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  1. >Sparks questions about US Healthcare System?

    You mean the ubiquitous, neverending questions that have existed for years?

  2. octopusnoises on

    So a famous person died and now the system will get looked at. I wonder how many regular people will die just in the mean time.

  3. Bubblybathtime on

    This is not an attempt to besmirch his memory…but isn’t part of the issue that he was seeking alternative health care measures that were not covered by insurance?

  4. battleofflowers on

    The family is very vague about WHY they need all this money. They don’t actually say it’s medical debt, but rather that his fight with cancer has left them in need of funds. James Van Der Beek made a lot of money is his career and should have either had insurance through SAG or been able to afford a policy on the marketplace. Also, he had six children BEFORE he got sick. He should have had a good life insurance policy.

    I’m sorry to be so cynical here, but something doesn’t pass the sniff test.

  5. I remember Shannen Doherty putting SAG on blast for their eligibility requirements for insurance. Her insurance was cut when she was sick because she couldn’t meet the requirements to work so many days in a year and make like 25K. James may have been in the same situation as he was unable to work. Or as others have said it might be the types of treatments he sought.

    I’m Canadian and it boggles my mind how families can be made bankrupt due to someone having an illness. I lost my dad to cancer when I was 17 and he had multiple surgeries and prolonged hospital stays including ICU. I can’t imagine mom having to deal with financial issues in addition to having just lost her husband.

  6. likeabuddha on

    The family just wanted to continue sending their kids to private school and living an outlandish lifestyle in a mansion, and dumbass people living paycheck to paycheck helped them do that.

  7. Stop giving money to people who’ve lived many years in wealth. Fucking ridiculous

  8. I was a fan of a few of his roles and after losing loved ones to cancer and seeing that this disease not only kills the person it infects but hurts families and loved ones as well. I’d not wish it on anyone.

    That said the amount of money already donated is more than many who go out and work everyday will see in decades not days. Makes this hard to support. I’ve see. GoFundMes for a burial plot not reach their goals because I’m from an area where even the well off would be considered poor in some parts of the US.

    I’m sure the purpose was to drum up support from his community of friends and acquaintances from the entertainment industry. Doesn’t make the optics better.

  9. UpvoteForPancakes on

    “Giving millions to millionaires” is basically our country’s motto

  10. Ah yes. The very new information that the US for profit Healthcare system is awful. It’s a good thing people are now talking about it. I’m certain things will change.

  11. p00p5andwich on

    So it takes a celebrity going broke to „spark questions“? Yep. That sounds about right.

  12. AkumaBengoshi on

    I’m more concerned with the legal system. How does a person of his status not have proper estate planning in his place to insulate wife and kids against his personal debts? Something fishy here.

  13. probablymagic on

    People are saying this is a failure of the healthcare system, but he reportedly moved to Texas to get “alternative” treatment not covered by his health insurance.

    There doesn’t seem to be a lot of information on this, but the scandal here may be that you can bilk dying people out of money with unproven an ineffective treatment, because desperate people are vulnerable, as opposed to SAG not providing decent coverage.

  14. _Now_ it sparks questions? Not when millions go into medical debt or die from preventable causes because of no or shit insurance or no money??

  15. NoLobster7957 on

    I’m in pharmacy and the shit I see as an American is beyond the pale. It’s equal parts nobody understands the insurance system (which is by design), particularly elderly folks, the costs are astronomical, and most people have to make sacrifices to afford necessary medications. If they can even get prescribed in the first place.

    The main thing is that the pervasive lack of info about the process, either by making it into indecipherable legalese or just scamming people outright, makes the process confusing as shit. Sometimes the cash price of a drug is hundreds of dollars cheaper than the price with insurance, for example. Riddle me that shit.

    Insurance shouldn’t exist in the first fucking place, honestly. It’s a totally unnecessary middle man made up to be a deciding factor for a far more educated and knowledgeable physician’s orders, giving them the right to say, „We can’t approve of the med your doctor prescribed you because we haven’t gotten enough information from the doctor,“ then having the doctor contact the insurance and tell them they have tons of clinical justification, then the insurance STILL saying the doctor is wrong… the whole thing is corrupt and could be solved by making drug prices affordable. Which is EASY.

    The cost of making a liter bag of saline is like a dollar. The cost the patient will pay in a hospital setting can be $600. Even factoring in infusion supplies, that kind of markup is pure greed and completely unnecessary.

    Don’t even get me started on hospital supplies like heparin and saline that sits in boxes in the basement and goes bad and is just written off. Fraud waste and abuse my lily white ass.

  16. Queasy-Floor-929 on

    Sparks questions?, you and your partner can work all your life, have a couple kids, go into debt sending them off to college/university, god forbid one of you gets sick, next thing you know that house you took 30 years to pay off belongs to the insurance company and your out on your ass, that’s the American dream.

  17. ErnestT_bass on

    The amount of taxes we paid on every little thing we get very little in return 

  18. With everything going on it’s hard to not be cynical about donating millions to a family that was earning millions for a long, long time.

    Like, no ill will to the family, we’re going through a very similar situation and it’s the absolute worst, but why do we only believe in socialism/welfare for those that shouldn’t really need it?

  19. „Sparks questions“ is a weird way to phrase „highlights that American Healthcare is arguably the worst in the world and has been for as long as I can recall“

  20. No-Effect5633 on

    Medical capitalism kinda sucks .. 38th in life expectancy, #1 in cost …

  21. “But in other countries you have to wait months to see your doctor!”

    The earliest I could schedule an annual physical with my (same) doctor was 3 months.

    Maybe we should try some of that universal healthcare! I would love to not think about how much healthcare things will cost.

  22. GOMIrunaway on

    With a six kids and a stay at home wife, how on earth do you not carry a metric fuck ton of life insurance? I’m a regular ass person with three kids and if I knock off, my family gets $5M.

  23. everyonesdeskjob on

    I don’t understand when republicans get office we will have no issues with arresting another country’s leader but when Dems get power we cant get universal healthcare.

  24. Weekly-Landscape-543 on

    When my dad died of cancer we had to sell my family home. This is bullshit, sorry. They just want to keep living in the style they are accustomed to.

  25. Helpful-Chicken-4597 on

    I’m actually questioning why they aren’t willing to sell any of their assets, and are instead asking us common folk fund to their millionaire lifestyle?

  26. Questions that no one will answer and no changes will be made. Tale as old as time in America.

  27. With a wife and six kids I would certainly hope that he had adequate life insurance. Multi million dollar policies including mortgage insurance is obtainable for someone like him who made a lot of money with his career. He was diagnosed more than two years ago giving the family enough time to plan ahead. Of course money is not the most important issue considering that his young children lost their father but this looks like a money grab for sympathy and I really hope that’s not the case.

  28. This is a money grab…I don’t think his wife or kids are even involved but the media sure is…

  29. No_Mobile6220 on

    I don’t have questions about the healthcare system because of this. I have questions about why he had 6 kids and no life insurance. I have questions about why us regular people who can’t afford groceries are being asked to donate to this family that lives on a 50 acre farm.

    Our healthcare system here is abysmal, but I knew that. Where was his health insurance? Even if not covered through SAG, he could have paid OOP.

  30. My parents lost their entire retirement fighting my dad’s cancer

    My grandparents lost their entire retirement fighting my grandmother’s cancer.

    My aunt and uncle lost their entire retirement fighting my aunts cancer.

    No one can EVER tell me that this country cares about healthcare and it citizens. It’s a SCAM.

  31. RaiseIreSetFires on

    Not surprised a conservative family is going around asking for handouts from the poors.

  32. TattedUpSimba on

    What questions are there to be had? We know the healthcare system is broken as fuck. Did we already forget all the conversations about the Obamacare subsidies earlier this year?

  33. BranFlakes1337 on

    There’s a reason that a Mario Brother took out an insurance CEO and the only people that feel bad about it are other rich CEO’s.

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