As a citizen, I don’t recognize ICE as having authority over me.
snowlion000 on
Nothing new! ICE has been using administrative warrants all along. Have no force of law whatsoever!
ericf505 on
Mind you, this comes after being told ICE can enter a home with an administrative warrant. Now they feel empowered without one. This even gives them the authority to arrest you simply by how you look because being brown is synonymous to being „illegal“ in their eyes, and enough to justify arresting you.
I hate what this country has become…
Significant_Cup_238 on
It is the moral duty of members of the armed forces to refuse to obey illegal orders. It is the moral duty of the citizens of the United States to not obey a lawless government.
thieh on
„Fuck the constitution“ – ICE Slogan, probably.
smiama36 on
“Will there be some pain? Yes, maybe (and maybe not!) But we will Make America Great Again, and it will all be worth the price that must be paid.“ – Trump told us this was going to happen. Is this the „pain“ part? And once we are all cowed and beat and the fight has gone out of us… is that the price that must be paid?
HonoredPeople on
ICE doesn’t have that power.
herewegoagain1024 on
A federal judge literally ruled that they can’t enter without warrants just this week after that other memo was leaked. They clearly don’t give a shit anymore
alabasterskim on
That’s cool. The 4th Amendment disagrees with that expansion of power, similarly to how if I decided to claim powers.
hmr0987 on
Hey so when do we start realizing that Trump is building an agency of Brown shirts? Before or after they start going after US Citizens?
Remember the whole concept that Trump would like to strip certain people of their citizenship?
All empty threats, right?
Rfun2024 on
Are there courts left for this stuff to be challenged? You know.. laws, the US constitution etc? ANYTHING left?
V3CT0RVII on
Won’t lead to convictions. If they grab you stand tall.
CornFedIABoy on
Yeah, no. I don’t think we’ll be having with any of that.
killer-tofu87 on
A memo is not law
sportsjorts on
So they are criminals. A fucking roving gang of child fuckers that have 0 accountability and are completely above the law. It’s time for everyone to own a gun. We have come to that point.
PennysWorthOfTea on
I want to say „they can’t do that“ but I also know we’re at the point that it’s more down to logistics than legality
tomgratz on
No. They can say that but it’s bullshit
yellowjackethokie on
This is called fascism.
PWL51 on
The correct name is the Gestapo.
MountainChen on
Fascist shithole country
GreenDavidA on
That’s about as valid as Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy out loud.
roadsidefoto on
I am awaiting a very specific obituary, with much enthusiasm.
Ok-Sundae-1096 on
Isn’t this kind of dangerous in the sense that it would be really easy to impersonate someone from ICE to essentially break into someone’s home?
DwHouse7516 on
No, ICE is lying to its agents about what they are legally permitted to do
___YesNoOther on
Arrest anyone without a warrant? For what?
HyliaSymphonic on
Honestly this doesn’t change much given they were signing their own “warrants” prior to this.
Curious-Emu3894 on
Our country is sinking fast. Congress must act for all American people to expel this toxic, criminal, and cancerous scum from our House.
onlynamenotaken on
Fourth amendment says they can’t do shit.
ProfessorDerp22 on
How’s that Gadsden flag waiving going, Magats? That pocket constitution burning a hole in your pocket yet?
Topheriffic on
Everytime I look into reddit, something crazy happens.
Tralliz on
The PEOPLE do not want this. There’s a supposed checks and balance system and it’s clearly not working.
greatthebob38 on
Sounds like a 4th Amendment violation.
maeryclarity on
No this is the exact kind of Psychological Manipulation techique that is so clearly covered in all propaganda studies and the people who work for and publish the NYT know that, they have degrees in this crap.
ICE cannot „expand“ their ability to do ILLEGAL THINGS the proper headline here is ICE ILLEGALLY VIOLATES THE 4TH AMENDMENT AND OPERATES IN AN OPENLY LAWLESS FASHION.
No soft creep of normalizing powers that ICE does not have. They cannot EXPAND that power any more than they can catch a Unicorn. But when the NYT keeps PRETENDING and REPORTING on them catching Unicorns, gullible low information people start to believe that that’s real.
mechavolt on
I’m sick of the media presenting this as legitimate. They are complicit in normalizing this. They specifically chose to use the words „expands power“ rather than objectively correct „ignores the law.“ Trump says they can do it, and the NY Times jumps to tell us they already did.
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As a citizen, I don’t recognize ICE as having authority over me.
Nothing new! ICE has been using administrative warrants all along. Have no force of law whatsoever!
Mind you, this comes after being told ICE can enter a home with an administrative warrant. Now they feel empowered without one. This even gives them the authority to arrest you simply by how you look because being brown is synonymous to being „illegal“ in their eyes, and enough to justify arresting you.
I hate what this country has become…
It is the moral duty of members of the armed forces to refuse to obey illegal orders. It is the moral duty of the citizens of the United States to not obey a lawless government.
„Fuck the constitution“ – ICE Slogan, probably.
“Will there be some pain? Yes, maybe (and maybe not!) But we will Make America Great Again, and it will all be worth the price that must be paid.“ – Trump told us this was going to happen. Is this the „pain“ part? And once we are all cowed and beat and the fight has gone out of us… is that the price that must be paid?
ICE doesn’t have that power.
A federal judge literally ruled that they can’t enter without warrants just this week after that other memo was leaked. They clearly don’t give a shit anymore
That’s cool. The 4th Amendment disagrees with that expansion of power, similarly to how if I decided to claim powers.
Hey so when do we start realizing that Trump is building an agency of Brown shirts? Before or after they start going after US Citizens?
Remember the whole concept that Trump would like to strip certain people of their citizenship?
All empty threats, right?
Are there courts left for this stuff to be challenged? You know.. laws, the US constitution etc? ANYTHING left?
Won’t lead to convictions. If they grab you stand tall.
Yeah, no. I don’t think we’ll be having with any of that.
A memo is not law
So they are criminals. A fucking roving gang of child fuckers that have 0 accountability and are completely above the law. It’s time for everyone to own a gun. We have come to that point.
I want to say „they can’t do that“ but I also know we’re at the point that it’s more down to logistics than legality
No. They can say that but it’s bullshit
This is called fascism.
The correct name is the Gestapo.
Fascist shithole country
That’s about as valid as Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy out loud.
I am awaiting a very specific obituary, with much enthusiasm.
Isn’t this kind of dangerous in the sense that it would be really easy to impersonate someone from ICE to essentially break into someone’s home?
No, ICE is lying to its agents about what they are legally permitted to do
Arrest anyone without a warrant? For what?
Honestly this doesn’t change much given they were signing their own “warrants” prior to this.
Our country is sinking fast. Congress must act for all American people to expel this toxic, criminal, and cancerous scum from our House.
Fourth amendment says they can’t do shit.
How’s that Gadsden flag waiving going, Magats? That pocket constitution burning a hole in your pocket yet?
Everytime I look into reddit, something crazy happens.
The PEOPLE do not want this. There’s a supposed checks and balance system and it’s clearly not working.
Sounds like a 4th Amendment violation.
No this is the exact kind of Psychological Manipulation techique that is so clearly covered in all propaganda studies and the people who work for and publish the NYT know that, they have degrees in this crap.
ICE cannot „expand“ their ability to do ILLEGAL THINGS the proper headline here is ICE ILLEGALLY VIOLATES THE 4TH AMENDMENT AND OPERATES IN AN OPENLY LAWLESS FASHION.
No soft creep of normalizing powers that ICE does not have. They cannot EXPAND that power any more than they can catch a Unicorn. But when the NYT keeps PRETENDING and REPORTING on them catching Unicorns, gullible low information people start to believe that that’s real.
I’m sick of the media presenting this as legitimate. They are complicit in normalizing this. They specifically chose to use the words „expands power“ rather than objectively correct „ignores the law.“ Trump says they can do it, and the NY Times jumps to tell us they already did.