Vier Millionen britische Haushalte verdienen „nicht genug für ein menschenwürdiges Leben“
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/four-million-uk-households-earning-decent-life-5HjdSTp_2/
Von tylerthe-theatre
Vier Millionen britische Haushalte verdienen „nicht genug für ein menschenwürdiges Leben“
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/four-million-uk-households-earning-decent-life-5HjdSTp_2/
Von tylerthe-theatre
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Only 4m? From where I sit it looks like working or not working, unless really in the upper echelons of income, provides a very similar standard of living.
And it’ll get worse.
It’s often said that the problem with socialism is that you run out of other people’s money but the real problem is with state capitalism, where you run out of public assets to sell.
Hardly earning enough for a life let alone a decent life
Wages are shit in this country and everything is through the roof
No Shit with new taxes and increase of existing taxes. While the tax allowance stays the same for the past god knows how many year, they have the audacity to keep increasing and raising new ones
£70,500 as the minimum standard for a household with 2 children is interesting, I assume that’s salary pre-tax? Article doesn’t say
Don’t worry, I’m sure increasing the minimum wage once again will fix all this!
*Everything else goes up in price so you’re no better off*
Oh, well at least people who are above minimum wage get a little bump!
*They don’t, wages get compressed even more*
Ah…
Edit: I’m not saying minimum wage going up is bad, it’s good in and of itself, it’s just every company sees this as an opportunity to either raise prices or refuse to increase their current employees wages.
“Oh what’s that? You have a slightly bigger income? Well fuck you buddy, we just raised prices to offset that rise and increase our margins”
I also hate how raising the minimum seems to be the government’s answer for cost of living, when it should be about reigning in these parasitical companies that are bleeding us dry.
We have one of the highest in the world, if it’s *still* not making a damn bit of difference, maybe the answer lies elsewhere?
I don’t think the wages are shit per se but more that everything is overpriced. The UK economy is a classic Anglo economy setup around rentierism i.e. extracting money from working people and small businesses, it’s why everything is seemingly collapsing together as it’s linked –> People in Anglo societies don’t have a lot of expendable income left after rent/mortgage so they have to pinch. Small businesses are reliant on footfall traffic and spurious consumption, as people can’t spend they have to raise prices to pay exuberant business rates and rent… so what happens when everything collapses, private equity swoops in and buys things up on the cheap and then it becomes soulless and pointless after that. Town centres collapse, communities collapse, third spaces collapse,etc… It’s a vicious cycle and as long as we don’t get some serious redistributive policies implemented, it will get worse
This comes as no surprise to me at all.
We’ve had decades of the mass sale of state owned assets, an economy created to enrich the already richest 1%…. All the while scapegoating minorities – especially – those struggling with disabilities and being on benefits…. to create distraction from the fire sale of state assets and an economy designed for the richest.
What this article reports is the result. Without fundamental reforms to level the economic and societal ‘playing field’, and with the rise of AI and tech feudalism, I’m very concerned it could get worse.
>The CRSP research, funded by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation (JRF), suggested there were 4.2 million working households living below the minimum income standard (MIS) in 2023/24.
>This is more than two-thirds (68.5%) of all households living below the standard, and has risen from just over half of households in that situation in 2008/09
Tory legacy just keeps on delivering.
Look at the correlation between this and the multiplier of the c-suite wages versus the average worker. We don’t need to tax the top 1% more. We need the top 1% to actually pay everyone else more for their labour, the top 1% are taking too much out of the system for their productivity they offer, whereas everyone else is getting underpaid for their labour.
And the rest! Neoliberalism and inequality isn’t the poor souls arriving on boats, it’s the ones with massive yachts.
Supposedly all due to the war in Ukraine and Covid if you ask the government
This is normal for capitalism…
>“The original mercantilists were advocates of the “utility of poverty” thesis. They believed that there was a positive side to poverty and that the State should create and maintain poverty as a way to increase the volume of exportable output. Workers were to accept enforced poverty as a necessary foundation for national prosperity. The nation needed a diligent and hard-working workforce but the nation had no duty to pay workers well – on the contrary it was the duty of workers to accept subsistence wages for the sake of the nation.“–[Six Centuries of Vilifying the Poor](https://web.archive.org/web/20161116042145/http://www.pieria.co.uk/articles/mercantilism_six_centuries_of_vilifying_the_poor/). David Spencer.
The real issue isn’t that wages are too low — it’s a housing shortage. Even if wages went up, rents would rise too, because there are still too many people chasing too few properties and people would still be struggling.
No surprise when
Council tax goes up 5% a year
Electric goes up every year
Water rates have skyrocketed
BBC con licence fee has risen
House prices keep going up
Tax income amount has not risen for so long that even part timers ard on tax
Inflation keeps putting items up
And many more
Compare that to the few pence some people get extra a hour every year (if they are lucky)
That decent life may have been a blip in UK history. It’s not the norm for the last thousand years.
And I bet the majority of them made the wrong choices in life, like having kids they could not afford
It’s genuinely shocking how many people are working full-time yet still struggling to just get by.
We earn a lot of money and we don’t have a great life tbh
The MIS quoted is £74k it seems like quite a lot? Also no wonder when 1in 5 working aged Brits isn’t working and classed as economically i!active
Joseph Rowntree foundation’s minimum income standard is defined as the amount someone needs to earn to be able to „participate in society.“ It currently sits at 30 grand, and as a „key worker“ in social care I don’t meet it.
Well duh. Wages have remained stagnant since 2008, yet everything gets more and more expensive. The middle classes are even struggling. It’s ridiculous. What do the capitalists expect to happen when no one has enough money to buy their extortionately-priced shit? The whole thing will collapse in on itself, if us peasants don’t revolt first. Not surprising at all that less and less people are having kids. For the wealthy at the top, that means less peasants to prop up their pyramid. Why have kids when we’re barely surviving, just existing, like Sisyphus rolling that stone up the hill for nothing?
That seems low
What are the classing as a decent life?
If expericne is anything to do by, il be classed as having a decent life in work, but I have literally nothing left at the end of each month,.I’m only surviving because my car is paid off. If it died I’m fucked
Edit* after reading more, I do apparently nee the threshold for having a decent life…by abou £500 a year
Story of life life, always just a bawhair into being considered „doing ok“.missed out on the bursarys etc too in the
E last by about the same amount
Just today the BBC says inflation is down to 3%. Everything must alright, right?
Describe a decent life without making a click bait headline, please.
VERY concerned about this.
Is it a combination of factors? Failed government efforts? Brexit? Immigrants?
I don’t mean to point a finger at anyone, I just want to understand what went wrong and what can be done.
Don’t worry with Reform these people will have min wage removed so their jobs can pay them less. They can then use whatever pennies they have remaining to go towards their amazing new health insurance plan which they won’t be able to afford so if their are any out of work drs, or fired drs for misconduct etc, they can go to those clinics instead. And when their elderly grandparents can no longer be looked after as we deported all foreigners, they can stay at home and look after their own grandparents
But don’t worry the people with a bit money will just have similar issues, they maybe able to afford their health insurance but as the NHS was made up of 19% foreigners and we were already understaffed, they’ll be paying for something even worse than the NHS until a few decades later when we have trained our own nurses and doctors…that’s if they can afford to train as no doubt we’ll have to increase college and uni fees with less foreigners coming here to study so we need to keep our universties open by you paying more.