Newry, Co.Down, aber das ist in jedem Dorf, jeder Stadt und jeder Stadt in ganz Irland zu sehen. Wie viele Menschen könnten untergebracht werden, wenn solche Immobilien wieder genutzt würden?
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Newry, Co.Down, aber das ist in jedem Dorf, jeder Stadt und jeder Stadt in ganz Irland zu sehen. Wie viele Menschen könnten untergebracht werden, wenn solche Immobilien wieder genutzt würden?
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Irish in France here. What they do here is massively increase the owner’s property tax until they cop themselves on. Ireland really needs to do this…
Newry is FULL of buildings like this.
It comes down to whos gonna put the cost into reviving it or can it be if even. Euros & cents+time. If I a betting man without even seeing the inside of this property, Id say its walls are supporting the adjacent buildings. Otherwise the innards must be terrible for it to be boarded up and to keep youth and squatters causing further damage and fires.
I mean… there’s this: [https://m10news.com/government-grants-bring-over-3000-vacant-irish-homes-back-into-use/](https://m10news.com/government-grants-bring-over-3000-vacant-irish-homes-back-into-use/)
Taking into account the roughly 19,500 derelict houses and the average amount of bedrooms in an average house you could house a little over 53,000 people I reckon.
If labour is one of the big issues with construction – I’m not sure if renovations would necessarily be *that* much of a solution. The cost of renovations of derelict properties is also pretty huge – even just making some renovations to a property that’s currently inhabited can be eye-wateringly expensive.
Obviously we should want to get rid of dereliction for more reasons than just the housing crisis, definitely not arguing that. I’m just not sure if it actually is an easy solution that would have a big short-term impact.
yes there is a property on a prominent road in cork that has been empty for at least 15 years now
If you take a walk along the canals in central Dublin, it’s appalling the scale of dereliction, empty space and low rise housing. And this within walking distance of the city centre. Meanwhile we are being forced to build apartment blocks outside the M50 because that’s the only place where planning permission is being granted to build. We need to knock large areas of the central city, and fuck all of this terrible planning.
Turn it into another mosque
If you visit Poland and come back and see this, you really start to ask which country is the „rich“ one
Use it or lose it. 2 years vacant and then you are forced to sell or CPO. Thats it.
They wouldn’t be Irish granted 100 percent
Our government just voted down a bill which would tackled dereliction the Derlict site amendment bill 2022. If your interested in how County Council can tackled them successfully id recommend looking into limerick city and country council and their massive success on tackling dereliction.I got a speaker Audrey Crowe into my college to speak on this and how they did it ,it can be done they just dont want to
Theres 6-8 vacant derelict properties that our junior minister for housing can see out his back window….
People always talk about dereliction taxes (which I do like), but sticks are only one half of the carrot-stick equation.
I have always thought that some sort of dereliction equity fund might be of use. Owners of these properties don’t have the capital to bring them up to usable standard, but also would be stupid to sell them as next year they will be worth more. In theory they could remortgage to get the cash necessary but that comes with risk.
The fund would be publicly owned and would grant the funds necessary to redevelop derelict properties, in exchange for a market-rate equity stake in the property. The goal would be to get the property back to an income-generating state (i.e. rent) which would be shared between the fund and the owner. At any point, the owner would have full rights to buy-back the equity stake if they so desired. On the flip side, a dereliction tax could be introduced for owners which fail to avail of this option (or a privately funded redevelopment),
This achieves three things:
1. Pays for itself over time (through a share of income generated by the property), so it is scalable.
2. Generates income for the property owner, incentivising them to redevelop without losing a stake in the property (the carrot).
That being said, I’m not an economist or developer or government official or financier or any other relevant qualified professional, so I’d be happy to be shot down and told why this idea wouldn’t work.
Imagine all the immigrants we could make a killing off