Kanada hat die Macht und das Geld, alle seine Busse zu elektrifizieren, sagt ein Hamilton-Forscher
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/bus-electrification-9.7085326
Kanada hat die Macht und das Geld, alle seine Busse zu elektrifizieren, sagt ein Hamilton-Forscher
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/bus-electrification-9.7085326
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I feel like that’s gonna be an issue if I’m sitting inside an electrified bus.
I can just do that at home with a fork and my toaster.
Great way to make Canadian cities quieter and have better air quality.
But what about Berta’s oil! /s
I haven’t looked in years, but the last time I checked out the comparison, e-buses were about 2.6 to 2.7x more expensive than standard diesel buses, weighed so much more that they did greater damage to softer roadway surfaces, and lost about 50% of their range in winter. Battery replacement and disposal was a major concern, too.
Ergo, I’d have to see this report to see if it accounts for everything it would need to account for in order to be truly valid. It’s not just whether we have the power and the money that needs to be considered.
What money. Were broke.
Canada has the power and money do to a lot of things, yet…
just because he’s a “researcher” doesn’t necessarily mean he’s intelligent or that his “research” is correct.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jamie-sarkonak-electric-buses-are-a-disaster-for-every-canadian-city-that-tries-them
Electric buses just aren’t as good as diesel buses yet. TTC tried in the past and found that they weren’t reliable enough.
Did you steal the power just like you cheat in curling?
Instead of an electric bus fleet, it’s possible to pay over a billion dollars for a limited Light Rail project, as Kitchener did.
Saskatoon just went through the process of looking and it would have been something like 3-4X more expensive to go electric than diesel. The electric buses would also still require diesel heaters to preserve range in the winter. Also they had some pretty troubling reliability issues with the few electric buses they purchased as a test. Ultimately for a growing city it made no sense to buy 1/3 of the buses that would have about 1/3 more downtime for charging than they could have just for the fact they were electric. It will go electric eventually but right not now with the cost factor.
This would be a total fucking disaster like all the other times its been tried in Canada. Go ask Edmonton how much of a boondoggle this is, and then save yourself the money and time. But because its been sanctified in the language of ‚green‘ I’m sure we’re going to waste billions on this anyway. Its ferda planet! Heavy metal mining for cars is good environments!
Didn’t we lose a bunch of money to an electric bus company that went bankrupt and the CEO cashed out all his shares and won the lottery on our dime? We want to do this more? Figures. Our money isn’t respected.
Last time I went to downtown Hamilton it felt more like Fallout than a land of money and power.
What I’m surprised is why it’s rare to see a hybrid system. Just a battery system to help accelerate the bus and then the engine takes over.
For some reason we prefer streetcars 🤮
Virtue signalling ain’t cheap , electric buses cost more, have significant operational issues , and in every case require large federal government money to come to a city near you. Lets fix aging roads, water mains etc. Then we can save the world.
Just because we can doesn’t mean we should
Id love to see their *in depth* data sources on this because lol, lmao even to their claim.
All those trolley buses in the landfills would like a word.
The headline kind of underplays the people behind the research, makes it sound like some guy in Hamilton just thought about this.
The Hamilton based ‘researcher’ is a professor in McMaster University’s department of civil engineering, who also directs the McMaster Institute for Transportation and Logistics. The university is a good engineering school.
Winnipeg based New Flyer is testing hydrogen fuel cell bus in Winnipeg.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Winnipeg/s/EaNCa3P1t9](https://www.reddit.com/r/Winnipeg/s/EaNCa3P1t9)
Canada has the power and money to do a lot of things. Unfortunately that often means that many people with a lot of money may have less of it as a result so we’re stuck in 2002
Far too expensive. In fact because of this they actually increase pollution. More cost means less buses, less buses means less service capacity, which means more people use cars, resulting in more pollution. The transit agency pollutes less but the rest of the community pollutes more.
Well this would be stupid. Better to wait for really small nuclear.
They don’t work in the prairies
Adding more routes, drivers and improve the service would be better from a carbon reduction perspective. Carbon footprint of a full bus is negligible when compared to 50 cars idling in traffic.
If the federal government is going to get involved in a nationwide bus overhaul program like this, it should make it so **transit regions can only be eligible for the program is their local electricity source doesn’t come from coal- or gas-fueled power plants**.
Places that still have fossil fuel power can apply for the same dollar value in funding, but for them the funds have to go toward building a nuclear, geothermal, or other eco-friendly electricity source before adding their entire bus fleet onto their electricity grid.
Did I get hit on the head one too many times or Isn’t buses a municipal thing? Why would he bring it up as if it’s a federal initiative
Except the electric buses only work for 3 hrs in Regina during cold weather. So do you buy 2 fleets of buses and exchange them like tires? A little more expensive than tires 🤷♀️