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    1. Not sure what I think about the increase to 8 years but the other points should have been a requirement from the beginning.

    2. probablypoo on

      Having lived in Sweden for 5 years is pretty much the only requirement right now so all of these changes are welcome and won’t affect any of the immigrants that contribute to society. 

      A politican for the Liberal party proposed these changes over 20 years ago and was ostricized for being racist, the political climate has changed dramatically in the last 20 years.

    3. Zegram_Ghart on

      Having to jump hurdles as part of entry is a **bit** weird, but whatever they want I guess

    4. Increase to 8 years is foolish, because everyone integrates at different speeds. But all the other requirements are reasonable.

    5. Special-Bath-9433 on

      Extending the time someone needs to spend working in the country without the elementary democratic right to vote. Keeping a growing part of the society deprived of democracy, deepening social inequalities and divisions. That’s all there is.

      It is also an obvious act of appeasing the bullies. Historically, it has always been the wrong choice. But politically, always very lucrative in near-term. And these are some political hustlers. Near-term is all they see.

    6. It’s so strange to me that the parties who are ’tough on immigration’ across Europe, continually do very little to fight the type of immigration people are vocal about, and instead put tougher restrictions and rules on those who moved to settle and integrate.

      I moved to my wife in Sweden from UK, I had to wait a year for my application to be looked at, then declined on a paperwork technicality. I had to fix this technicality, then reapply and wait another year, then I’m back and forth to the extremely underfunded and understaffed embassy (whom were actually super friendly, but frustrated by the process), before waiting another 2 months to get my permit. This whole time I was instructed not to visit Sweden with an ongoing application. I move here and had to apply for a personnummer and a bank before I can do anything, the bank tells me I don’t need a number and can instead come for an appointment, I attend and they tell me I need a personnummer . I get my personnummer after 3 months of having lived here, wait another month and a half for a bank appointment and they then tell me I need a Swedish ID card, which I have to wait another month to get an appointment for, and another 3 weeks to get the ID card. For anyone who lives in Sweden, you will know how impossible life is without these things – everything asks for your BankID or personnummer, I couldn’t even go to a gym locally.

      I have a constant anxiety and pressure around the upcoming permit renewal, which will now continue while I live here for 8 years, thanks to the changes to permanent residency they are planning, despite EU rules. When I travelled I got interrogated at immigration, every time, even with a valid permit and 0 history of issues or crime. To the point I am too afraid to travel outside the country or to visit family in the UK. When asked why I was being targeted, my wife was told the police were asked ’to make it tough for Brits’. I have done everything by the book, I learn Swedish, work and pay a lot of tax, follow the law and rules, join local groups and befriend natives. I completely agree with basic language tests and ensuring people are working, but everybody integrates at different speeds so time gating it further feels needlessly cruel. This is frustrating to say the least.

      For what it’s worth, I am pro-EU and was staunchly against Brexit.

    7. justaprettyturtle on

      It has always shocked me that some countries do not require even basic knowledge of their language for citizenship. How do they want them to participate in the culture of the country when they don’t speak the local language?

      We require B1 which generally is not that much and anyone can learn it within a few years.

    8. How does it affect the Nordic rules for immigration? I became a Swedish citizen after 3 year of living here, the turnaround time was also super fast, think it was approved within a week.

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