Teachers have been saying this for a long, long time now. But what do they know? It’s only their training and daily experience. Let’s put all that money into tech instead of paying teachers what they are worth and getting better teachers.
81PBNJ on
I feel like schools changed from learning to trying to teach skills for corporate jobs. It used to be that companies would hire smart kids out of school and train them. Now they’ve tried to push the training to the schools and the tax payers.
rnilf on
> „Unfortunately, ease has never been a defining characteristic of learning,“ Horvath told Fortune. „Learning is effortful, difficult, and oftentimes uncomfortable. But it’s the friction that makes learning deep and transferable into the future.“
This is why I’ve always been aggravated by the „my math teacher was wrong about how we wouldn’t always have a calculator in our pockets“ people.
It’s not about how quick and easy it is to get to the solution.
I had a high school math teacher put it to me really simply and it stuck with me: „Figure out the how and why, not just the what.“ Seems like common sense now, but someone had to say it out loud for it to click in my dumb kid brain.
He was a weird guy, ex-CIA then became kind of a Northern California hippie who decided to teach math, maybe that’s why it stuck with me.
ovokramer on
Former IT coordinator here at a K-8. Chromebook suck, if any computer time it should be supplemental to regular teaching/a reward. Executives don’t understand repair/infrastructure cost. Students aren’t held accountable. It becomes another thing for teachers to manage/monitor all while -being underpaid.
Historical_Emeritus on
Need to take the laptops away, go back to laptop carts and computer labs. They’re just too much of a distraction. You obviously need kids to learn basic proficiency, so access to computers isn‘ the problem. The problem is having them on all day as a distraction. When they aren’t actively distracting they just gameify cheating.
It was a massive blunder.
Of course, with AR glasses incoming, maybe it’s all too late anyway. When your Rx glasses can project the internet at all waking times, getting rid of the laptops may not be enough.
finallygrownup on
„Moderation in all things“ just dumping tech into all things Ed sounds like a recipe for distraction and bad outcomes.
Few_Initiative2474 on
Like I said before if you’re so hostile and concerned of the cons of it so much why don’t you do and balance both. Pen and paper in some classes and computer labs and other digital elements in others.
BuddyMose on
“May” is what makes the headline funny
Leifbron on
Laptops were great. People need them to use Canvas and do labs and stuff.
iPads were an absolute flop. Every lab done with an iPad was just some unnecessary waste of time. Every time they’d roll the iPads out, I knew we weren’t going to learn anything that day.
petrifikate on
I’ve got a question for people who have kids currently in school with school issued Chromebooks like this: did your kids have any sort of Computer Discovery class? When I was in middle school in the early 2000s, we had a basic computer skills class that taught touch-typing, basic shortcuts, internet literacy, etc. It seems like these days, administrators just throw a laptop at children and assume they already know how to do these things.
stedun on
Pulling laptops and tablets out will also solve the AI cheating problems as well.
Introduce tech in a controlled way, after the fundamental learning has occurred.
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Teachers have been saying this for a long, long time now. But what do they know? It’s only their training and daily experience. Let’s put all that money into tech instead of paying teachers what they are worth and getting better teachers.
I feel like schools changed from learning to trying to teach skills for corporate jobs. It used to be that companies would hire smart kids out of school and train them. Now they’ve tried to push the training to the schools and the tax payers.
> „Unfortunately, ease has never been a defining characteristic of learning,“ Horvath told Fortune. „Learning is effortful, difficult, and oftentimes uncomfortable. But it’s the friction that makes learning deep and transferable into the future.“
This is why I’ve always been aggravated by the „my math teacher was wrong about how we wouldn’t always have a calculator in our pockets“ people.
It’s not about how quick and easy it is to get to the solution.
I had a high school math teacher put it to me really simply and it stuck with me: „Figure out the how and why, not just the what.“ Seems like common sense now, but someone had to say it out loud for it to click in my dumb kid brain.
He was a weird guy, ex-CIA then became kind of a Northern California hippie who decided to teach math, maybe that’s why it stuck with me.
Former IT coordinator here at a K-8. Chromebook suck, if any computer time it should be supplemental to regular teaching/a reward. Executives don’t understand repair/infrastructure cost. Students aren’t held accountable. It becomes another thing for teachers to manage/monitor all while -being underpaid.
Need to take the laptops away, go back to laptop carts and computer labs. They’re just too much of a distraction. You obviously need kids to learn basic proficiency, so access to computers isn‘ the problem. The problem is having them on all day as a distraction. When they aren’t actively distracting they just gameify cheating.
It was a massive blunder.
Of course, with AR glasses incoming, maybe it’s all too late anyway. When your Rx glasses can project the internet at all waking times, getting rid of the laptops may not be enough.
„Moderation in all things“ just dumping tech into all things Ed sounds like a recipe for distraction and bad outcomes.
Like I said before if you’re so hostile and concerned of the cons of it so much why don’t you do and balance both. Pen and paper in some classes and computer labs and other digital elements in others.
“May” is what makes the headline funny
Laptops were great. People need them to use Canvas and do labs and stuff.
iPads were an absolute flop. Every lab done with an iPad was just some unnecessary waste of time. Every time they’d roll the iPads out, I knew we weren’t going to learn anything that day.
I’ve got a question for people who have kids currently in school with school issued Chromebooks like this: did your kids have any sort of Computer Discovery class? When I was in middle school in the early 2000s, we had a basic computer skills class that taught touch-typing, basic shortcuts, internet literacy, etc. It seems like these days, administrators just throw a laptop at children and assume they already know how to do these things.
Pulling laptops and tablets out will also solve the AI cheating problems as well.
Introduce tech in a controlled way, after the fundamental learning has occurred.