This looks really bad. This is the sort of headline you expect to come out of Russia.
> The only passenger in the car when an American citizen was shot and killed by a federal officer in South Texas last year had planned to speak up and contradict the government’s account of the shooting. However, the passenger, Joshua Orta, died in an unrelated car crash over the weekend.
>Mr. Orta, 25, was in the passenger seat on March 15, 2025, when his childhood friend, Ruben Ray Martinez, 23, was shot multiple times in South Padre Island by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer after the authorities said he failed to comply with commands to exit his vehicle.
>In a written statement obtained by The New York Times, Mr. Orta said that the two men had offered no resistance to law enforcement officers and were trying to comply with commands to turn around the car when the situation got out of control and Mr. Martinez was shot.
kamalhusta16 on
That is incredibly suspicious. Timing couldn’t be worse for accountability.
Just_the_nicest_guy on
It’s only surprising that he didn’t fall out of a window.
splunkerd on
What a coincidence.
Anxious-Dig-5736 on
Convenient
Prestigious-Carry907 on
At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump himself caused the highway collision that killed Orta.
albiondave on
„Accident“ doing a lot of the heavy lifting in that sentence.
NexusNickel on
I feel like we are living in Russia.
Key witnesses just dying from suicide or car accidents.
Won’t be long now before we start seeing key witnesses falling in the bathroom and breaking their neck and dying that way with 30 stab wounds in the back.
Weary_Boat on
Aren’t statements from dead witnesses allowable in court?
hyperiongate on
No tall buildings nearby?
cu4tro on
That’s not suspicious at all.
steveosaurus on
would they have wanted to be buried on a golf course?
Kttail on
Stoopid paywall!
gnibberish on
It’s well known that three letter agencies can access cars and “suicide” people?
10v1 on
Putin’s playbook. Car accidents are the American version of falling out of windows in Russia.
Reminds me of the Rep. Massie „I am not going to hurt myself…the brakes on my car and truck work fine…“ tweet
0masterdebater0 on
If you drive a car manufactured after about 2010 and someone in the government wants you dead… well you could ask Michael Hastings what happens
dull_shimmer on
We’re at the falling out of windows, mysterious car accidents, healthy person has a heart attack, etc. phase of Authoritarianism.
raika11182 on
I will say for the second time on Reddit within the last couple weeks: Car accidents / getting hit by a car sure do seem like the American version of falling out a window, don’t they?
Hopeful_Tie2055 on
„car accident“
orcinyadders on
Well, what are the specifics on the car accident?
jtabernik on
While I agree this is extremely suspicious—do these guys need to actually kill anyone? There is video of the shooting of Pretti. There were lots of witnesses. No one has been held accountable and I doubt the far right even thinks the killing was wrong. Why would they need to do anything to a witness?
Defiant_Chipmunk2570 on
Yes, the police said he fell down an elevator shaft onto some bullets. They said it was an accident.
turb0_encapsulator on
just like Epstein victims, people who are willing to testify against ICE are going to all die in mysterious circumstances.
Gear_Wrench_Dead on
This is the kinda shit you see in a bad movie… All of it, the whole thing.
dsj79 on
So did the Trump administration do the same thing they did to Epstein?
maybeinoregon on
Do not question things that happen in Russia 2.0…
Grim_And_Crafty on
Surprised the witness didn’t “fall out of the window”
This is evil people trying to get away with their crimes and intimidating them. They need to be brought to justice
clickmagnet on
The only reason I don’t think ICE murdered Joshua Orta too is that they don’t give a fuck if everyone knows they murdered Ruben Ray Martinez, so long as they don’t face a consequence. They’re on tape planning to ram Marimar Martinez, then doing so, and then shooting her five times, and testifying she hit them. It made no difference all.
GoggleDMara9756 on
The USA has done so many real actual conspiratorial stuff, let’s stop making shit up when they’re literally kidnapping people off the streets, overthrowing foreign nations, etc
I_like_kittycats on
Add another one to the Trump body count
Disastrous-Gas1831 on
Does anyone have a link to the article without a paywall?
CedarSageAndSilicone on
Fascism isn’t coming to America. It’s there.
What are y’all gonna do about it?
phosdick on
>However, the passenger, Joshua Orta, died in an unrelated car crash over the weekend.
I hope it really was unrelated, but… people who contradict government narratives these days seem to have a short life span.
StarStruck3 on
Is this our equivalent to someone „falling out a window“, now?
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This looks really bad. This is the sort of headline you expect to come out of Russia.
> The only passenger in the car when an American citizen was shot and killed by a federal officer in South Texas last year had planned to speak up and contradict the government’s account of the shooting. However, the passenger, Joshua Orta, died in an unrelated car crash over the weekend.
>Mr. Orta, 25, was in the passenger seat on March 15, 2025, when his childhood friend, Ruben Ray Martinez, 23, was shot multiple times in South Padre Island by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer after the authorities said he failed to comply with commands to exit his vehicle.
>In a written statement obtained by The New York Times, Mr. Orta said that the two men had offered no resistance to law enforcement officers and were trying to comply with commands to turn around the car when the situation got out of control and Mr. Martinez was shot.
That is incredibly suspicious. Timing couldn’t be worse for accountability.
It’s only surprising that he didn’t fall out of a window.
What a coincidence.
Convenient
At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump himself caused the highway collision that killed Orta.
„Accident“ doing a lot of the heavy lifting in that sentence.
I feel like we are living in Russia.
Key witnesses just dying from suicide or car accidents.
Won’t be long now before we start seeing key witnesses falling in the bathroom and breaking their neck and dying that way with 30 stab wounds in the back.
Aren’t statements from dead witnesses allowable in court?
No tall buildings nearby?
That’s not suspicious at all.
would they have wanted to be buried on a golf course?
Stoopid paywall!
It’s well known that three letter agencies can access cars and “suicide” people?
Putin’s playbook. Car accidents are the American version of falling out of windows in Russia.
Ruben Ray Martinez Update: Passenger in ICE Shooting Dies in Car Crash – Newsweek https://share.google/NNzZTNK33FeCuhRxM
This. Timeline. Fucking. Blows.
That’s not suspicious at all.
Reminds me of the Rep. Massie „I am not going to hurt myself…the brakes on my car and truck work fine…“ tweet
If you drive a car manufactured after about 2010 and someone in the government wants you dead… well you could ask Michael Hastings what happens
We’re at the falling out of windows, mysterious car accidents, healthy person has a heart attack, etc. phase of Authoritarianism.
I will say for the second time on Reddit within the last couple weeks: Car accidents / getting hit by a car sure do seem like the American version of falling out a window, don’t they?
„car accident“
Well, what are the specifics on the car accident?
While I agree this is extremely suspicious—do these guys need to actually kill anyone? There is video of the shooting of Pretti. There were lots of witnesses. No one has been held accountable and I doubt the far right even thinks the killing was wrong. Why would they need to do anything to a witness?
Yes, the police said he fell down an elevator shaft onto some bullets. They said it was an accident.
just like Epstein victims, people who are willing to testify against ICE are going to all die in mysterious circumstances.
This is the kinda shit you see in a bad movie… All of it, the whole thing.
So did the Trump administration do the same thing they did to Epstein?
Do not question things that happen in Russia 2.0…
Surprised the witness didn’t “fall out of the window”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MK0SrxBC1xs
This is evil people trying to get away with their crimes and intimidating them. They need to be brought to justice
The only reason I don’t think ICE murdered Joshua Orta too is that they don’t give a fuck if everyone knows they murdered Ruben Ray Martinez, so long as they don’t face a consequence. They’re on tape planning to ram Marimar Martinez, then doing so, and then shooting her five times, and testifying she hit them. It made no difference all.
The USA has done so many real actual conspiratorial stuff, let’s stop making shit up when they’re literally kidnapping people off the streets, overthrowing foreign nations, etc
Add another one to the Trump body count
Does anyone have a link to the article without a paywall?
Fascism isn’t coming to America. It’s there.
What are y’all gonna do about it?
>However, the passenger, Joshua Orta, died in an unrelated car crash over the weekend.
I hope it really was unrelated, but… people who contradict government narratives these days seem to have a short life span.
Is this our equivalent to someone „falling out a window“, now?