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    1. ABoutDeSouffle on

      >A retired Dutch general who attended last summer’s Nato summit in The Hague has claimed the train he was travelling on was attacked five times by Russians.

      >Ben Hodges told reporters at a security conference in Lithuania this week the roof of the train he was in “exploded” on the day of the Nato summit. The same thing happened at “five different places between Schiphol and The Hague and Utrecht,” Hodges said.

      >An NS spokesman told Dutch News that the two departments which would deal with such incidents have “no idea” what the general is talking about. “We do not recognise the situation he is describing,” the spokesman said.

      So, what to make of this? Are they suppressing facts or is Hodges just plain wrong?

      EDIT: [the explanation](https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1rg4ls9/dutch_railways_has_no_idea_about_retired_us/o7ow9nd/) by /u/SeveralLadder makes a lot of sense to me. I can’t believe explosions would have gone unnoticed like that. If you want to watch the interview, [here’s the video](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1rfj6yc/never_before_made_public_until_today_the_russians/)

    3. C4ndlejack on

      And these were private trains in the middle of nowhere? Surely, if a train had fucking exploded, others inside & outside would’ve noticed.

    5. Pleiadez on

      There was a suspected sabotage on the day of the nato summit. There were no trains because of a fire that was started in a transformer station.

      https://nos.nl/artikel/2572259-hele-dag-geen-treinen-tussen-schiphol-en-utrecht-en-amsterdam-sabotage-niet-uitgesloten

      https://www.politico.eu/article/train-cable-fire-nato-summit-fears-sabotage-netherlands-david-van-weel-security-cyberattack-russia/

      Very few more was released about the incident. But his recollection seems very strange considering. 

    7. thesharperamigo on

      Not sure if Hodges actually said that. I’ve seen some pretty shady sites claim he did. With video of him „saying“ it, with subtitles but without sound.

    8. SeveralLadder on

      [https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/24/sabotage-may-behind-schiphol-rail-problems-cyberattack-hits-nato-summit-websites](https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/24/sabotage-may-behind-schiphol-rail-problems-cyberattack-hits-nato-summit-websites)

      [https://apnews.com/article/nato-summit-train-sabotage-investigation-dcb29f0e126512811fac4b95d7662cac](https://apnews.com/article/nato-summit-train-sabotage-investigation-dcb29f0e126512811fac4b95d7662cac)

      It wasn’t explosives, but cables stretched across the railways. Difficult to investigate, and what they found may not be publicly communicated.

      Thing is, it’s been NATO doctrine to downplay russian hybrid warfare. Partly to deny the russians the intended exposure and subsequent impact on the perceived safety of the public, and partly to not escalate.

      I think the time is due to escalate in a targeted way, like we do at sea and in cyber.

    9. Yasuchika on

      It’s such an absurd claim I don’t even know which part of it should be debunked first.

    10. CellNo5383 on

      That sounds outlandish. And Hodges always seemed clear and reasonable in everything I’ve seen him say. That doesn’t line up. Any recordings of him actually saying it?

    12. Hagwart on

      They have no clue to recognize sabotage when a Russian is setting a building on fire in front of there noses.

    13. IncidentalIncidence on

      weird that neither the original claim nor the purported NS response has been reported by any legitimate news source, only the AI slop blogs. makes you wonder…..

    14. Htv65 on

      It is true that in the week of the NATO Summit in The Hague, there were severe and exceptional disruptions in railway traffic, especially between Amsterdam and The Hague. even though disruptions themselves are not exceptional. As a regular commuter on that train route, I experienced that first hand. An alternative (going by car) was not available as the main road connection between Amsterdam and The Hague was almost exclusively reserved for officials attending that NATO Summit.

      At that time, I already considered the possibility of sabotage by a foreign power, such as Russia. However, an explosion inside a train no doubt would have been reported by other train travelers.

    16. nlk72 on

      A us general travelling by train? Would it not be more likely he would be travelling by military/ embassy entourage?

    17. Coinsworthy on

      Yes this was in the media, and no, this had nothing to do with trains themselves. Rather it was a mention of potential sabotage of a set of power cables near Schiphol, leading to temporary disruptions.

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