried to play along…“sure, whatever, I have schizophrenia, HELP ME!“ The guy just looked down in embarrassment and walked out of there. I do not have a schizophrenia diagnosis, he just wanted me to argue with him, which I wouldn’t do. I was there for help. He walked out because he had nothing. His whole plan was to get me to argue about a false schizophrenia diagnosis, so he could say I was combattive and non compliant. Didn’t work. No psychosis or history of psychosis. My husband and I just to get some ptsd trauma care due to one of MANY violent housing situstions where we were preyed upon by cotenants and dirty landlord. The admitting psych nurse didn’t even know what trauma care was.
They kept my husband, who managed to see a psychiatrist for 10 minutes in 5 days. They wouldn’t release him. They just locked him in a room and forgot about him. I had to keep coming back and demand he be released. Finally someone released him.
We had gone to CAMH, that was a disaster. Staff were bullies. The place had deteriorated from the last time I went voluntarily for a psych evaluation because I was being gaslit at work. I was found to be of sound mind and body.
There was another time my husband and I went to St Joes psychiatric department just to have some relaxation time. Being homeless is stressful and we were both pretty wound up. We were locked in a room, and I had to keep kicking on the door to be let out. We were there voluntarily. When we were on our way to the hotel, I noticed my meth pipe was missing with the last of my meth. We had to go back for it, I was flipping out, so my husband who used to be nurse talked to them, and was able to get it back for me – with…drum roll please…more meth in the pipe than I originally had. The staff at St Joes took my pipe out of my bad and smoked my meth and some of theirs while we were locked in a room. My husband doesn’t use.
Before I get dismissed as crazy, no, I’m not high on meth typing this. It’s been a few months since my last use, and then 5 years before that. Its been at least a month since I’ve taken anything other than occasional low dose weed edbiles and kratom (of which I am currently on a taper). I do use mdma, ketamine and psychedelics very occasionally to cope with the trauma of yet another housing harassment and discrimination situation, as of last spring. Before that, it was 4.5 years of complete sobriety.
There was Toronto West General, which was a complete joke. Once again, there voluntarily.
The one thing men need most today, is a quite place to…JUST CHILL. Especially if one is poor, disadvantaged, or in a bad housing situation, like a public housing, homeless, or a bad rooming house, then they need to be able to escape from that. Those services don’t exist or if they do, they’re piecemeal breadcrumbs and shitty bandaid fixes at best. Thats if you’re even able to get a bed.
My husband have had to move numerous times because of homophobic harassment and violence dircted at us WHAT DOES THE 519 DO? NOOOTHIIIING!!! We have to just take it. Community legal clinics, lso, and LTB are GARBAGE!
You want to help men? Fix the corruption, fraud, malpractice, waste, malfeasance and incompetence not just in mental health, but accross the board!
Until then, it’s just wasted time and wasted money.
Men need accountability. Enough with the damn virtue signalling. The idiots that run mental health programs have their heads up their asses.
There are dangerous violent, psychopathic nutjobs running around, living in the shelters, public housing, rooming houses, and they need psychiatric incarceration. Oh, and the police? They support these people.
Fix society, the men will fix themselves. Until then, fuck off with the damn virtue signalling.