„Das ist völlige Rassentrennung“ – Sozialmieter sind empört über den fehlenden Zugang zum Fitnessstudio, der Sauna und dem Kinoraum des „erstklassigen“ Apartmentkomplexes
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/dublin-news/its-completely-segregation-social-tenants-hit-out-at-lack-of-access-to-premier-apartment-complexs-gym-sauna-and-cinema-room/a1214442257.html
Von PoppedCork
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Social tenants in a new Dublin apartment complex are saying they’re blocked from using the gym, sauna and cinema room — despite living in the same building as private renters.
The developer says those amenities are “for paying residents only,” while tenants argue it’s basically segregation in all but name.
Is this a case of people feeling entitled to extras they didn’t pay for, or is it a two‑tier housing system being baked into new developments?
What do ye think entitlement or segregation?
I think it would be unfair to allow them to use amenities everyone else has to pay for, especially when everyone else also pays crazy rents.
A happy compromise could be that social tenants pay an access fee for such amenities? Similar to how they would pay for electricity, or access to a gym outside the apartment..
It’s not segregation. They feel entitled to it but there’s no reason why
Beggars can’t be choosers
The alternative headline in lala land : „Dublin city Council shells out for saunas, cinema and gym membership for social tenants as thousands sit on waiting list“
This is a nothing issue.
The person quoted probably wouldn’t have taken the extremely discounted accommodation had they known in advance they wouldn’t have access to the sauna. In fact, nobody in their right mind would! /s
Part V tenants cause mayhem in my estate and many others. Segregation is not going nearly far enough.
Total brass neck expecting access to facilities they are mooching off
I would be embarrassed if I was in this building paying council rates and this story broke.
Living 10 minutes away from Stephens Green for €60 a week wasn’t good enough. Tired of this.
Social housing is a scarce public resource. Why would anyone ever want to strive to get off social housing if they were getting „gym, the sauna, the internet, the library room, the cinema room“ for free or a discount? This type of luxury incentivises people and their offspring to see social housing as something intended for life. Social housing should not incentivise long-term dependence because it is intended as a temporary safety net.
Permanent reliance on subsidised housing shifts social housing away from its core mission. Rather than acting as a transitional support, it risks becoming a parallel housing market detached from need-based allocation.
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This is unreal. Segregation would be putting them in ACTUAL social housing like the old days and then letting them buy out the freehold for a pittance so they could sell the house on the open market and make a fortune. Currently there is a Council House for sake in Glasthule in Dublin for 1.1 million.
If they want to use them, pay the fee as those amenities have to be maintained and its hard for the council on a limited budget to justify paying for that.
Some people are unbelievable. I know a girl, degree educated with a strong work history, currently living in a family hub with 2 very small boys after eventually getting out of a violent relationship who would be delighted to be offered any property. Then you have the likes of these giving social tenants a bad name with their greed. The difference is this girl carries (wrongly) shame for ending up in this situation and is grateful for any and all help she can get whereas there are a group of Irish people who feel entitled to be looked after by the state and see absolutely nothing wrong with demanding access to a cinema room and sauna in their „forever home“
Next they’ll complain they can’t use the car park because they haven’t been given a council car to keep up with what other tenants are paying for.
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This is the same in Australia, those paying higher rent have access to these type of facilities.
Just pay for the upkeep like the other tenants. Otherwise, stop whinging. Grown children.
I assume the facilities are covered by hefty maintenance fees paid by private apartment owners/renters?
We all know what happens to nice, open-access amenities in this country.
I know councils don’t want to be landlords, jut jfc, how can paying rents like this be justified?
Know someone that sold a house recently, 5bed (4 with garage conversion). Had been rented to the council for a woman and her adult son. Fucking madness.
Possibly a controversial opinion, but there shouldn’t be any social housing in Dublin. It’s more expensive for the taxpayer and results in worse outcomes for the people who are in receipt of it.
I’m probably going to get downvoted in to oblivion for this but I genuinely do not understand why social homes are being given away when the houses / apartments next to them are being paid for privately through the fucking nose.
Of course it’s going to leave a sour taste and basically a „fuck you“ to anybody who did things the correct way, like getting a job and saving hard.
A friend of mine moved in to a new build 6 months ago and went sale agreed at 480k on a 3 bed semi, him and his partner will be paying around 1800~ per month for their mortgage for the next 35 years. They have been working their entire adult lives and had to put off having a child until they had a roof over their heads and could afford to, squeezing out the very last of whatever was left in their paycheck.
Two identical houses on either side of him have been given to two families with one child and both of those houses do not work and have newer cars than him and treat the place like a dumping ground.
How in the name of fuck is anything about that situation fair? Social housing should be all built together and scattered around each county. It should not be a mix of private and social houses, it just causes resentment, in my opinion.
Absolute wasters. What incentive is there to get off social housing if you get a free sauna, gym, cinema room?
The fact that such a premium apartment complex like this has to take social housing residents is a disgrace.
There’s no incentive in Ireland to work and actually make life better for yourself, other than your own shame.
Be enough of a sponge and you can just complain about getting everything for nothing, despite others paying their well earned money for the exact same thing. Great system.
„It’s complete segregation“ – private property owners hit out at lack of access to completely free retrofit scheme being carried out by local authorities for social housing tenants.
The pendulum swings both ways.
The entitlement of some people never ceases to amaze me.
Taxpayers to foot bill for saunas gym and cinema trips .
Remove them and give the apartments to people who would be grateful to live in them. This entitlement from people not willing to push themselves to earn it pisses me off.
If they were housed in a hotel they would probably want room service too.
No sympathy. You’re not paying like everyone else. If you have the money to pay „optional extra fees for access“, then you don’t need the social housing.
They’re it going to get much sympathy with this bullshit.
I grew up in a council housing estate. The reality is you get a social house. Thats fantastic. Thats the end of it. Paying for gyms or cars etc is extra that need a mixer for as they used to say and thats a whole other story.
They are lucky to get a house. Most of the social tenants are ok. Single mums etc
However they are those who i would say arnt so much bad as dangerous.
They should not be getting premium apartments that most working people cannot afford in the first place! The entitlement to demand access to gyms and saunas while paying €50/month for their apartment when working people are paying €3000+ is delusional!
The amenities are not even in the building they live in – they just want what their neighbours have, and for free. Might as well complain about the car in the neighbour’s driveway being suppressive because you have to get the bus. No concept of living within their means.
People getting free stuff will always want more free stuff.