This is because some of these AI companies refuse to collaborate with the government for surveillance and data collection.
BeatMastaD on
The line is too blurry to implement. If you are against your product being used for their stated limits you just cant work with the DoW. Its impossible to isolate distribution and usage within programs so its really either in or out. Even the managerial work done in DoW is all in support of weapons development, surveillance, or violence enabling.
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aurizon on
Sadly, we know what happens when you take a knife to a gunfight. We know Russia/China/North Korea will rush head long into AI weapon craft, not matter how we limit dense/fast AI chips. As noble as it sounds – It is not noble, it is foolish. We have seen what happened when iron met bronze, or when tanks met horses(WW1) and later on when Panzers met WW1 tanks in WW2, and now we see how drones are defeating tanks.
Hiding your head in a hole will not protect you, as it did not(as rumored) protect the Ostritch.
So the Pentagon is right = no knives to gunfights for me!!
No_Size9475 on
Anthropic only said they don’t want it used for live targeting and mass surveillance of citizens.
Evidently that was too much for Kegsbreath.
jrdnmdhl on
The government not buying a technology because the manufacturer puts their own limits on it is totally fine. Ultimately, in a well-functioning government, the political process dictates those limits not private companies.
As always, the real problems here are:
(1) This administration can never be trusted with anything
(2) The use of totally unrelated government authority to punish companies (not buying from them is fine, but threatening unrelated regulatory action would be very very bad)
(3) AI is being used in deeply reckless ways
rnilf on
> In January, tensions came to a head after an executive at Anthropic reportedly reached out to an executive at Palantir to ask whether it had used the company’s Claude AI assistant as part of the U.S. military raid to capture Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro. (Spoiler alert: it did.)
Palantir ran and told on Anthropic to daddy Trump.
How fucking pathetic.
Oceanbreeze871 on
Why can’t they do what every other defense contractor does and take the money and then take forever yo not deliver anything functional….saying the program
Needs more as more money?
tom21g on
> A senior Trump administration official told Axios Monday that the Pentagon was fed up after Anthropic refused unfettered use of its AI systems.
Not „the Pentagon“. trump and Miller. Hegseth carries the water for them.
TriggerHydrant on
yo leave Claude alone!!
QueenOfQuok on
Whoever wins, we lose
WatRedditHathWrought on
“A spokesperson for Anthropic denied that such a conversation had taken place in a statement to Axios, saying the company had “not discussed the use of Claude for specific operations with the Department of War.”
What about conversations with the **Department of Defense?** You know, the actual name of the department.
virtual-telecom on
2 words use – Deep Seek
LandonDev on
„Our nation requires that our partners be willing to help our warfighters win in any fight“ – this is referring to them using autonomous weapons without human intervention. I cannot imagine a situation where it’s a positive thing for non-human weapons to work by itself unless they planned on using those weapons in a way that humans would find distasteful or disagree with. It sounds like the DOJ is trying to plan an attack against US Citizens or bypass a certain level of restrictions on the person to person illegal order rejection for nukes potentially.
This is absolutely terrifying.
logosobscura on
See ya in court, Keggy.
Oh, and those MIC stock transactions you made, and the front running trades? Yeah, absolutely germane and absolutely covered under discovery rules for establishing corrupt intent. Got tell ya boys at RTX.
ascandalia on
Enable fascists to get more power and they own you. Congratulations silicone valley, you supported this
Direlion on
The good news is that the documentary film called The Terminator, we learned recklessly greedy corporations and the US government joined forces to bring AI to the military, leading to the near total destruction of the world and the human race.
cleverghost on
I hope people are starting to realize the dangers of unethical AI use.
If I were Anthropic or Palantir, I would sever ties. Take the hit, and start applying their CV knowledge to something that benefits people.
mcmnky on
Do we have this from a reputable source? The USA does not have a „Department of War.“ It’s the Department of Defense until Congress says otherwise. Any media that uses DoW, even when prefaced with „so called“ is somewhere below The Onion in trustworthyness.
FeralVomit on
All AI companies should have Anthropic’s stance. This should not be terrifying. Stand on morals, assholes.
Iceman_B on
So they are…..saying out loud….they WANT THE TOOLS to break every privacy law you could conceivably think of?
qckpckt on
“You’re absolutely right, those were innocent American citizens. I’ll enter Plan mode and come up with a revised set of instructions for the bomb-civilians skill that will ensure this doesn’t happen again.”
DrBix on
Looks like I’m switching to Anthropic. That was easy.
Ok-Party-3033 on
“Mr Hegseth, you are mistaken.
We are Anthropic. I suggest you go down the street to our competitor, Misanthropic.”
mensrea on
Only terrifying if they’re cowards.
Efficient_Education4 on
It’s going to happen and we are fxxx
classycatman on
This makes me want to use Anthropic even more…
captainfishhooks on
Dying agency scratching and clawing to stay relevant
wowlock_taylan on
Palantir is a threat to the WHOLE WORLD.
I mean, it is literally named after the seeing stones from Lord of the Rings that Saruman and Sauron uses. They are not hiding their evil.
acostane on
Shut all this shit TF down. Honestly.
We’re fucking ourselves over SO HARD
Gloria_S_Birdhair on
Is this not just another tech bubble waiting to burst?
VariableVeritas on
Access to the military will be a double edged sword for tech companies. Once you’re integrated into secretive systems they’ll take whatever they want under the guise of national security.
WordplayWizard on
I don’t want to read the article.
Can anyone confirm if the message was:
“All your base are belong to us”
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This is because some of these AI companies refuse to collaborate with the government for surveillance and data collection.
The line is too blurry to implement. If you are against your product being used for their stated limits you just cant work with the DoW. Its impossible to isolate distribution and usage within programs so its really either in or out. Even the managerial work done in DoW is all in support of weapons development, surveillance, or violence enabling.
[deleted]
Sadly, we know what happens when you take a knife to a gunfight. We know Russia/China/North Korea will rush head long into AI weapon craft, not matter how we limit dense/fast AI chips. As noble as it sounds – It is not noble, it is foolish. We have seen what happened when iron met bronze, or when tanks met horses(WW1) and later on when Panzers met WW1 tanks in WW2, and now we see how drones are defeating tanks.
Hiding your head in a hole will not protect you, as it did not(as rumored) protect the Ostritch.
So the Pentagon is right = no knives to gunfights for me!!
Anthropic only said they don’t want it used for live targeting and mass surveillance of citizens.
Evidently that was too much for Kegsbreath.
The government not buying a technology because the manufacturer puts their own limits on it is totally fine. Ultimately, in a well-functioning government, the political process dictates those limits not private companies.
As always, the real problems here are:
(1) This administration can never be trusted with anything
(2) The use of totally unrelated government authority to punish companies (not buying from them is fine, but threatening unrelated regulatory action would be very very bad)
(3) AI is being used in deeply reckless ways
> In January, tensions came to a head after an executive at Anthropic reportedly reached out to an executive at Palantir to ask whether it had used the company’s Claude AI assistant as part of the U.S. military raid to capture Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro. (Spoiler alert: it did.)
Palantir ran and told on Anthropic to daddy Trump.
How fucking pathetic.
Why can’t they do what every other defense contractor does and take the money and then take forever yo not deliver anything functional….saying the program
Needs more as more money?
> A senior Trump administration official told Axios Monday that the Pentagon was fed up after Anthropic refused unfettered use of its AI systems.
Not „the Pentagon“. trump and Miller. Hegseth carries the water for them.
yo leave Claude alone!!
Whoever wins, we lose
“A spokesperson for Anthropic denied that such a conversation had taken place in a statement to Axios, saying the company had “not discussed the use of Claude for specific operations with the Department of War.”
What about conversations with the **Department of Defense?** You know, the actual name of the department.
2 words use – Deep Seek
„Our nation requires that our partners be willing to help our warfighters win in any fight“ – this is referring to them using autonomous weapons without human intervention. I cannot imagine a situation where it’s a positive thing for non-human weapons to work by itself unless they planned on using those weapons in a way that humans would find distasteful or disagree with. It sounds like the DOJ is trying to plan an attack against US Citizens or bypass a certain level of restrictions on the person to person illegal order rejection for nukes potentially.
This is absolutely terrifying.
See ya in court, Keggy.
Oh, and those MIC stock transactions you made, and the front running trades? Yeah, absolutely germane and absolutely covered under discovery rules for establishing corrupt intent. Got tell ya boys at RTX.
Enable fascists to get more power and they own you. Congratulations silicone valley, you supported this
The good news is that the documentary film called The Terminator, we learned recklessly greedy corporations and the US government joined forces to bring AI to the military, leading to the near total destruction of the world and the human race.
I hope people are starting to realize the dangers of unethical AI use.
If I were Anthropic or Palantir, I would sever ties. Take the hit, and start applying their CV knowledge to something that benefits people.
Do we have this from a reputable source? The USA does not have a „Department of War.“ It’s the Department of Defense until Congress says otherwise. Any media that uses DoW, even when prefaced with „so called“ is somewhere below The Onion in trustworthyness.
All AI companies should have Anthropic’s stance. This should not be terrifying. Stand on morals, assholes.
So they are…..saying out loud….they WANT THE TOOLS to break every privacy law you could conceivably think of?
“You’re absolutely right, those were innocent American citizens. I’ll enter Plan mode and come up with a revised set of instructions for the bomb-civilians skill that will ensure this doesn’t happen again.”
Looks like I’m switching to Anthropic. That was easy.
“Mr Hegseth, you are mistaken.
We are Anthropic. I suggest you go down the street to our competitor, Misanthropic.”
Only terrifying if they’re cowards.
It’s going to happen and we are fxxx
This makes me want to use Anthropic even more…
Dying agency scratching and clawing to stay relevant
Palantir is a threat to the WHOLE WORLD.
I mean, it is literally named after the seeing stones from Lord of the Rings that Saruman and Sauron uses. They are not hiding their evil.
Shut all this shit TF down. Honestly.
We’re fucking ourselves over SO HARD
Is this not just another tech bubble waiting to burst?
Access to the military will be a double edged sword for tech companies. Once you’re integrated into secretive systems they’ll take whatever they want under the guise of national security.
I don’t want to read the article.
Can anyone confirm if the message was:
“All your base are belong to us”