Here in Wisconsin, you can go up to 98,000 pounds during winter if hauling logs, pulpwood, salt, or sand.
szakee on
USA is just a Sim City that got out of hand these days.
Practical-Suit-6798 on
They did this with trains. The trains got heavier and heavier. Safety checks got fewer and fewer.. it’s fine honestly there hasn’t been a horrific environmental catastrophic accident that made head line news in like 1.5 years.
Oregonrider2014 on
If they do this we need a way to rake back some of the additional profit in taxes to maintian the additional wear on the roads but we all know that isn’t happening.
fafnir01 on
Was thinking of trading in the Vespa for a KEI truck… I should probably just move to another country.
fumar on
Awful idea. Road damage is exponential as vehicle weight increases. We already can’t afford to maintain our roads as is.
Loa_Sandal on
You’d think the Australian road train would be ideally suited to the US. 42+ tons sounds tiny compared to Australia’s 200 tons.
Terrible-Piano-5437 on
Brilliant. Poor billionaires aren’t making enough.
WaltMitty on
I’m sure there’s overlap between people who support heavier semi trucks but say electric vehicles are tearing up roads because they’re too heavy.
the_millenial_falcon on
Is the article implying those are the tires the heavier semi trucks will use?
Drekkful on
Can’t wait to hit massive potholes because Walmart and other corporations don’t want to send freight safely to save money.
Fuck those fucking bastards.
askyidroppedthesoap on
Lol wait til you guys find out that trucks weighing as much as 600,000 lbs. Have been on America’s roads. Loads so goddamn heavy it required 4 trucks 2 on the front and 2 in the back. Loads weighing over 90,000 lbs. Is pretty common, the only difference between 80,000 lbs. And overweight loads is the permits. If you’re willing to pay for the permits there’s virtually no limit to your size or weight.
sls35 on
Triple the road tax for them.
Feligris on
If the weight limits apply to all possible combinations (since I’m not entirely sure of how they’re using the phrase „semi truck“), it’s actually interesting to me to know that the United States has such low limits despite being such a huge country, being akin to continental Europe – here in Finland 60 metric ton (~132 200 lbs) tractor-trailer combinations have been common for a long time, and currently the limit is progressively up to 76 metric tons (~165 500 lbs) when you go past seven axles.
The majority of the EU however has much lower limits in continental Europe, which is why there has been some wrangling about legal varieties of trailers and combinations of them because otherwise it would have been impossible for continental European trucking companies to compete in the Nordics.
Rot-Orkan on
Well…. I suppose regular tax payers can take one more for the team 🤷
MRHubrich on
I’ll bet that the people fighting for this are companies that don’t contribute to the taxes that help maintain these roads.
ChapterThr33 on
Corporate socialism baby! God we’re fucked.
woodenmetalman on
Yes. Let’s degrade our unmaintained infrastructure even further and more quickly… what’s the worst that could happe…. Oh.
They just need to make it standard across 80 or 90k, but before that they need to actually fix the fucking roads.
Kills me seeing 110, 220, 500k+ loads and just thinking, so if you just pay the permit suddenly its okay that these loads get moved …
Secondly, driving across i40 bridge or the i10 mega bridge with all the loads trucks rolling down the road all punched together bridge law is able to factor 20+ 40T trailers all at once.
The smarter option would be going back to trains (were applicable), having states regional hubs to do offloads/loading same way intermodals are done now so the roads are just being used by Heavy haul or hazmat only.
This would end up saving fuel, getting drivers off the road, freeing up more parking, saving tax payers money from wear and tear and would allow more drivers to either remain regional/local or become more specialized for much higher pay.
Ofc we all know truck drivers don’t get paid shit anyway
mikekb33 on
i say NO. we cant fix the roads and infrastructure we have now. all our tax money goes to WAR.
IkoIkonoclast on
Tax them aggressively by GVW to cover road maintenance
ruiner8850 on
Here in Michigan we allow crazy high weight limits for trucks and it really hurts our road quality. It’s not the only reason, but it’s one of the big reasons why we have some of the worst roads in the country. This is just a way to make it cheaper for companies to increase their profits while shifting the cost of the roads to everyone else.
DragonRei86 on
No. Greedy Bastards.
FrostyWizard505 on
Dont do it
They did it in South Africa and our asphalt roads became gravel
ThePensiveE on
Their centers will make us pay for their power while their heavy trucks make us pay for their infrastructure.
The billionaires can’t get enough.
cr8tor_ on
They already do, if you have a permit.
doalittletapdance on
guessing the electric trucks guys are pushing this because of battery weights
koolaidman89 on
The comments on the original r/truckers thread are interesting. It reduces the number of drivers which hurts them. And necessitates lower speeds in the mountains which hurts earnings when paid by the mile.
But the opinion seems to be the required increase in axle count negates the effect of weight on road damage and that the state will recoup any additional road maintenance costs through registration fees for the big rigs.
SeaPatrol24 on
This and bought up CDLs, the road will be a thunderdome
Altruistic_Brick1730 on
Some of these comments are off the wall. Yeah, let’s build separate roads for trucks, or build them underground. Or make them carry less cargo so we can have more trucks on the road.
JSpell on
The roads that are already fucked? Hard pass, make 2 trips.
turb0_encapsulator on
this is what actually destroys roads, and then the rest of have to pay taxes to fix them.
intronert on
I’m ok with this, as long as their taxes go up as the cube of the weight, to track their wear on the roads.
meguminsupremacy on
WE ALREADY DON’T SPEND ENOUGH ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE YOU FUCKING RATS
Student-type on
The bridges will fall
staticvoidmainnull on
sure, but they foot the bill for road maintenance.
Unable_Apartment_613 on
I live in WV with lots of oil and gas trucks. Before that it was coal trucks and the whole time we had big timber trucks on the roads too. These industries aren’t even taxed enough to pay for the damage they do to road infrastructure.
Nebraska716 on
This is going from 5 axles to 6. This is less weight per tire and more brakes per ton.
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Here in Wisconsin, you can go up to 98,000 pounds during winter if hauling logs, pulpwood, salt, or sand.
USA is just a Sim City that got out of hand these days.
They did this with trains. The trains got heavier and heavier. Safety checks got fewer and fewer.. it’s fine honestly there hasn’t been a horrific environmental catastrophic accident that made head line news in like 1.5 years.
If they do this we need a way to rake back some of the additional profit in taxes to maintian the additional wear on the roads but we all know that isn’t happening.
Was thinking of trading in the Vespa for a KEI truck… I should probably just move to another country.
Awful idea. Road damage is exponential as vehicle weight increases. We already can’t afford to maintain our roads as is.
You’d think the Australian road train would be ideally suited to the US. 42+ tons sounds tiny compared to Australia’s 200 tons.
Brilliant. Poor billionaires aren’t making enough.
I’m sure there’s overlap between people who support heavier semi trucks but say electric vehicles are tearing up roads because they’re too heavy.
Is the article implying those are the tires the heavier semi trucks will use?
Can’t wait to hit massive potholes because Walmart and other corporations don’t want to send freight safely to save money.
Fuck those fucking bastards.
Lol wait til you guys find out that trucks weighing as much as 600,000 lbs. Have been on America’s roads. Loads so goddamn heavy it required 4 trucks 2 on the front and 2 in the back. Loads weighing over 90,000 lbs. Is pretty common, the only difference between 80,000 lbs. And overweight loads is the permits. If you’re willing to pay for the permits there’s virtually no limit to your size or weight.
Triple the road tax for them.
If the weight limits apply to all possible combinations (since I’m not entirely sure of how they’re using the phrase „semi truck“), it’s actually interesting to me to know that the United States has such low limits despite being such a huge country, being akin to continental Europe – here in Finland 60 metric ton (~132 200 lbs) tractor-trailer combinations have been common for a long time, and currently the limit is progressively up to 76 metric tons (~165 500 lbs) when you go past seven axles.
The majority of the EU however has much lower limits in continental Europe, which is why there has been some wrangling about legal varieties of trailers and combinations of them because otherwise it would have been impossible for continental European trucking companies to compete in the Nordics.
Well…. I suppose regular tax payers can take one more for the team 🤷
I’ll bet that the people fighting for this are companies that don’t contribute to the taxes that help maintain these roads.
Corporate socialism baby! God we’re fucked.
Yes. Let’s degrade our unmaintained infrastructure even further and more quickly… what’s the worst that could happe…. Oh.
[Minnesota interstate bridge collapse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-35W_Mississippi_River_bridge)
They just need to make it standard across 80 or 90k, but before that they need to actually fix the fucking roads.
Kills me seeing 110, 220, 500k+ loads and just thinking, so if you just pay the permit suddenly its okay that these loads get moved …
Secondly, driving across i40 bridge or the i10 mega bridge with all the loads trucks rolling down the road all punched together bridge law is able to factor 20+ 40T trailers all at once.
The smarter option would be going back to trains (were applicable), having states regional hubs to do offloads/loading same way intermodals are done now so the roads are just being used by Heavy haul or hazmat only.
This would end up saving fuel, getting drivers off the road, freeing up more parking, saving tax payers money from wear and tear and would allow more drivers to either remain regional/local or become more specialized for much higher pay.
Ofc we all know truck drivers don’t get paid shit anyway
i say NO. we cant fix the roads and infrastructure we have now. all our tax money goes to WAR.
Tax them aggressively by GVW to cover road maintenance
Here in Michigan we allow crazy high weight limits for trucks and it really hurts our road quality. It’s not the only reason, but it’s one of the big reasons why we have some of the worst roads in the country. This is just a way to make it cheaper for companies to increase their profits while shifting the cost of the roads to everyone else.
No. Greedy Bastards.
Dont do it
They did it in South Africa and our asphalt roads became gravel
Their centers will make us pay for their power while their heavy trucks make us pay for their infrastructure.
The billionaires can’t get enough.
They already do, if you have a permit.
guessing the electric trucks guys are pushing this because of battery weights
The comments on the original r/truckers thread are interesting. It reduces the number of drivers which hurts them. And necessitates lower speeds in the mountains which hurts earnings when paid by the mile.
But the opinion seems to be the required increase in axle count negates the effect of weight on road damage and that the state will recoup any additional road maintenance costs through registration fees for the big rigs.
This and bought up CDLs, the road will be a thunderdome
Some of these comments are off the wall. Yeah, let’s build separate roads for trucks, or build them underground. Or make them carry less cargo so we can have more trucks on the road.
The roads that are already fucked? Hard pass, make 2 trips.
this is what actually destroys roads, and then the rest of have to pay taxes to fix them.
I’m ok with this, as long as their taxes go up as the cube of the weight, to track their wear on the roads.
WE ALREADY DON’T SPEND ENOUGH ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE YOU FUCKING RATS
The bridges will fall
sure, but they foot the bill for road maintenance.
I live in WV with lots of oil and gas trucks. Before that it was coal trucks and the whole time we had big timber trucks on the roads too. These industries aren’t even taxed enough to pay for the damage they do to road infrastructure.
This is going from 5 axles to 6. This is less weight per tire and more brakes per ton.