What? Greece was never part of the Turkish Empire! /s
Electronic-Tea-3691 on
yo mama so fat she covered more land area than the Ottoman Empire in 1683 at its greatest extent… yeah I guess that one doesn’t really work
I probably would have zoomed this map in considering that the vast majority of it is not under ottoman rule…
Curmadgeon on
History has a way of making things right, just saying.
Hail_to_the_Nidoking on
0/10 would not recommend.
excaliju9403 on
just before one siege of vienna too far
Dull-Nectarine380 on
They had more of sudan and western persia
Used_Tale9203 on
You can still see in Hungary that parts that have never been occupied by the Turks are more developed
BatPersonal6259 on
Let me rephrase for you, map of genocidal Turkic colonialism by Turkic central Asian settlers living on stolen Anatolian lands took through racial cleansing
Visible_Factor_1234 on
Very interesting to see old empire of that time to always have land around the water
Useless_or_inept on
We’ve had one siege of Vienna, yes. But what about *second* siege of Vienna?
AlexRyang on
I do find it interesting how similar it lines up with Roman control of this region.
Apprehensive-Bear655 on
👍🏽
Odd_Bodybuilder_4772 on
You can see the outlines of modern day Croatia borders.
CataphractBunny on
Fuck the Ottomans.
Lothronion on
The southernmost leg of the Peloponnese, the Mani Peninsula, was not part of the domain of the Ottoman Sultanate, but instead a sovereign state (with only fringe cantons being vassal to the Ottoman Porte). In fact, in 1683 AD its political leadership was in close communication with the Venetian Republic for the preparations of the Sixth Ottoman–Venetian War (1684-1699 AD), and specifically the front of the Morean War.
At the time they were in negotiations over the form of the Venetian-Maniot alliance, and the number of troops each side would provide. Eventually they would agree in a joint campaign, where the Venetians would bring their Christian Armada, of about 12,000 troops (Venetians, other Italians, Dalmatian Slavs, German mercenaries, Maltese knights, etc.), and the Maniots would contribute with 15,000 troops. The latter were also pressuring the former for possession of key-points deemed as important for their security, such as the Malean Peninsula and especially Monemvasia, but ultimately this never happened, and at most the Venetian Morean Kingdom would respect the boundaries of the Maniot Commonwealth (but not without trying to pressure some Northern Maniot cantons to pay taxes to them, resulting in them waging large raids in Messenia and Laconia).
Toby-Finkelstein on
We should just call it the Turkish colonial period
KingKohishi on
Since the Princes of Walachia, Moldavia and Transylvania were appointed by the Ottoman governor, they were vassals.
Grime_Fandango_ on
This was such an ugly looking time for nation state boundaries. Especially in Europe. Just a total mess. Not to be a hater, but I’m not a big fan of the shape of the Ottoman Empire either. Give me Roman Empire, Persian Empire, hell even the Umayyad Caliphate over this long slithering nonsense.
Worldly_Camp4460 on
Until a few polish chevaliers arrive 😁

Limp-Tea3778 on
1- Not the greatest’s extent map
2- HEAVILY underestimates Ottoman control; They had more of Africa, Red sea coasts, Hejaz, Iranian Gulf coasts and They had yemen, west persia and georgia.
DecmysterwasTaken on
Winged Hussars: Let me stop you right there, save us all precious time
Eris13x on
No Aceh, sad
Fehervari on
That’s quite obviously not 1683
madDamon_ on
Finally a map that shows how the rest of the empires looked at the time instead of where the borders are nowadays
Comfortable_Cod_1579 on
OP is wrong.
The Ottoman’s reached their territorial peak in the 19th century with Muhammed Ali’s (then governor of the Ottoman Empire) expansion southwards.
1590 borders are also much larger than what is shown. It included everything until Yemen and western Iran + caucasus.
raulsj_m on
It kinda reminds me of Justinian’s empire.
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What? Greece was never part of the Turkish Empire! /s
yo mama so fat she covered more land area than the Ottoman Empire in 1683 at its greatest extent… yeah I guess that one doesn’t really work
I probably would have zoomed this map in considering that the vast majority of it is not under ottoman rule…
History has a way of making things right, just saying.
0/10 would not recommend.
just before one siege of vienna too far
They had more of sudan and western persia
You can still see in Hungary that parts that have never been occupied by the Turks are more developed
Let me rephrase for you, map of genocidal Turkic colonialism by Turkic central Asian settlers living on stolen Anatolian lands took through racial cleansing
Very interesting to see old empire of that time to always have land around the water
We’ve had one siege of Vienna, yes. But what about *second* siege of Vienna?
I do find it interesting how similar it lines up with Roman control of this region.
👍🏽
You can see the outlines of modern day Croatia borders.
Fuck the Ottomans.
The southernmost leg of the Peloponnese, the Mani Peninsula, was not part of the domain of the Ottoman Sultanate, but instead a sovereign state (with only fringe cantons being vassal to the Ottoman Porte). In fact, in 1683 AD its political leadership was in close communication with the Venetian Republic for the preparations of the Sixth Ottoman–Venetian War (1684-1699 AD), and specifically the front of the Morean War.
At the time they were in negotiations over the form of the Venetian-Maniot alliance, and the number of troops each side would provide. Eventually they would agree in a joint campaign, where the Venetians would bring their Christian Armada, of about 12,000 troops (Venetians, other Italians, Dalmatian Slavs, German mercenaries, Maltese knights, etc.), and the Maniots would contribute with 15,000 troops. The latter were also pressuring the former for possession of key-points deemed as important for their security, such as the Malean Peninsula and especially Monemvasia, but ultimately this never happened, and at most the Venetian Morean Kingdom would respect the boundaries of the Maniot Commonwealth (but not without trying to pressure some Northern Maniot cantons to pay taxes to them, resulting in them waging large raids in Messenia and Laconia).
We should just call it the Turkish colonial period
Since the Princes of Walachia, Moldavia and Transylvania were appointed by the Ottoman governor, they were vassals.
This was such an ugly looking time for nation state boundaries. Especially in Europe. Just a total mess. Not to be a hater, but I’m not a big fan of the shape of the Ottoman Empire either. Give me Roman Empire, Persian Empire, hell even the Umayyad Caliphate over this long slithering nonsense.
Until a few polish chevaliers arrive 😁

1- Not the greatest’s extent map
2- HEAVILY underestimates Ottoman control; They had more of Africa, Red sea coasts, Hejaz, Iranian Gulf coasts and They had yemen, west persia and georgia.
Winged Hussars: Let me stop you right there, save us all precious time
No Aceh, sad
That’s quite obviously not 1683
Finally a map that shows how the rest of the empires looked at the time instead of where the borders are nowadays
OP is wrong.
The Ottoman’s reached their territorial peak in the 19th century with Muhammed Ali’s (then governor of the Ottoman Empire) expansion southwards.
1590 borders are also much larger than what is shown. It included everything until Yemen and western Iran + caucasus.
It kinda reminds me of Justinian’s empire.