Zehn Jahre jung für die Sozialdemokraten – wird sie für einige SF-Wähler zu einer gangbaren Alternative?
https://www.thejournal.ie/social-democrats-national-conference-sinn-fein-6950291-Feb2026/
Von Banania2020
Zehn Jahre jung für die Sozialdemokraten – wird sie für einige SF-Wähler zu einer gangbaren Alternative?
https://www.thejournal.ie/social-democrats-national-conference-sinn-fein-6950291-Feb2026/
Von Banania2020
23 Kommentare
I will never vote for SF but that doesn’t mean I’ll never vote left. If SF voters wanna join me on the Soc Dem train I’ll get right behind the leftist movement. I just don’t want terrorists running the country.
Personally I’m looking for a party that is not FFG/SF. I’m sick of FFG mismanagement, but fear SF would do more harm than good. If there were more SD candidates I could seem myself voting for them
Bit of a joke party. Telling Micheal Martin to shoot his mouth off in front of Trump, amateur stuff.
Well if you read their policies it’s mostly the same as SF but the way in which they propose to fund them is better thought out and more achievable.
Plus they don’t have the “odd “ local guys on their ticket and likely don’t have any members who killed someone in the 1970’s
10 years of permacrisis due to infighting.
Linda Hayden, Ellie Kisyombe, Owen Hanley, Glenna Lynch, Eoin Hayes…
I voted SF 1st preference in the past but the following has really put me off them:
– Environment/climate policy is extremely weak
– Support for Fox Hunting
– LGBTQ+ policy changes, particularly the regressive ones up north that got them banned from Belfast Pride
– Against legalisation of cannabis
– Tax Base concerns (ditching USC, LPT, Carbon Tax & VAT reductions all in one term will harm funding their goals for housing, health, infrastructure etc..)
– Weak & fragmented on active travel + public transport
Happy to put some policy stuff aside to support a big alternative to FG & FF, but with the way Soc Dems are growing I think its better to give them my no1 right now.
Unfortunately the social Democrats seem to be the newest sacrifice to keep FFG alive. There will come a time where FFG will need a coalition and SD will be the new labour, progressive democrats, green party etc and go into that coalition to continue FFG administration. I genuinely hate this country and media literally anything discussed is anti change
I used to like the Social Democrats but tbh their veneer of moral superiority is off putting. They come across as awfully naive and unfit for power.
Sinn Fein seem to be drifting back to being a single issue party. Reunification. Yes they talk a bit about housing but it feels that is because they know that is what people care about but it is reunification that seems to be their real passion. That’s not going to fly with the majority of voters so if the Soc Dems present a wider vision for the future then they will take voters from SF.
The social democrats just looks so…. soft. I can’t see them having the stomach to run the country
Once Holly Cairns is the leader you can assure they won’t have my vote.
I definitely would have given them a preference last time but they never ran a candidate in Cavan/Monaghan.
Dermot Looney wrote a decent and honest appraisal of the party on its 10 years recently. I find some of the Soc Dems, maybe Sinéad Gibney in particular to come off a bit technocratic to me. For a long while I thought them a party of geography class teachers and policy wonks. I’ve warmed up to them.
Emotionally, I should be a Shinner voter – and was very much pulled into a feeling post-Repeal that they could be a vehicle for a once in a generation shift in Irish politics. Some great young people in the party and a total wave joined. They fucked that.
Polansky in the UK shows that an insurgent left can come from suprising places, the Soc Dems *probably* have better democratic structures and less baggage that will allow the internal changes needed to become a broader vehicle for people to want to change the country.
The Shinners will spend too much time leaning into the flag waving wankers and psuedo-nationalisms instead of developing a living socialist republicanism for the 21st century.
[https://substack.com/home/post/p-168377012](https://substack.com/home/post/p-168377012)
I like that they chose to remain in opposition rather than becoming the minority third-wheel that inevitably gets scapegoated. I like that they are principled although I can see how some people would perceive that as naive. I agree with most of their positions and I believe Cairns is a strong leader, with charisma and vision.
and I like that they are not FF or FG.
so yes. definitely an option for me.
These guys are banana’s
Sinn Fein is too big of a ‚Big Tent‘ movement for me to support them. It always feels extremely unclear what their policies (besides reunification) are and whether they’ll remain consistent.
Soc Dems seem to be pretty consistent for a social democratic party so for my thoughts, I think they’re easier to know what you’re getting.
For them to be in power, they’d have to form a coalition with SF? So isn’t a vote for SD the same as a vote for SF? The illusion of choice ?
If they did a Labour/Greens on it and joined a FGFF coalition they’d be decimated the next election as Labour/Green were.
Well, I’m supporting them. They don’t seem desperate for power in a way that compromises their positions like SF. And I’d never support FFG
Can’t see it. Fundamentally they’re determined to forever remain opposition by design. They’re basically all former labour people with no backbone. Walked as soon as hard choices had to be made.
They’ll never put themselves in a position where they cannot have their cake and eat it.
There’s absolutely no credible opposition in Ireland. Labour is a clown show, Soc dems are spineless. And Sinn Fein, well we all know the story there.
Edit: I should add here that I can’t blame Soc Dems for beinf spineless. The Irish electorate ruthlessly punishes the left leaning smaller party in any cooalition. See Greens / Labour.
So we kind of deserve what we get.
is mostly people on reddit ireland who vote for these thankfully
Sinead Gibney suggesting that the Irish government should nationalise global social media companies and alogrithms certainly wont’t help their cause or credibility!
If they’d only actually run candidates in my locality / county I’d give them a 1st
Hard to take them seriously given their complete dereliction of duty in refusing to enter government after the last election and leaving the government with no choice but to depend on the rural independent chancers to keep the country running.
But then that was their whole raison d’etre in breaking away from Labour, it’s much easier and self serving to maintain ideological purity from the sidelines and pretend every complex problem has an easy solution, instead of actually dealing with reality and making difficult decisions when they need to be made.