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  1. transcriptoin_error on

    This looks really bad. This is the sort of headline you expect to come out of Russia.

    > The only passenger in the car when an American citizen was shot and killed by a federal officer in South Texas last year had planned to speak up and contradict the government’s account of the shooting. However, the passenger, Joshua Orta, died in an unrelated car crash over the weekend.

    >Mr. Orta, 25, was in the passenger seat on March 15, 2025, when his childhood friend, Ruben Ray Martinez, 23, was shot multiple times in South Padre Island by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer after the authorities said he failed to comply with commands to exit his vehicle.

    >In a written statement obtained by The New York Times, Mr. Orta said that the two men had offered no resistance to law enforcement officers and were trying to comply with commands to turn around the car when the situation got out of control and Mr. Martinez was shot.

  2. kamalhusta16 on

    That is incredibly suspicious. Timing couldn’t be worse for accountability.

  3. Prestigious-Carry907 on

    At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump himself caused the highway collision that killed Orta.

  4. NexusNickel on

    I feel like we are living in Russia.

    Key witnesses just dying from suicide or car accidents.

    Won’t be long now before we start seeing key witnesses falling in the bathroom and breaking their neck and dying that way with 30 stab wounds in the back.

  5. It’s well known that three letter agencies can access cars and “suicide” people?

  6. Putin’s playbook. Car accidents are the American version of falling out of windows in Russia.

  7. Reminds me of the Rep. Massie „I am not going to hurt myself…the brakes on my car and truck work fine…“ tweet

  8. 0masterdebater0 on

    If you drive a car manufactured after about 2010 and someone in the government wants you dead… well you could ask Michael Hastings what happens

  9. dull_shimmer on

    We’re at the falling out of windows, mysterious car accidents, healthy person has a heart attack, etc. phase of Authoritarianism.

  10. I will say for the second time on Reddit within the last couple weeks: Car accidents / getting hit by a car sure do seem like the American version of falling out a window, don’t they?

  11. While I agree this is extremely suspicious—do these guys need to actually kill anyone? There is video of the shooting of Pretti. There were lots of witnesses. No one has been held accountable and I doubt the far right even thinks the killing was wrong. Why would they need to do anything to a witness?

  12. Defiant_Chipmunk2570 on

    Yes, the police said he fell down an elevator shaft onto some bullets. They said it was an accident.

  13. turb0_encapsulator on

    just like Epstein victims, people who are willing to testify against ICE are going to all die in mysterious circumstances.

  14. Gear_Wrench_Dead on

    This is the kinda shit you see in a bad movie… All of it, the whole thing.

  15. Tight-Shallot2461 on

    This is evil people trying to get away with their crimes and intimidating them. They need to be brought to justice

  16. clickmagnet on

    The only reason I don’t think ICE murdered Joshua Orta too is that they don’t give a fuck if everyone knows they murdered Ruben Ray Martinez, so long as they don’t face a consequence. They’re on tape planning to ram Marimar Martinez, then doing so, and then shooting her five times, and testifying she hit them. It made no difference all. 

  17. GoggleDMara9756 on

    The USA has done so many real actual conspiratorial stuff, let’s stop making shit up when they’re literally kidnapping people off the streets, overthrowing foreign nations, etc

  18. CedarSageAndSilicone on

    Fascism isn’t coming to America. It’s there.

    What are y’all gonna do about it?

  19. >However, the passenger, Joshua Orta, died in an unrelated car crash over the weekend.

    I hope it really was unrelated, but… people who contradict government narratives these days seem to have a short life span.

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