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    1. MazdaProphet on

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      People are people. If we tell them they were born victims they give up

      If we tell them they are expected to succeed they do that

      Link to the OP https://x.com/JoshWilliamsOH/status/2021283137431437726

      Source of the claim

      https://x.com/sarthakgh/status/2020964984906449357

      „A Black Mississippi child is two and a half times as likely to be proficient in reading by fourth grade as a Black California child.“

      „…states with large increases in school test scores enjoyed rising incomes and drops in teen motherhood, incarceration and arrest rates…“

    2. Alone_Peace371 on

      Another day in America, another day wasted fighting over who can pay the hardest tribute to its least productive, most costly demographic 

    3. swanfirefly on

      I thought NCLB was a republican thing, since it was GWB’s big education reform?

      But overall, it’s not „holding kids back“ that has lead to Mississippi’s sharp increase in literacy rates, though it may be helping. They’ve also been following….scientifically proven methods like phonics-based learning and focusing on teaching literacy in the first three years of education. The third-grade „gate“ was only part of their methodology.

      Overall „just hold kids back“ without a target educational threshold (key word: without, Mississippi HAS a target) did historically lead to worse outcomes, hence Bush’s initial „no child left behind“ plan – something that was still in place nationwide until *after* Mississippi started their literacy improvement plan. At the time they implemented the plan, they were 49th in the nation for literacy.

      Now of course, you COULD use words like „PANDERING“ and post a twitter screenshot of a person trying very very hard to make it a left vs right issue, but holding children back is only a small small piece of the overall improvement, as the rest of their plan and goals (see: using evidence-based teaching methods and phonics-first language learning in addition to focusing ONLY on learning literacy in the first few years) has actually done a lot more than holding students back.

      Additionally, if you look at the states with third grade benchmark laws (like Mississippi) …. California, one of the states the tweet is comparing Mississippi to, has the same exact law where if a child is still illiterate at the end of third grade, they are held back. Now, how could that possibly be if California is one of the evil liberal states that just passes every child who has a pulse, like the tweet you screenshot is implying?

      Maybe, just maybe, „just hold dumb kids back“ isn’t the only part of the Mississippi solution that’s driving them forward? MAYBE it’s the phonics based teaching that follows actual educational science?

    4. Pretend_Meet_88 on

      LMAO this belongs in the leopards ate my face:

      Relying on [federally supported research](https://ies.ed.gov/use-work/regional-educational-laboratories-rel/southeast) from the [Institute of Education Science](https://theconversation.com/helping-teachers-learn-what-works-in-the-classroom-and-what-doesnt-will-get-a-lot-harder-without-the-department-of-educations-institute-of-education-sciences-247675), the state invested in [phonics, fluency, vocabulary and reading comprehension](https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED613758). The law provided K-3 teachers with training and support to help students master reading by the end of third grade.

      Guess what Trump shutdown?

    5. How come I’ve never used math beyond addition, subtraction, multiplication and division yet you have to learn Algebra and all other kinds of bullshit that you’ll never use in real life to pass school?

    6. How about not r@ping them…is that good for them? If so, EPSTE!N FILES B!TCH. WOKE DON’T R@PE KIDS, but those f><kers do.

    7. fatbootycelinedion on

      Omfg. You don’t live in Ohio and you don’t know wtf our politicians are smoking. They smoke peen. A little one that looks like the super Mario Mushroom.

    8. lol politicizing the stupidity of children

      We are so cooked

      I know it’s by design but

      Damn

    9. a reminder “woke ideology” was always about being critical of any authority figure

      Not this weirdo shit they tried to rebrand it as

    10. I_Reading_I on

      Not a conspiracy. Also a weird cherry picked argument bringing in race and a sketchy tie to “woke ideology” while ignoring every other factor except keeping kids from graduating.

    11. Terrible_Impress8169 on

      Ive taught in the south, as well as on the west coast. Mississippi has seen gains because they finally started using systematic phonics instruction. Which is also taught in school’s I’ve worked at in the West, too. A lot of these strategies and the research was actually adopted from institutes out of New York. What really separates Mississippi, from east coast and west coast is the number of english language learners. California and New york schools are a lot more diverse than Mississippi.

    12. Does anyone ever consider that there could be widespread cheating on these state tests? Hypothetically, of course.

    13. HistorianMedical704 on

      In my school district, students can only repeat a grade for a maximum of two years. I always think it’s more of a cultural convention thing to not hold them back, because it would result in super seniors who start to bully younger kids; and since kids experience greater growth spurt in K1-K5, you’d expect to see see 5-feet-tall 3rd grader beating up an younger 3rd grader. Some states also have a large transient population (agricultural workers and their kids, for example), so even though the kid(s) missed one third of the school year because they was moving constantly, the school still has to enroll them.

      Regardless, I think the reason they started reading better is because they revived phonics based reading curriculum like UFLI instead of wholistic reading. Almost every districts in Florida are using UFLI now. 

    14. South-Rabbit-4064 on

      It’s a little bit of BS though. It’s selection bias, of course literacy is better when it’s measured in 4th grade with the NAEP when you hold back all the kids that can’t read. Mississippi rose in national rankings, its raw scores actually dipped slightly in recent years (e.g., from an average of 219 in 2019 to 217 in 2022). The state’s rank improved largely because other states‘ scores fell even faster during the same period.

      Mississippi is still in the bottom as far as 8th grade literacy goes. So I think this guys counting chickens before the hatch.

      There’s some good and some bad with it, one things for sure though is we will make it political and retain the bad the best we can, just like this guys doing interjected „woke“ into it. Kind of makes everything else he said more stupid.

    15. Has the term “woke” been warped so far from its original meaning that it’s now synonymous with what I’m assuming is being implied in the post as progressive or a leftists?

    16. oldmanpotter on

      I worry a lot about our children today. Education is failing them at every level, K-12 and College-PhD. Kids can’t read, do math, are being taught what to think instead of how to think.

      If our kids are failures, we’re toast.

    17. flatearthconspiracy on

      Well, destigmatize being held back and be good about 20 year old high school students 

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