Ottawa sagt, es werde nicht zulassen, dass chinesische Elektrofahrzeuge zum Ausspionieren von Kanadiern eingesetzt werden
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-ottawa-says-it-wont-allow-chinese-evs-to-be-used-for-spying-on/
Ottawa sagt, es werde nicht zulassen, dass chinesische Elektrofahrzeuge zum Ausspionieren von Kanadiern eingesetzt werden
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-ottawa-says-it-wont-allow-chinese-evs-to-be-used-for-spying-on/
42 Kommentare
pay wall
A ridiculous thing to say when people already use phones assembled in China that DO spy on us.
Paywalled, but that’s a bold claim. How do they intend to *enforce* it?
Are they going to require software and firmware source code to be audited and disable SOTA?
The reality is, individual consumers are probably going to have to make the judgement call for themselves on whether the risk is material *to them*.
Tesla employees were sharing videos from cars. I guess that was ok though.
If you buy a Tesla. Elon Musk is spying your life and sending it to the Trump government.
If you don’t want your car to spy on you just yell „Tian an men square 1989“ every time you start the car.
That’s the thing about spying though… You often don’t know it’s happening…
I wish governments would commit to preventing spying for ANY tech company. So tired of governments sometimes claiming to protect us from Chinese spying while letting largely American big tech firms gobble up all our data.
So many worries over a car spying on us. I can think something 20 miles from my phone now in Canada, and soon as I open the internet it’s already there ha ha, now I don’t much care…as I know my roll is to shush, pay taxes and bugger off…but c’mon, we got some slim shadiness happening on the daily. And let’s not even talk TikTok !
How about American EV’s?
Colour me a moron but I couldn’t give a fuck about someone surveilling my trip to and from the grocery store at a cheaper rate than my current car allows, despite every single privately owned camera doing so already during the same trips currently.
I’m not a billionaire so none of this shit matters to me other than the accessibility of a feasible transportation option. I don’t care if that’s a train, an electric car, or a glider.
Yeah right I totally trust this government on this😂
Declaring this is nice. Wonder how it will be enforced.
Pretty sure we are surrounded by devices spying on us at all times
Was allowing it an option at some point?!
lol this headline
Because there was a option to allow spying
It is staggering, the amount and type of data that a Tesla collects by the second. If chinese EVs do spy, they are certainly not first.
I thought this was a Beaverton headline for a second
There is no way for them to truly enforce that. This is essentially propaganda.
Get them to pinky promise
DCM bypass kits for all. Our vehicles are already making us vulnerable….
I think the phones are already doing that
Virtually every smart device has the can, or already does, record your personal usage data. It’s an almost unavoidable part of life at this point. The question is what will they do with that data and does it have serious potential to harm personal or national interests.
Why so harsh? Couldn’t they just allow Chinese EVs to spy a little bit on Canadians? That just seems mean to not allow any
So exactly where is the data from the cameras going to be processed?
China being the boogeyman is old school American propaganda
It’s not spying that worries me (considering all the tech I own and use in my day to day). The only real concern I have with Chinese made vehicles if they have a remote kill switch like they discovered on some electric buses in Europe. I don’t necessarily think the Chinese government would use it (unless something major changes like an all out war) but if it’s baked in then it can be exploited or glitch and that would be… Bad.
Yet everyone buys a made in China Apple product or really almost any product and nothing is ever said. I think it comes down to who the parent company is. An American can produce what they want in China and suddenly it’s top quality. A Chinese company basically produces the same product out of the same factory with a different label and it’s now suddenly full of malware and crap quality, but all that really changed was the label.Same thing was said about the Japanese/ Koreans years ago at some point North America got to up there game or they will have no Auto industry or one so technically behind that no one other then the domestic market would even consider one.
Well the government said they won’t allow it so I guess that means it won’t happen 🙂
And how are they planning to stop it?
I love that this is what people are worried about while their cell phones listen to every word they say.
They could do the same with the amount of data Tesla collects where it wouldn’t be surprising that it likely finds its way to Musk’s Bond-villain buddy Thiel at Palantir.
This not really how spying works. They don’t ask for permission.
All of your modern electronic devices spy on you. The americans will make it sound like China is bad, usa good when, in reality, business is doing it for advertising purposes. More greed than anything. I trust China far more than usa these days.
I fail to understand what is going to spy on
Any EV needs the end user to provide internet connectivity. You can easily snoop on that data to see what data is being sent and where. Even if the data is encrypted, you can at least see where it’s going.
Stelantis, ford and gm still ok though?
Honestly, what info will they really get that the big American tech companies don’t already have? The only area of concern would be anything near military installations. Outside of that people like Doug Ford are fear mongering.
The government cant even stop the Chinese from having secret police stations on our soil, how are they gonna stop that from happening?
I’m sure the very strongly worded letter will be agreed on while they cross their fingers.
Almost everyone’s iPhone was made in China, and it’s spying on Canadians.
They use your voice and talks to harvest data, they anonymize you and then use that data to make better services or sell that data to data brokers. Everything you type is shared.
All they do is censor your name and identity and keep the data and since you got no proof it’s you, you cannot win.
Google, Apple, Microsoft and Amazon all do this.
They literally just convert your voice into a different voice, or convert your speech into text and use „AI“ aka computers before AI became over hyped to make conclusions on what you eat, drink, shop, travel, do and sell you products and services based on your profile.
You are the product.
China does the same, and the CIA and other US agencies who is actively in Alberta supporting Secessionists can get access to anyone’s data in Canada if they really needed to.
The banks, the other apps from Starbucks, McDonald’s, Costco, Canadian Tire, and more all do this.
Spying is fine, it’s risk managing that is important.
If you want 100% secure networks than everything must be done in Canada. From the data center, to the company providing the service, to the HQ, access to data, the hardware etc all must be done in Canada.
And that still won’t help since people can copy and paste information and take photos with their own phones and shaee your data.
People think cyeber security is some hacker writing lines of code really fast breaking into systems like movies. But the majority of security breaches is just some naive people opening an email and clicking a link and giving their information willingly.
Heck you don’t even need cars, the satellite systems we use for Internet and Cellular services are not even secure, people can intercept them and read what messages and photos you are sending.
Canadians lack basic digital literacy and hence they assume China is and and big *friend* America is good.
Companies will do whatever it takes to milk and dime you for money. Welcome to capitalism. Doesn’t matter if they are American, Chinese or European or heck Aliens.
American EVs spy on Canadians all the time.