This isn’t just about privacy vs Big Tech — it’s about strategic leverage. The US sees cross-border data flows as essential for AI, cloud dominance and economic competitiveness. Europe increasingly sees data localization and GDPR enforcement as tools of digital sovereignty.
The friction was probably inevitable once AI became a geopolitical asset. Data is no longer just personal information — it’s infrastructure. The real question is whether transatlantic alignment is still possible, or whether we’re heading toward a more fragmented digital order.
SignalOptions on
Of course, an AI trained only on American data is of no use to most countries.
rintzscar on
Exclusive: diplomats have absolutely no way to fight data sovereignty initiatives.
Adorable-Database187 on
>In the State Department cable, dated February 18 and signed by U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the agency said such laws would „disrupt global data flows, increase costs and cybersecurity risks, limit Artificial Intelligence (AI) and cloud services, and expand government control in ways that can undermine civil liberties and enable censorship.“
>The cable said the Trump administration was pushing for „a more assertive international data policy“ and that diplomats should „counter unnecessarily burdensome regulations, such as data localization mandates.“
>The State Department did not return a request for comment.
Pff it doesnt end does it, speedrunning the decline of an empire.
Independent-Ad6865 on
The more they protest and fight European data sovereignty, the more it becomes clear that there are nefarious reasons and that it is a strategic weaponizable asset… and the more it is clear that there cut to US IT/cloud/data/AI services is fundamental.
GreyMASTA on
„Let Peter Thiel and Elon Musk do whatever they want with your data!“
Errrrr…. How about no?
berejser on
They’re scared of us.
Good.
That means we’re doing the right thing.
TemporarySun314 on
Americans: „Europe has to stand more on its self, and become more independent, we cannot protect you forever“
Also Americans: „No, not like this. Buy our stuff and make yourself dependent on us, or it hurts the profits of our billionaires“
Long_Pomegranate2469 on
Any european politician not fighting this is compromised. Took bribes or in the Epstein v2 files
SisterOfBattIe on
>Data sovereignty initiatives have gathered pace, particularly in Europe, amid flaring tensions between the United States and the European Union over Washington’s protectionist trade policies and support for far-right political parties.
The USA was providing one thing to Europe: defense
The USA is no longer providing anything.
The USA wants a short term transactional relationship? They have got one.
MarcusSuperbuz on
How exactly would they do this? By asking nicely?
Fluffy-Drop5750 on
Isn’t that hard to solve. Compose a publicly available intranational dataset under UN supervision. Make it available to all that are interested. Provide procedures to get dara removed.
AI business knowledge is in the later processes of compacting, pruning, augmenting, learning, etc.
Illustrious_Peach494 on
in case it’s not obvious, us doesn’t want allies, it wants vassals.
DeliriousHippie on
I was a bit amazed that CEO’s of Microsoft, Google, Amazon etc aren’t trying to lessen European fears about US government seizing data. If I’d be a CEO of Amazon I would be telling one of worlds largest market that they have nothing to fear, Amazon will not let government access data. If EU cannot trust cloud providers then who can? If we don’t trust US cloud providers then no nation will trust them. That’s pretty big thing if your business is selling cloud internationally. I thought about that and then I realized, those CEO’s are terrified. They fear Trump more than losing their international business. They fear that if they publicly challenge US government they will be demolished.
FullstackSensei on
Big tech CEOs would do much better doing European tours trying to calm governments and offering solutions that would calm both sides fears, rather than outsourcing this to an antagonistic administration that will only strengthen Europe and everyone else’s resolve to decouple from US big tech.
Even if the Trump administration went away tomorrow, those CEOs have burned too many bridges with western countries for those countries to continue to rely on their tech willingly.
WanderlustZero on
They really started believing their own ‚American Empire‘ hype, eh. But trump is no Caesar.
Just_Information334 on
Still you should not forget that the main goal of the GDPR is to harmonize local legislation. Not to protect EU consumers but to make it easier for companies in one EU country to exchange data with a company in another EU country as now the law is the same in both countries.
So don’t be surprised when this framework is extended to other countries in a decade or two which the US or China could be.
StomachNecessary5512 on
The Bible, Hosea 8:7 says:
For they have sown wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind
Translated: the one who causes aggression or negativity has to face the consequences
The US betrayed and bullied its former allies. Europe does not forget this and chooses its own path for the future
ImpulsiveApe07 on
Rubio is such a shameless lickspittle. He’s blatantly one of the most compromised players on the US political stage today – everything he says and does is entirely at the behest of his billionaire bumchums.
As for the new directive to ‚fight data sovereignty initiatives‘, it’s just not going to work anymore – the US gov is a decade late to that party, and they’ve burned way too many bridges to convince Europe to acquiesce to their demands.
That, and they no longer have anything of worth to offer us, now that they’ve proven to be both unreliable defence and trade partners. US softpower is absolutely fkd now.
European data sovereignty is of paramount importance, now more than ever – to err on the side of meekness would be a critical mistake we’d likely never recover from.
We need to be loud and proud about striking out on our own, and not cowering in the corner waiting for the US to stop bullying us.
If we continue to let those sociopathic US oligarchs dictate our data integrity and security policies, we’re absolutely buggered in the long run.
Segil69 on
Déjà c’était une sacrée erreur de laisser nos données être aspirées par les américains, on aurait dû couper le cordon il y a des années. Mais bon, la commission européenne n’était qu’une vague extension du gouvernement américain il y a quelques années, Van der Leyen n’avait pas eu le moindre problème d’essayer de mettre une américaine à un poste stratégique, il avait fallu que certains pays y mettent le hola en urgence.
MadeyesNL on
During his Munich speech Rubio literally said we should be less dependent on others in our supply lines. What did he expect?
EduBru on
So…. What is it now what americans want? Become more independent or stop becoming more sovereign?
Intrepid-Routine-875 on
The more they protest, the more they prove us right.
It’s objective, if it were as safe as they say, they wouldn’t insist so much.
Keep it up, Europe.
CryptoJeans on
They both loathe the EU and want them to be vassal states.
needcoffee82 on
Friendly reminder to vote for candidates who will dump Palantir
nail_nail on
Good. Push harder on those initiatives.
TheSpiritKnight on
And… how exactly will they be fighting digital sovereignty initiatives? Because if they’re doing it with the same level of diplomacy and competence shown by American diplomats over the past year the only thing they’ll achieve is something good for Europe – they’ll push European countries even stronger on that path.
Logical-Leopard-1965 on
Of course. If you want to learn why – in detail – then I highly recommend a book by MIT Emeritus Professor Shoshana Zuboff, called “The age of surveillance capitalism.” Made my hair stand on end. Thank God I live in the EU.
Dangermouse163 on
Hey, the US can be trusted to kidnap foreign leaders, threaten allies, collude with authoritarians, impose unjustified tariffs, make a mockery of democracy, protect pedos and fraudsters, withhold due process, try to rig elections, etc.
Of course they can be trusted with personal data. /s
InformationNew66 on
EU is happy to send data to India, Pakistan, etc. and yet preaches about data sovereignty. What a joke.
Zlimness on
No, we Europeans don’t need to give up our personal privacy and integrity just so techbros like Elon Musk and Sam Altman can make another trillion dollar constructing more personalized disinformation on American social media.
Shurg on
People still pretending those are our „greatest allies“ are complicit and at best useful idiots.
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This isn’t just about privacy vs Big Tech — it’s about strategic leverage. The US sees cross-border data flows as essential for AI, cloud dominance and economic competitiveness. Europe increasingly sees data localization and GDPR enforcement as tools of digital sovereignty.
The friction was probably inevitable once AI became a geopolitical asset. Data is no longer just personal information — it’s infrastructure. The real question is whether transatlantic alignment is still possible, or whether we’re heading toward a more fragmented digital order.
Of course, an AI trained only on American data is of no use to most countries.
Exclusive: diplomats have absolutely no way to fight data sovereignty initiatives.
>In the State Department cable, dated February 18 and signed by U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the agency said such laws would „disrupt global data flows, increase costs and cybersecurity risks, limit Artificial Intelligence (AI) and cloud services, and expand government control in ways that can undermine civil liberties and enable censorship.“
>The cable said the Trump administration was pushing for „a more assertive international data policy“ and that diplomats should „counter unnecessarily burdensome regulations, such as data localization mandates.“
>The State Department did not return a request for comment.
Pff it doesnt end does it, speedrunning the decline of an empire.
The more they protest and fight European data sovereignty, the more it becomes clear that there are nefarious reasons and that it is a strategic weaponizable asset… and the more it is clear that there cut to US IT/cloud/data/AI services is fundamental.
„Let Peter Thiel and Elon Musk do whatever they want with your data!“
Errrrr…. How about no?
They’re scared of us.
Good.
That means we’re doing the right thing.
Americans: „Europe has to stand more on its self, and become more independent, we cannot protect you forever“
Also Americans: „No, not like this. Buy our stuff and make yourself dependent on us, or it hurts the profits of our billionaires“
Any european politician not fighting this is compromised. Took bribes or in the Epstein v2 files
>Data sovereignty initiatives have gathered pace, particularly in Europe, amid flaring tensions between the United States and the European Union over Washington’s protectionist trade policies and support for far-right political parties.
The USA was providing one thing to Europe: defense
The USA is no longer providing anything.
The USA wants a short term transactional relationship? They have got one.
How exactly would they do this? By asking nicely?
Isn’t that hard to solve. Compose a publicly available intranational dataset under UN supervision. Make it available to all that are interested. Provide procedures to get dara removed.
AI business knowledge is in the later processes of compacting, pruning, augmenting, learning, etc.
in case it’s not obvious, us doesn’t want allies, it wants vassals.
I was a bit amazed that CEO’s of Microsoft, Google, Amazon etc aren’t trying to lessen European fears about US government seizing data. If I’d be a CEO of Amazon I would be telling one of worlds largest market that they have nothing to fear, Amazon will not let government access data. If EU cannot trust cloud providers then who can? If we don’t trust US cloud providers then no nation will trust them. That’s pretty big thing if your business is selling cloud internationally. I thought about that and then I realized, those CEO’s are terrified. They fear Trump more than losing their international business. They fear that if they publicly challenge US government they will be demolished.
Big tech CEOs would do much better doing European tours trying to calm governments and offering solutions that would calm both sides fears, rather than outsourcing this to an antagonistic administration that will only strengthen Europe and everyone else’s resolve to decouple from US big tech.
Even if the Trump administration went away tomorrow, those CEOs have burned too many bridges with western countries for those countries to continue to rely on their tech willingly.
They really started believing their own ‚American Empire‘ hype, eh. But trump is no Caesar.
Still you should not forget that the main goal of the GDPR is to harmonize local legislation. Not to protect EU consumers but to make it easier for companies in one EU country to exchange data with a company in another EU country as now the law is the same in both countries.
So don’t be surprised when this framework is extended to other countries in a decade or two which the US or China could be.
The Bible, Hosea 8:7 says:
For they have sown wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind
Translated: the one who causes aggression or negativity has to face the consequences
The US betrayed and bullied its former allies. Europe does not forget this and chooses its own path for the future
Rubio is such a shameless lickspittle. He’s blatantly one of the most compromised players on the US political stage today – everything he says and does is entirely at the behest of his billionaire bumchums.
As for the new directive to ‚fight data sovereignty initiatives‘, it’s just not going to work anymore – the US gov is a decade late to that party, and they’ve burned way too many bridges to convince Europe to acquiesce to their demands.
That, and they no longer have anything of worth to offer us, now that they’ve proven to be both unreliable defence and trade partners. US softpower is absolutely fkd now.
European data sovereignty is of paramount importance, now more than ever – to err on the side of meekness would be a critical mistake we’d likely never recover from.
We need to be loud and proud about striking out on our own, and not cowering in the corner waiting for the US to stop bullying us.
If we continue to let those sociopathic US oligarchs dictate our data integrity and security policies, we’re absolutely buggered in the long run.
Déjà c’était une sacrée erreur de laisser nos données être aspirées par les américains, on aurait dû couper le cordon il y a des années. Mais bon, la commission européenne n’était qu’une vague extension du gouvernement américain il y a quelques années, Van der Leyen n’avait pas eu le moindre problème d’essayer de mettre une américaine à un poste stratégique, il avait fallu que certains pays y mettent le hola en urgence.
During his Munich speech Rubio literally said we should be less dependent on others in our supply lines. What did he expect?
So…. What is it now what americans want? Become more independent or stop becoming more sovereign?
The more they protest, the more they prove us right.
It’s objective, if it were as safe as they say, they wouldn’t insist so much.
Keep it up, Europe.
They both loathe the EU and want them to be vassal states.
Friendly reminder to vote for candidates who will dump Palantir
Good. Push harder on those initiatives.
And… how exactly will they be fighting digital sovereignty initiatives? Because if they’re doing it with the same level of diplomacy and competence shown by American diplomats over the past year the only thing they’ll achieve is something good for Europe – they’ll push European countries even stronger on that path.
Of course. If you want to learn why – in detail – then I highly recommend a book by MIT Emeritus Professor Shoshana Zuboff, called “The age of surveillance capitalism.” Made my hair stand on end. Thank God I live in the EU.
Hey, the US can be trusted to kidnap foreign leaders, threaten allies, collude with authoritarians, impose unjustified tariffs, make a mockery of democracy, protect pedos and fraudsters, withhold due process, try to rig elections, etc.
Of course they can be trusted with personal data. /s
EU is happy to send data to India, Pakistan, etc. and yet preaches about data sovereignty. What a joke.
No, we Europeans don’t need to give up our personal privacy and integrity just so techbros like Elon Musk and Sam Altman can make another trillion dollar constructing more personalized disinformation on American social media.
People still pretending those are our „greatest allies“ are complicit and at best useful idiots.