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    Starmer zieht Chagos-Deal nach Trumps Gegenreaktion zurück

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    1. sebzim4500 on

      A stopped clock and all that.

      Still though, there is something incredibly funny about Trump saving our asses on this one.

    3. Brewer6066 on

      This was always a shit idea but this does make clear that we only went ahead because the US wanted us to. Once their president publicly says it’s a bad idea it’s pretty straightforward to cancel it. I imagine US intelligence was working overtime to try and save it.

    4. GivenUpOnTrying on

      Fuck yes!!!!

      I absolutely hate that this has any relation to Trump, but the deal was abhorrent anyway.

      Britain has an obligation to the Chaos islanders, NOT to Mauritius.

    5. nerdyPagaman on

      Why don’t we just walk away from the whole thing.
      If the US wants the base, they can pay for it.

    7. bahumat42 on

      On the one hand its bad for the u-turn counter and bad to be seen following trumps lead.

      But on the other hand I never understood the point of it and this might be better. Conflicting emotions.

    8. Careful-Region-9934 on

      I’m just glad for the ChagosIan people who have been fighting hard against this government as they did not care about their feelings or futures and were willing to had them over to Mauritius whose culture& general lives are completely different and it’s a win for the British Economy has we are saving millions I am really glad that it’s gone this way especially with how things are with China

    9. No-Risk-2584 on

      This is so fucking hilarious to me.

      The Americans were the one pushing the Chagos deal, and now because of Trump trying to pressure and humiliate Starmer because he wouldn’t cave on Greenland (by saying the Chagos deal was terrible), the UK now pulls out of it completely.

      This is not what the Americans wanted at all. Trump overplayed and the US officials who wanted this must be furious.

      Perfect for us though.

    10. klepto_entropoid on

      Another u-turn! This fella must have the world record for a PM and he’s only been really trying for a year..

    11. Cielo11 on

      This week the Tories and the Media have been using this as another reasons to attack Starmer.

      So just wanted to remind everyone that the negotiations on Chagos sovereignty started in 2022 and the final parts of the deal were still in negotiation 2 weeks before the General Election.

      Also, I believe when the deal was made official the US was given the chance to veto, but didn’t. Now Trump is doing a Trump (his opinion is made up on the spot or previous things he has said he has forgotten or his opinion is based on the last person he spoke to about it)

      February:

      > Trump said „I think we’ll be inclined to go along with your country“. (Talking about UKs Chagos decision)

      > After the agreement was signed in May, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said in a statement that Washington „welcomed“ the deal.

    13. Glanwy on

      I am convinced Britain would be better going it alone now. EU am sure is great but unless we beg to rejoin treats us like shit, the US is unreliable. Certainly the EU would like the break up of the UK union and the US treats us like a doormat

    14. GreatHelmsmanSpencee on

      Not against pulling the deal but this could not be timed worse. This government is terrible at optics.

    16. FoxtrotThem on

      Thank god for that, now just drop all of the OSA and Digital ID shite and I might just not think of them as a party of complete clowns.

    17. DavidoMcG on

      The sun never sets on the British Empire!

      We finally found one good thing from Donald Trump becoming president.

    18. Due_Ad_3200 on

      I wonder if the current government of Mauritius regret insisting on renegotiation after the last government had agreed to a deal

      https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/mauritius-pm-calls-renegotiation-chagos-islands-deal-with-uk-2024-12-17/

      https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/18/prime-minister-of-mauritius-opens-talks-with-uk-over-chagos-islands-deal

      Surely this delayed the ratification of the agreement, even though they would have known there was opposition to it within the UK.

    19. NoPhilosopher3590 on

      Fucking aye! Best thing to happen to the UK from Trump. So much in the UK needs fixing. Dont waste money to extend another countries influence in a far off land.

      We can make more friends with trade than with war. Enough now. Focus on home.

      We need cohesion in this country

    20. Sorry-Programmer9826 on

      If we were paying billions to keep our own base that would be one thing. But paying billions so the ungrateful Americans can keep their base. That seems like a terrible idea

    21. sober_disposition on

      Our islands!

      Seriously, this was the most expensive attempt at virtue signalling in history.

    22. Acrobatic_Pianist_52 on

      Thank you Prime Minister Farage.

      Nice to have some real leadership!

    23. Defiant-Sand9498 on

      Can we just recognize that America isn’t our friend any more and just ignore what comes out of the white house

    24. jimjamuk73 on

      Sweet let the UN declare our hold on the islands as illegal. We can leave and leave it up to the US to hold onto it or close the base down. At least we aren’t giving billions away as part of this deal

    25. StreamWave190 on

      To be clear, this isn’t just like ‚Starmer doesn’t want to annoy Trump‘.

      The deal is simply illegal unless the United States agrees to it.

      We’re subject to the 1966 British-American Chagos Agreement, which includes that the territory itself remains soveriegn British land but then essentially leased to the USA.

      If we then give up the land (as we would in this deal) and the US objects, then we’re in breach of the treaty we signed with them.

      It’s also not clear to me whether Trump is doing this just to put pressure on Britain over Greenland. I mean, maybe that is part of it. But frankly, nobody from either the British or American governments has ever been able to explain what on earth we stand to gain from this ‚deal‘ with Mauritius. The lack of any even remotely coherent or plausible rational justificaiton is what’s got much of the public so nonplussed about it.

      So I wonder if what’s happened is that, before, Trump had basically been told by some deep state national security egghead that „it’s all fine Mr President, just sign here please“, but what’s happened since is he’s gone back on social media or watched cable news and realised what he’d given his approval to. Or, frankly, someone from his inner circle has just whispered in his ear and said „Sir, i think we need to rethink this…“

      Like, if it helps him with Greenland then I’m sure he’s happy about that. But I don’t buy that that’s the only reason. After all, if his problem with Greenland is he doesn’t like indefinite leases, then why would he be okay with a specifically time-limited lease in Diego Garcia?

    26. MoleWhackSupreme on

      Nice, the “deal” was an exercise in self flagellation from the start and belongs in the dustbin of history

    28. fukthefeed on

      I hope this was always part of the plan, say well give it back, cause a fuss, get some concession from the US, do a U turn.

    29. joshuarse_ on

      Can someone explain what’s going on here?
      I’m not very clued up on this situation?
      Thanks

    30. ash_ninetyone on

      It was a shit deal anyway.

      But it was shit regardless of the US saying it.

      But don’t forget Trump lauded it first.

    33. bigfrank926 on

      It’s ironic that the same people who are complaining about Trump doing a land grab for Greenland and the same people cheering about the British government holding onto the Chagos Islands

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