I think there’s a ton of useful stuff in this letter for people on this sub to talk about. It does take a doomer-ish angle but the facts are relatively well-substantiated. The demands are interesting as well. Quoting one part I thought was particularly on-point: „While the “move fast and break things” attitude may be celebrated at some tech companies, it is not remotely appropriate for a technology as consequential and dangerous as this one. We must hold the people and corporations building AI to an unusually high standard. “Good enough” won’t cut it for something so important.“
Also, I’m generally eager to see more public action around AI. It seems like a big problem is that the most important decisions in the world right now are being made by a handful of executives because… they got there first? I guess it’s fine that our world operates that way when it comes to iPhones or Facebook or something, but those didn’t change the world in the way AI will. So it seems good to have more public input and discussion influencing the decisions that OpenAI is making. Accountability feels like an appropriate word for that.
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I gotta push back a tiny but. This looks more like a smear campaign regurgitating sensational articles than a real campaign concerned with safety. It’s easy to claim „safety“ as the reason for starting a competing company, thats a good look for anthropic and one id shove in people faces as much as possible if i was competing with openAI. As consumers we have been generally been fine with selling our data to „connect“ with others through social media, and that data has been used to extract profit, manipulate election, create fake news and propaganda well before openAI hit the scene. Now that this data is been used for an actually usefull purpose to consumers, there is more attention drawn toward it. I’m sure there are more emerging issues with this new tech, but from a consumer perspective I appreciate at least being able to use the data stolen from me. I just think time would be better spent thinking about real policies and issues like building public digital privacy insfrastrure and data rights policies and ways to enforce them at scale.
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My two cents – they have the secret go ahead from some governmental power with the understanding that if we slow down, we lose to another country.
Terminal race condition. We are well and truly fucked.
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I would sign the letter and agree with everything it says. So what though? That’s what I don’t understand with these movements. What is the end goal of them? I know what the end goal of OpenAI’s strategy is, it’s not like it’s a big secret. Their end goal is an AI model that is more intelligent overall than humans, and we are not far off from that. Are we going about that the best way? No. Granted. You win that argument, good job!
So what? Just because they are not doing it the best way, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. We have gotten so stupid and dumbed down with modern debate and internet culture that this fact just goes completely ignored. Everyone simply wants to win an argument.
Do you not want AGI? Do you want AGI to be regulated by governments? Do you want to hold someone personally accountable for doing it? What is the goal? Can we start there.
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I think there’s a ton of useful stuff in this letter for people on this sub to talk about. It does take a doomer-ish angle but the facts are relatively well-substantiated. The demands are interesting as well. Quoting one part I thought was particularly on-point: „While the “move fast and break things” attitude may be celebrated at some tech companies, it is not remotely appropriate for a technology as consequential and dangerous as this one. We must hold the people and corporations building AI to an unusually high standard. “Good enough” won’t cut it for something so important.“
Also, I’m generally eager to see more public action around AI. It seems like a big problem is that the most important decisions in the world right now are being made by a handful of executives because… they got there first? I guess it’s fine that our world operates that way when it comes to iPhones or Facebook or something, but those didn’t change the world in the way AI will. So it seems good to have more public input and discussion influencing the decisions that OpenAI is making. Accountability feels like an appropriate word for that.
I gotta push back a tiny but. This looks more like a smear campaign regurgitating sensational articles than a real campaign concerned with safety. It’s easy to claim „safety“ as the reason for starting a competing company, thats a good look for anthropic and one id shove in people faces as much as possible if i was competing with openAI. As consumers we have been generally been fine with selling our data to „connect“ with others through social media, and that data has been used to extract profit, manipulate election, create fake news and propaganda well before openAI hit the scene. Now that this data is been used for an actually usefull purpose to consumers, there is more attention drawn toward it. I’m sure there are more emerging issues with this new tech, but from a consumer perspective I appreciate at least being able to use the data stolen from me. I just think time would be better spent thinking about real policies and issues like building public digital privacy insfrastrure and data rights policies and ways to enforce them at scale.
My two cents – they have the secret go ahead from some governmental power with the understanding that if we slow down, we lose to another country.
Terminal race condition. We are well and truly fucked.
I would sign the letter and agree with everything it says. So what though? That’s what I don’t understand with these movements. What is the end goal of them? I know what the end goal of OpenAI’s strategy is, it’s not like it’s a big secret. Their end goal is an AI model that is more intelligent overall than humans, and we are not far off from that. Are we going about that the best way? No. Granted. You win that argument, good job!
So what? Just because they are not doing it the best way, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. We have gotten so stupid and dumbed down with modern debate and internet culture that this fact just goes completely ignored. Everyone simply wants to win an argument.
Do you not want AGI? Do you want AGI to be regulated by governments? Do you want to hold someone personally accountable for doing it? What is the goal? Can we start there.