Paywalled, but I fail to see what this has to do with the AI bubble?
GoingAllTheJay on
Oh no, the guy you lobbied and voted for has tariffed your product and made everyone turn to china.
Who could have seen this coming!?
Slow_Marionberry4285 on
The collapse of EV isn’t a bubble. It’s a shift in policy
wbltz3 on
It didn’t spontaneously burst it was popped by terrible policy.
Lie-Straight on
EV’s are still the future, this is just corporate accounting games to minimize taxes
MCKALISTAIR on
Other countries exist and are quite happily buying up more and more EVs, this is a US problem
Astro-Logic83 on
This has absolutely nothing to do with EVs, this is 100% with Trump administration policies taking money out of the American consumer’s wallet and taking a strong stance against green energy initiatives.
Particular-Break-205 on
When someone says “EV”, I don’t automatically think of Jeep, Ford, or GM
The article also says “Demand cratered for the highest-profile EVs, from Tesla’s Cybertruck”
Gee I wonder why? Must be that EV demand
Pleasant-Shallot-707 on
EV bubble? lol no. Just dumb fuck politics putting America at a competitive disadvantage against China
fassaction on
If the infrastructure was better, EVs might be more popular, but we aren’t there yet. Charging stations will need to be installed in more locations for it to actually work.
greyhoodbry on
This wasn’t a bubble, it was a growing market intentionally killed
coys21 on
This wasn’t an actual bubble. It’s a unique issue to the U.S. Our government just fucking sucks.
lemaymayguy on
EV Bubble didn’t burst, the US government actively shot it in the back of the head
AugmentedKing on
Is it because AI doesn’t need to buy vehicles?
thatguy122 on
It’s not a f**king bubble. It’s misaligned priorities.
Ok-Pass-9139 on
The US has poor infrastructure for EVs. Lousy, usually broken, or slow charging stations where you may need to wait in line. Having a charger at home is great if you can afford the new 220 volt line installation, often as much as 2000 to 6000 dollars. I traded in my EV and went hybrid recently, after being frustrated by lack of chargers around Miami. Some I did find are so slow, it would have taken more than 12 hours to charge. Impossible at a public charging station
Chispy on
Elon made most of his 850B from EVs. This doesn’t seem like much in comparison.
howescj82 on
The current US government has been actively undermining EV infrastructure and implementation. The government also just rolled back EPA regulations regarding auto emissions to make non-electric vehicles cheaper. This is all happening during the period of EV development where these now vanished laws/regulations were instrumental in developing a new and innovative industry.
chileangod on
The US soon to be the land of the imperial system AND internal combustion engines.
sivic_ryder on
Good riddance of those pointless EVs. No one wants them. Pack them up, ship them to other countries outside the US, and let ‘em rip. 🪦 Let countries like Morocco, and Kenya use them up like cheap taxis with odd signs like old Mercedes wagons and beat the heap out of them. The running joke here is that eventually these EVs (lyric, equinox) will end up in some poor country that will gladly destroy those GM EVs to pieces.
CurvedTVGreen8788 on
EVs need to become cheaper than ICE equivalents for the market to truly shift.
The reason Chinese EVs are so popular worldwide, is because the total cost of ownership is cheaper than ICE equivalents.
landdon on
When will people understand? This is how you maga!
TurdFerguson614 on
Let this be your lesson how phoney the WSJ is.
Naddus on
Soon we will get to give them a huge bailout, instead of just funding innovation with the tax credits 🫠
seamurbile on
Anticipation of the end of the federal tax credit obviously makes sales go up, as people rush their purchase to take advantage of the credit. Then the credit ends and sales obviously go down. OMG SALES COLLAPSE, EV BUBBLE BURSTS!
More anti-EV bullshit from the billionaire controlled corporate media.
AtomWorker on
Did the bubble burst or do these three just never stop making poor decisions?
They’ve been doing the same crap for at least half a century. Plow a pile of money into the next big thing, get cold feet the instant there’s uncertainty and clumsily pivot to some short term trend.
This is all perfectly encapsulated by Ford killing the Fusion 6 years ago and now declaring that they want back in. So they’re starting from scratch against deeply ensconced competitors who enjoy sustained intuitional knowledge and proven, reliable platforms.
The same exact thing is going to happen with EVs except that they’ll also be competing against the Chinese.
dapi331 on
Teslas didn’t just sell well because they were electric, they sold well because the technology was all around great, they were super fast, energy cost affordable, their own massive charging network, and overly ambitious promises were made early.
GM is just taking their lackluster cars and lackluster technology and making them electric. Their cars sucked, their infotainment sucked, and until this year they used a charge port that wasn’t compatible with the most popular US charging network. They just selling the same junk but with fuel difference that will be less convenient for those without good charger options (home / work).
Rawalmond73 on
People want EV’s. This is a policy issue, an unwilling manufacturing issue.
CaptainPixel on
What a terrible headline. EV sales are still growing just at a slower rate. The global market is outpacing the domestic US market. The main issues are the US OEMs have focused on making expensive vehicles, the US admin has canceled the subsidies, and the admin refuses to invest in the infrastructure required.
troll__away on
Calling EVs a bubble is a terrible misnomer. EVs are absolutely crushing it elsewhere globally. This is a political and strategic choice by US OEMs and politicians.
This is as opposed to AI which absolutely is a bubble.
fattybunter on
So far I see one single comment in here about Tesla.
Beautiful-Sun8973 on
Declining sales because of dumb policy changes isn’t a bubble
Travelerdude on
The EV bubble is going strong everywhere but in the country actively trying to destroy the environment.
ThePensiveE on
Don’t worry, the rest of the world is buying EV’s, they just won’t be from what used to be the American Auto industry.
Travelerdude on
That from a government where ideals are more important than health
arrasonline on
I got an EV before the subsidy ran out. Charge it off my solar panels. Zero fuel costs these days is very nice.
EVs are in demand. It’s just that the fossil fuel industry wants to deny the future. In time we all know who will win out.
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Paywalled, but I fail to see what this has to do with the AI bubble?
Oh no, the guy you lobbied and voted for has tariffed your product and made everyone turn to china.
Who could have seen this coming!?
The collapse of EV isn’t a bubble. It’s a shift in policy
It didn’t spontaneously burst it was popped by terrible policy.
EV’s are still the future, this is just corporate accounting games to minimize taxes
Other countries exist and are quite happily buying up more and more EVs, this is a US problem
This has absolutely nothing to do with EVs, this is 100% with Trump administration policies taking money out of the American consumer’s wallet and taking a strong stance against green energy initiatives.
When someone says “EV”, I don’t automatically think of Jeep, Ford, or GM
The article also says “Demand cratered for the highest-profile EVs, from Tesla’s Cybertruck”
Gee I wonder why? Must be that EV demand
EV bubble? lol no. Just dumb fuck politics putting America at a competitive disadvantage against China
If the infrastructure was better, EVs might be more popular, but we aren’t there yet. Charging stations will need to be installed in more locations for it to actually work.
This wasn’t a bubble, it was a growing market intentionally killed
This wasn’t an actual bubble. It’s a unique issue to the U.S. Our government just fucking sucks.
EV Bubble didn’t burst, the US government actively shot it in the back of the head
Is it because AI doesn’t need to buy vehicles?
It’s not a f**king bubble. It’s misaligned priorities.
The US has poor infrastructure for EVs. Lousy, usually broken, or slow charging stations where you may need to wait in line. Having a charger at home is great if you can afford the new 220 volt line installation, often as much as 2000 to 6000 dollars. I traded in my EV and went hybrid recently, after being frustrated by lack of chargers around Miami. Some I did find are so slow, it would have taken more than 12 hours to charge. Impossible at a public charging station
Elon made most of his 850B from EVs. This doesn’t seem like much in comparison.
The current US government has been actively undermining EV infrastructure and implementation. The government also just rolled back EPA regulations regarding auto emissions to make non-electric vehicles cheaper. This is all happening during the period of EV development where these now vanished laws/regulations were instrumental in developing a new and innovative industry.
The US soon to be the land of the imperial system AND internal combustion engines.
Good riddance of those pointless EVs. No one wants them. Pack them up, ship them to other countries outside the US, and let ‘em rip. 🪦 Let countries like Morocco, and Kenya use them up like cheap taxis with odd signs like old Mercedes wagons and beat the heap out of them. The running joke here is that eventually these EVs (lyric, equinox) will end up in some poor country that will gladly destroy those GM EVs to pieces.
EVs need to become cheaper than ICE equivalents for the market to truly shift.
The reason Chinese EVs are so popular worldwide, is because the total cost of ownership is cheaper than ICE equivalents.
When will people understand? This is how you maga!
Let this be your lesson how phoney the WSJ is.
Soon we will get to give them a huge bailout, instead of just funding innovation with the tax credits 🫠
Anticipation of the end of the federal tax credit obviously makes sales go up, as people rush their purchase to take advantage of the credit. Then the credit ends and sales obviously go down. OMG SALES COLLAPSE, EV BUBBLE BURSTS!
More anti-EV bullshit from the billionaire controlled corporate media.
Did the bubble burst or do these three just never stop making poor decisions?
They’ve been doing the same crap for at least half a century. Plow a pile of money into the next big thing, get cold feet the instant there’s uncertainty and clumsily pivot to some short term trend.
This is all perfectly encapsulated by Ford killing the Fusion 6 years ago and now declaring that they want back in. So they’re starting from scratch against deeply ensconced competitors who enjoy sustained intuitional knowledge and proven, reliable platforms.
The same exact thing is going to happen with EVs except that they’ll also be competing against the Chinese.
Teslas didn’t just sell well because they were electric, they sold well because the technology was all around great, they were super fast, energy cost affordable, their own massive charging network, and overly ambitious promises were made early.
GM is just taking their lackluster cars and lackluster technology and making them electric. Their cars sucked, their infotainment sucked, and until this year they used a charge port that wasn’t compatible with the most popular US charging network. They just selling the same junk but with fuel difference that will be less convenient for those without good charger options (home / work).
People want EV’s. This is a policy issue, an unwilling manufacturing issue.
What a terrible headline. EV sales are still growing just at a slower rate. The global market is outpacing the domestic US market. The main issues are the US OEMs have focused on making expensive vehicles, the US admin has canceled the subsidies, and the admin refuses to invest in the infrastructure required.
Calling EVs a bubble is a terrible misnomer. EVs are absolutely crushing it elsewhere globally. This is a political and strategic choice by US OEMs and politicians.
This is as opposed to AI which absolutely is a bubble.
So far I see one single comment in here about Tesla.
Declining sales because of dumb policy changes isn’t a bubble
The EV bubble is going strong everywhere but in the country actively trying to destroy the environment.
Don’t worry, the rest of the world is buying EV’s, they just won’t be from what used to be the American Auto industry.
That from a government where ideals are more important than health
I got an EV before the subsidy ran out. Charge it off my solar panels. Zero fuel costs these days is very nice.
EVs are in demand. It’s just that the fossil fuel industry wants to deny the future. In time we all know who will win out.