Shamima Begum plant, „Menschenschmuggler“ einzusetzen, um die Rückkehr nach Großbritannien zu erzwingen, wie aus neuen Nachrichten hervorgeht
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/shamima-begum-people-smugglers-uk-isis-5HjdTQP_2/
Von tylerthe-theatre
Shamima Begum plant, „Menschenschmuggler“ einzusetzen, um die Rückkehr nach Großbritannien zu erzwingen, wie aus neuen Nachrichten hervorgeht
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/shamima-begum-people-smugglers-uk-isis-5HjdTQP_2/
Von tylerthe-theatre
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Thought she had no money and was in serious danger?
Can’t be that poor and that much in danger can she, if she’s got the money to pay these people and trust them.
I’m surprised that she hasn’t gone down this route already, to be honest. It seems an obvious solution to force the situation to a head.
*If she turns up, immediately deport her* she has the ability to go to another country thanks to her parents, *and she’s been deemed a security risk*
I do wonder how much tax payer money has been spent on her in general since leaving the country.
I really hoped I’d never hear that wretched name again. 😒
Felt sorry for her at first, being 15 and that, but she doesn’t regret it at all, and only regrets that ISIS did bad things to women like her, not that it did bad things to anyone else or that its ideology is fucked up. She still believes in all that. She thinks she is being made an example of and I say yes make an example of her. Sincerely, never-Tory-never-Reform voter.
She choose to join ISIS, and later became an enforcer of ISIS‘ laws. Why should someone who do did that be a, allowed to return to the UK, and b, not immediately removed from the UK once they arrive?
Her case is so awful. I watched her bbc documentary and she came across so badly. She was a radicalised, groomed child when she left. Then, no doubt forced in to marriage and pregnancy by very scary people. BUT she’s never proved herself to be trustworthy, uk intelligence knows she’s completely brainwashed and vulnerable enough to do god knows what if she was back in the UK. This is a last ditch attempt to escape the hellish life she created for herself as a very stupid teenager.
If she pulls this off the UK government will have a full mental breakdown.
Honestly, the only good thing the government have done in a while was strip her citizenship and refuse to let her back in
Foreign born person does bad things in the UK: „Deport them! Send them back where they came from, why should they be our problem??“
UK born person who was radicalised in the UK does bad things abroad: „Not our problem, why should we take them back, why should we handle it when another country could?“
She did some nasty things. She’s a British citizen. She should return to the UK to stand trial and be punished for her crimes. We’re meant to be a nation of law and order.
Also worth adding, there are many people born and bred in the UK, who are eligible for citizenship elsewhere, who fully are and identify as English. God knows how many people are eligible for an Irish passport alone. Supporting the idea that the government can strip them of that and completely absolve themselves of responsibility is dangerous and authoritarian.
Do we not still have the death penalty for treason?
Can she actually be found guilty in a courtroom with anything to keep her locked up for a decent amount of time? Imagine if she got here and was given something shit like 5 years.
I live in Australia. With the amount of hassles it is to apply for a British passport for my son I’m considering doing the same.
I’ll just send him over on a dinghy. It’s gotta be easier than the huge amount of paper work and providing documents that are long gone
She’s a psycho. SHouldn’t be allowed back in. She made her bed.
People always seem to miss why she can’t come back here and why the decision to strip her citizenship was taken.
The UK government is not sure they can actually prosecute her or win a case even if they do. The second order effects from this are enormous, a lot of people are going to rightly point out the travesty of it and cause massive social unrest.
She’s also going to have to be monitored by intelligence services forever and probably need police protection.
This just shows what a criminal she is,
using her contacts in the criminal world to gain access into this country .
You are not welcome here.
She was self interested then and self interested now.
I know everyone hates her and she made a shitty apology video which showed no remorse and enraged everyone further but I do think it’s fucked up she got her citizenship taken away when actual ISIS fighters got to keep it. All because the general public instantly hated her after she gave an interview where she seemed like fucking Vicki pollard. Fact is she was a kid when she stupidly joined the caliphate. Terrible decision which deserves consequences? Absolutely. But removing citizenship is a major thing to do and it just seems illogical to take it away from an ISIS bride who has already probably gone through untold horrors but then other people who were better actors were welcomed back with open arms. Only thing different is her personality and apology were not as fake.
Wont she ever shut up and go away. She made her life choices so deal with it.
Honestly, I think she’s pretty hot. Can’t help thinking if she were white this would never had happened to her.
Weird how someone who was groomed and radicalised as a 15 year old child has such little sympathy from so many
Well that’s how the Canadian intelligence agent who groomed her as a child got her to ISIS in the first place
She could just come in on a small boat and no one would care.
Tbh I’d welcome that, as I think the whole position of her being stateless is unsatisfactory.
If she enters the UK it’s unlikely she’d be deported as there’s an active case against the UK government in the European Court of Human Rights and I can’t see a judge allowing deportation until that is heard.
It’s pretty telling that she has the means and connections to arrange this while claiming to be destitute and in constant peril.
Not being funny but the amount of undocumented unknown people we accept in and home. Why is Shamima any different to the rest we are letting in
Can someone ELI5 what the apparent strategy is at announcing this? Seems like it’s just that much easier to deport her once she arrives since she is a non citizen now.
She will be hurt if she returns. Why would she do that?
If she comes across she will probably be the last it will hand such a gift to reform it probably pushes labour into leaving the ECHR
If she had been brought home and went through a trial she would long be forgotten about.
Instead in order to make racist xenophobic Tory supporters happy in fear of losing them to other parties they decided to revoke her citizenship and here we are today with the Tories out on their arse, Reform pushing Labour for power and we are still talking about her.
If I was in the business of smuggling people out of Syria (or anywhere else) I would not even consider such a high profile high risk individual for the sums of money suggested by the article. Cynically maybe but I think it could be an attempt by the two girls to stay visible in the news cycle
This woman is being denied her birthright. What she does in life is irrelevant and everybody in Britain should be outraged that her citizenship has been stolen. If you don’t feel outrage then you should surrender your citizenship too. Government does NOT represent the rights of citizens.
I can’t imagine she’d last very long if she somehow made it back, tbh.
Season 2 of I’m not a monster podcast is well worth a listen. To be honest so is season 1.
But 2 is about her. The real issue is I don’t think they have substantial proof of anything to put her away for 30 years I’m sure she did some horrendous things but proving them in court? All her friends she left with died.
If she made it back and if they could get past her being 15 at the time what ever sentence they hand down would be tiny. Then she’s out probably under protection with a changed name.
The outrage would be massive.
So she returns and we lock her up and put her on trial.
It’s probably costing more in international lawyers and diplomatic time. Vs the cost of locking her up for life !
just let her come back and charge her with terrorism… job done.