Well it could have been worse for him, so there is that.
TheLoneBlrReader on
he can win the next elections and pardon himself
Adhonaj on
Hmm hello USA, all your pretty amendments you so proud of couldn’t lead to the same outcome after the 6th January but it should have. You better fix that asap!
Ok_Razzmatazz_8589 on
Mmmm. He probably thought it was the US and could get away with it, but Koreans are educated, so he got hit with life in prison.
NA_0_10_never_forget on
It is so weird how they actually struck down hard on a politician who, while having committed serious crimes, still isn’t as bad as politicians elsewhere who usually get off scot-free after having committed even worse crimes, or are actively committing them with public knowledge.
Deserved tho
insane677 on
Lord, I’ve seen what you’ve done for others….
Forsaken-Tour6447 on
He will definitely not be pardoned.
Many people misunderstand pardons. In korea, The reason for granting a pardon is to appeal to the centrist voters.
In South Korea, the political landscape is roughly 35% left, 30% center, and 35% right. To become president, one must win over the centrists, who usually value unity and rationality. In other words, when a president holds power, the expectation is not to crush opponents but to show inclusiveness, forgive, and work toward national unity.
The problem arises here: would a government grant a pardon to an insurrectionist in order to achieve national unity, show inclusiveness, and win over centrist voters? This is something a left-leaning government would not do, and it is almost equally impossible for a right-leaning government. In South Korea, the right wing has already faced massive criticism over the martial law period. And a pardon for someone who led an insurrection for vote? Would that pardon align with national unity and reasonableness? No, it would not. That’s impossible.
In reality, the situation is quite the opposite. The current ruling government is opposed to the insurrectionists and is deliberating whether to push forward legislation to prevent pardons for insurrectionists.. Public opinion is divided, and the centrists currently desire unity, making it difficult to pass such a law. The government has enough seats to move forward and could do so, but they are hesitant because of potential public backlash.
If he were to be pardoned, it would probably only happen when he’s very old, right before his death.
KonstantinePhoenix on
So, besides Moon Jae-in, has any other President of South Korea not had some significant jail time attached to them.
Or corruption,
or bribery
or just bad luck…
or, just something attached to them…
EDIT: ELI5.
I am actually curious here, and asking.
ELI5.
Juract on
Meaning two years top considering how old he already is.
IntelligentMoney2 on
Fucker deserves the death penalty. He caused a massive bad ripple effect in Korea. Learn this Americans. This is what happens to traitors. However, the real trial will be how long he ACTUALLY serves. If you need context, look at all the people in power that were tried.
doninside on
This is how you deal with an attempted coup, not re-electing the guy
chilling_hedgehog on
See America? This is how you do democracy, not by going to the middle east to shoot brown kids!
corriefan1 on
Sigh.
canada_mountains on
So many South Koreans refuse to admit what he did was wrong. It’s like a repeat with what Trump did on January 6th. Fortunately, there were enough South Koreans to recognize what he did was wrong in the last election, and the supreme court in South Korea also recognized what he did was wrong. But still, the result of the last South Korean election was unnerving. It wasn’t a blowout, and it should have been a blowout. A significant portion of South Korean voters seem to be okay if their president commits a crime, just not as bad as almost a majority of voters in the US were fine with Trump committing crimes.
whawkins4 on
See. Other nations can hold would-be tyrants accountable. Why can’t we?
NaCl-more on
I really don’t understand why he did what he did. Was it ever going to end any other way?
Acceptable_Golf5607 on
Will probably be house detention.
Sensei_of_Philosophy on
Take notes, America. Take fucking notes.
Icy-Yak5875 on
Should have been the death penalty as the prosecution requested.
According to the court, his sentence was reduced because 1. He lived a fairly peaceful life prior to the crime. 2. He’s old. 3. His stupidity didn’t allow him to succeed.
The 3rd reason has to sting a little
Crappler319 on
Must be fucking nice.
cololz1 on
I guess he just got Bolsanaroed
taskpilot94 on
Whether you agree with him or not, a life sentence for a former president over a coup attempt is a serious statement about institutional strength. The real story here is how stable democracies handle power when it’s abused.
irishfro on
He’ll get pardoned by the next administration
limbodog on
Now they’re just showing off
The_Rational_Gooner on
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About time.
Well it could have been worse for him, so there is that.
he can win the next elections and pardon himself
Hmm hello USA, all your pretty amendments you so proud of couldn’t lead to the same outcome after the 6th January but it should have. You better fix that asap!
Mmmm. He probably thought it was the US and could get away with it, but Koreans are educated, so he got hit with life in prison.
It is so weird how they actually struck down hard on a politician who, while having committed serious crimes, still isn’t as bad as politicians elsewhere who usually get off scot-free after having committed even worse crimes, or are actively committing them with public knowledge.
Deserved tho
Lord, I’ve seen what you’ve done for others….
He will definitely not be pardoned.
Many people misunderstand pardons. In korea, The reason for granting a pardon is to appeal to the centrist voters.
In South Korea, the political landscape is roughly 35% left, 30% center, and 35% right. To become president, one must win over the centrists, who usually value unity and rationality. In other words, when a president holds power, the expectation is not to crush opponents but to show inclusiveness, forgive, and work toward national unity.
The problem arises here: would a government grant a pardon to an insurrectionist in order to achieve national unity, show inclusiveness, and win over centrist voters? This is something a left-leaning government would not do, and it is almost equally impossible for a right-leaning government. In South Korea, the right wing has already faced massive criticism over the martial law period. And a pardon for someone who led an insurrection for vote? Would that pardon align with national unity and reasonableness? No, it would not. That’s impossible.
In reality, the situation is quite the opposite. The current ruling government is opposed to the insurrectionists and is deliberating whether to push forward legislation to prevent pardons for insurrectionists.. Public opinion is divided, and the centrists currently desire unity, making it difficult to pass such a law. The government has enough seats to move forward and could do so, but they are hesitant because of potential public backlash.
If he were to be pardoned, it would probably only happen when he’s very old, right before his death.
So, besides Moon Jae-in, has any other President of South Korea not had some significant jail time attached to them.
Or corruption,
or bribery
or just bad luck…
or, just something attached to them…
EDIT: ELI5.
I am actually curious here, and asking.
ELI5.
Meaning two years top considering how old he already is.
Fucker deserves the death penalty. He caused a massive bad ripple effect in Korea. Learn this Americans. This is what happens to traitors. However, the real trial will be how long he ACTUALLY serves. If you need context, look at all the people in power that were tried.
This is how you deal with an attempted coup, not re-electing the guy
See America? This is how you do democracy, not by going to the middle east to shoot brown kids!
Sigh.
So many South Koreans refuse to admit what he did was wrong. It’s like a repeat with what Trump did on January 6th. Fortunately, there were enough South Koreans to recognize what he did was wrong in the last election, and the supreme court in South Korea also recognized what he did was wrong. But still, the result of the last South Korean election was unnerving. It wasn’t a blowout, and it should have been a blowout. A significant portion of South Korean voters seem to be okay if their president commits a crime, just not as bad as almost a majority of voters in the US were fine with Trump committing crimes.
See. Other nations can hold would-be tyrants accountable. Why can’t we?
I really don’t understand why he did what he did. Was it ever going to end any other way?
Will probably be house detention.
Take notes, America. Take fucking notes.
Should have been the death penalty as the prosecution requested.
According to the court, his sentence was reduced because 1. He lived a fairly peaceful life prior to the crime. 2. He’s old. 3. His stupidity didn’t allow him to succeed.
The 3rd reason has to sting a little
Must be fucking nice.
I guess he just got Bolsanaroed
Whether you agree with him or not, a life sentence for a former president over a coup attempt is a serious statement about institutional strength. The real story here is how stable democracies handle power when it’s abused.
He’ll get pardoned by the next administration
Now they’re just showing off
Fairs