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    Zivilisationen nach Samuel Huntington (dem amerikanischen Politikwissenschaftler aus Harvard)

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    2. NeekeriMan on

      Listen, I’m sure Mr. Huntington has a lot of fancy degrees and is a smart guy but this is just silly

    7. David_Serbanescu_07 on

      I like that Greece is considered western even tho they’re orthodox too

    9. myDuderinos on

      Japanese getting their own category is still silly

      sure, they are a unique culture – but so is nearly everyone else. Why no south korean category. Also, I’m pretty sure places like e.g. the philipines have little to nothing to do with „Confucianism“

      and while indonesia is largly muslim, I wouldn’t really put them into „the muslim world“.

      and no clue why tf papua new guinea is in the „western world“. Guess they aren’t muslim, so he couldn’t put them there, so he just choose the next nearest category

    10. Shepher27 on

      How does Pakistan have any similarities to Morocco but not India?

      What does Argentina and El Salvador have in common?

      This dude might as well be comparing nose shape and cranial size.

    11. ContinuumGuy on

      I kind of see what he was going for but this seems extremely oversimplified and unnuanced.

    12. mischling2543 on

      Just had to sneak in Papua New Guinea as a Western country

      And why tf are Singapore and Saudi Arabia is the same region

    13. Cefalopodul on

      Romania has more in common with Greece and Italy than it does with Russia and Ukraine.

    14. brettjmaxwell on

      Ah yes, I used to be Orthodox but I converted to Latin American in my 20s.

    15. Thelastfirecircle on

      Did Huntington know that Spain and Portugal bring catholicism to Latin America?

    16. Aegeansunset12 on

      He argued wars will happen between those regions but what happened was wars within those regions. Russia Ukraine, America nato, China Taiwan, Iran Saudi Arabia etc

    17. beyondocean on

      Do they let anyone be a professor at Harvard. Kids in 5th standard know more than this. Tf is Hindu civilization, Muslim civilization.

    18. Normalfa on

      I genuinely hate this geopolitical framework. It’s empirically weak, it’s oversimplified, it fails miserably as a predictive model. It fosters division and racism, it’s so bad.

    19. Gandalfthebran on

      Russia should clearly be part of the Western civilization. What even is meaning of orthodox civilization. laos, Myanmar, Cambodia and Thailand under Confucianism is laughable too.

    25. Frediebirdskin on

      This map isn’t quite right, it leaves out the fact that Ethiopia and Turkiye were supposedly ‘outliers’x as well as the existence of the disjointed Buddhist civilization

    26. Budget_Insurance329 on

      And this crap was treated like a revelation for 20 years. Bro actually thinks the world is the lord of the rings

    27. Wari_ on

      Latam not in Western civilization but NZ and Australia are in? Is this based on culture/religion or skin color? x.x

    28. Short_Expression7748 on

      I’ve read this book and it was a fun read but let’s get honest, this is just something someone who played too much Civ IV cooked up

    29. Matman161 on

      Latin America

      ✅ Overwhelmingly Speaks western languages

      ✅ Colonized by western powers

      ✅ Settled by Western people

      ✅ Established Western styled governments after independence

      ✅ Overwhelmingly worships western religions

      ✅ Closest financial and political relationships are with other Western nations

      ❌ Obviously they aren’t western, what are you talking about

    30. SaphirRose on

      American Political Scientist famous for his Military-Civil relationship (Soldier and the State book) and infamous for his Clash of Civilization book… In fact it wasn’t even infamous but actively laughed at in Political Science academia (especially in Europe)…

      Unfortunately it became a smash hit with american lay public.. and even politicians, especially after 9/11.

      The actual book is massive mess, it ignores everything that doesn’t go its way. His analysis of Yugoslav civil wars is horrendous… And his main claim „That biggest conflict zones will be ‚between‘ civilizations‘ is today laughable. Biggest conflicts in the world are within his ‚civilizations‘ not between them.

      Bdw, International Encyclopedia of Political Science doesn’t even recognise the term ‚civilizations‘. It’s specifically a term used by historians and historians or art. Not Political science. It is way too simplistic and reductionary to be used in actual IR theories. For example Croatia and Serbia are extremely linked, they were a part of the same polity, and have the same language. Culturally, politically and economically Belgrade and Zagreb influence eachother massively yet are seen as seperate civilizations, yet Morocco and Indonesia or Mongolia and Cambodia are seen as a part of one civ because???? Why? Islam and ‚Confucianism‘??? Oh yea i absolutely feel the same values and similar cultures between tropical Sumatra and bloody Casablanca…

    31. francisharrison121 on

      I’d include Latin America in Western, insofar as it’s a product of Western culture

    33. DSRI2399 on

      I think we should stop calling Europe and the US „the west“ if there’s other countries that are also generally „west“ and do not qualify. Maybe something like Northwestern Eurocentric people would be more precise

    34. Solomon_Kane_1928 on

      I consider Latin America to also be the West. European Russia is also part of the West, or at least a grey area.

    35. Kit_the_Human on

      Why is Indonesia considered to have more in common with Egypt than with Southeast Asia? Is Huntington aware that Mongolia is not Confucian (leans more Western/Russian), but Japan actually does lean Confucian? And why is Latin America considered a separate civilization from Spain/Portugal?

    36. barnaclejuice on

      The fact that everyone in this thread is ripping this shit apart is almost reviving my faith in humanity

    38. Ad_Captandum_Vulgus on

      Amongst the many other very silly things in this map, I just can’t figure why the mapmaker (probably not Huntington himself in this case) chose to represent Western Europe (with a bit less than half of its population Protestant) with the Latin Cross, but Latin America (huge majority Catholic) with the Protestant Cross. 

    40. MELONPANNNNN on

      Confucian Philippines makes me laugh, not to mention the very Buddhist Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, and Myanmar lol

    42. Dry_Blueberry6806 on

      Singling out Japan but looping in the Philippines with China and Mongolia, peak western derangenent.

    44. Feudal_Poop on

      Of course an American made this silly map.

      Putting mainland SEA under a „Confucian“ civilization makes little sense when majority of the countries have been influenced by and are a peripheral part of Indosphere.

      Also, I love how conveniently he put the entirety of maritime SEA under a „muslim civiilzation“. Indonesia, Malaysia were part of Indosphere before conversion to Islam. And what the fuck even is Philippines doing there?

    46. AsianCivicDriver on

      Lmao you saying the civilization that spent thousands of years studying Chinese text and literature is not Confucian and somehow Thailand/Cambodia/Laos/Philippines are sinophere like cmon

    48. Less-Personality-481 on

      From what I know South-East Asia mostly belongs to Indosphere.
      And, why is Bali(a Hindu Island) part of a Muslim civilization

    49. shogun342 on

      Explain, please, how Roman Catholicism has been replaced by Confucianism in the Philippines.

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