Die meisten Quebecer sind gegen die Souveränität. Noch mehr lehnen ein weiteres Referendum ab | Das Walross
Most Quebecers Oppose Sovereignty. Even More Reject Another Referendum
Die meisten Quebecer sind gegen die Souveränität. Noch mehr lehnen ein weiteres Referendum ab | Das Walross
Most Quebecers Oppose Sovereignty. Even More Reject Another Referendum
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It’s been like that for almost 30 years. The PQ is like that joker quote from the batman. A dog chasing a bus, but has no idea what to do when it actually catches it.
That wont stop the PQ from holding another referendum when they win their majority in November.
And let’s also not forget the QS, who are also a separatist party….
🪦to my tax $
Quebec separatists are much less likely to be fans of the current US admin so they probably at least acknowledge the real risks of being a new country without a military right next to an aggressive, expansionist neighbour.
With the direction the world is going, a sovereign Quebec would just be an easy target for global powers. Better to be a big fish in a small pond…
Glad to see the people of Quebec choosing sanity.
We’re witnessing the current world order crumble before our eyes, this is a particularly tone deaf moment to try and push through an idea that’s as unpopular as ever. I don’t understand why the PQ and PSPP specifically are trying so hard to shove this down our throats, especially without a realistic plan on how it would succeed.
Tribalism right now harms us all.
There’s nothing more unifying than external threats.
We need to stand tall as the largest unified front against threats to Canada. The level of threat goes up day by day.
We’d be new orleans 2.0 if we go independent
Unsurprising, especially considering current geopolitics.
I lived through Brexit. While not exactly the same, it was an unmitigated disaster, co-opted by foreign players to drive polarization and the hatred of immigrants, and we’re talking about a conveniently-located industrialized island country still riding the coattails of both their former colonial empire and their proximity to one of the biggest, richest trading blocs on the planet, which they decided to leave.
Québec is, what, a sixth or seventh of the size population-wise? Owing to our natural resources alone, we’d be prey to an imperialistic US.
The PQ also has *no realistic plan whatsoever*. What do you do about currency, immigration, passports, trade, to cite but a few? The plan could work if Canada plays ball, but why would they? The relations going forward would be more glacial than the UK-EU’s in the wake of Brexit, and I wouldn’t blame them.
With what’s going on in the world, it would be the worst time to push for separation.
Clearly, times have changed.
Makes sense Quebec is already a nation in a nation.
what is meant by ‚francophone‘ and ’non-francophone‘ in these surveys? does it mean anyone whose mother tongue is/is not French? would an immigrant from Cameroon who speaks French count as a „francophone“?
Given how much power and independence the provinces already have Quebecers are better off as Canadians since they can have their cake and eat it too.
There’s so much dissent being stirred up Quebec, Alberta, FN, anti immigration. Who seeks to divide us?
Edit: the question is sarcasm if not apparent
The Québec political landscape is difficult to understand and I doubt it makes any sense to outsiders
We’ve have this alternance of PLQ and PQ for decades now and the PLQ has been involved in so many dirty money, corruption, collusion… They are criminals. The other option is slightly more competent management that cones with a side of referendum
Quebec has voted teice already to remain in Canada, its tiresome but there really isnt an alternative for competant management
Then came the CAQ that offered right wing, pro business policies on a federalist platform. They wond by landslides and I can quote my own parents for this choice „laisser la chance a d’autres, enfin“. They just wanted anyone who wasnt plq or pq and that’s how we got here.
Except they’ve shown themselves to be particularly incompetent with spectacular and expensive failures, wasting billions and billions of money we dont have on software and consultants and state interventionism with massive subsidies on risky ventures that all failed. They also keep pushing for a 10-15 billion $ bridge to a tiny suburb with no significant industry even though they spent tens of millions of dollars on studies that all systematically say its a bad investment…. So they order yet another one hoping to have one study that says its a good idea. Meanwhile all the infrastructure we already have is crumbling due to lack of maintenance and cheap fabrication
They also went overboard during covid with restrictions that no one likes and the antivax, uneducated, conspiracy theorist, chemtrail chasing chodes interpreted as proof of their most insane theories.
Absolutely everyone is fed up and angry with the caq who are using xenophobia as a hail mary, trying to distract from real issues by harping on about street prayers or whatever
Meanwhile the pro environment left wing party imploded over identity politics, petty infighting over dress codes in parliament and importing gaza/israel conflicts and impising a weird 2 chiefs (one man one woman) structure .Their only competant député (GND) quit the party and politics last year over all this idiocy.
The PLQ had a tiny chance at a comeback, but their new chef just went straight to the partys old tricks and PAID people to vote for him, got caught almost immediately and had to resign which just confirmed that the liberals are as corrupt as ever
End result: everyone shat their pants except the PQ (though they did try, pspp said some really stupid stuff but nothing of the scale of the other parties)
And that’s why I believe the PQ is not nearly as popular as the polls indicate, we just have no good option in La Belle Province.
PSPP is popular in the same way Poilievre was popular against Justin Trudeau. The difference is that there won’t be a Carney that will come out of nowhere for Québec
On est fourré
Ces sondages montrent surtout une chose : beaucoup de Québécois sont prudents. Ça ne veut pas dire qu’ils rejettent l’indépendance pour de bon, mais qu’ils hésitent devant l’idée d’un référendum rapide, sans savoir exactement à quoi ressemblerait le projet.
L’appui à la souveraineté a toujours évolué avec le contexte. Quand la question reste abstraite, le statu quo paraît rassurant. Mais dès qu’il y a un vrai débat, des choix clairs et un projet bien expliqué, les positions peuvent bouger comme on l’a déjà vu dans le passé.
Il faut aussi faire la différence entre être contre maintenant et être contre tout court. Beaucoup de gens veulent surtout être convaincus que les choses seraient faites sérieusement, sans improvisation.
Referendum support goes way up during campaigns. Because of social media do not discount a thumping yes victory. The only way to secure the unity of Canada in the face of trump is to make concessions on immigration, a single tax agency for Québec and judicial nominations (including SCC) so the CAQ is able to win the next election,
This might be unpopular, but all the people I speak to would like to see the Québec be it’s own country, so I am not sure where these numbers come from? Also, most of the English speaking people I speak to that are from the US are very nice with Qcers, most of the cultural conflicts that I ever heard of were from the Ottawa-Gatineau region? The only Qcers that don’t seem to want the sovereignty are immigrants or descendants of immigrants from recent immigration waves(Montreal). Feel free to correct me
Quebec won’t do anything unless their hand is held, and nobody is going to take the bait on that high maintenance nightmare.
Thoughts and prayers , though.