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“Abolish ICE” Is More Popular Than Ever. How Will Democrats Drop the Ball This Time?
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They WILL drop the ball, because it’s by design. This two-party system needs to go.
Anyone working for ICE today can not be assumed to have a good moral character. To inflict such pain and suffering on unarmed people takes a very „special“ kind of person. The Dems cannot just let ICE continue thinking the rot will go away with a change of leadership. It won’t. ICE has to be abolished and they need to start over, clean slate with rigorous vetting.
Schumer and Jeffries have already pushed back on focusing on actions to shutdown ICE.
> “We’ll figure out the accountability mechanisms at the appropriate time,” Jeffries told reporters.
And Schumer refused to say whether the Democrats would use the appropriations process as leverage to cut funding to ICE and completely ignored reporters question and remained silent when handed easy questions on ICE.
https://truthout.org/articles/schumer-and-jeffries-refuse-to-back-growing-democratic-calls-to-defund-ice/
„Abolish ICE“: Old and busted.
„“Prosecute ICE“: New hotness
Democratic leadership (Schumer & Jeffries) will say “we don’t want to hurt our GOP colleagues’ feelings. If we wait, they will do the right thing. Let’s not rock the boat.”
Democrats are so innovative. Always finding a new and better way to take the L.
There is no conversation on this matter for me. I will only support candidates that vow to abolish ICE
The corporate Ds in leadership are getting worried that they may win big enough to have a mandate where they would be expected to use their power beyond enriching themselves and the donors. Can’t have that so they will milquetoast themselves into a narrow, limited win so they can then accomplish nothing like they have since the nineties.
No one is saying we don’t want border control or to deport criminal illegal immigrants, but that was already being done by local law enforcement and the INS. Personally, I think it’s time to dissolve the Homeland Security agency. It’s been nothing but a boondoggle since its inception. Every law enforcement agency in the country lines up like pigs to a trough to claim they are the true “defenders” or “patriots” that deserve the money. Every rural county’s SWAT team claims they need millions for a decommissioned tank or armored troop carrier and there’s always some company there to sell it to them at a ridiculous price. ICE is the latest “patriot” agency. They want to act like they’re defending America but really they’re just cosplaying tough guys against a manufactured threat.
Dems could’ve taken care of ice years ago, but chose not to. Fear of immigrants/Immigration is far too powerful of a political tool.
You’re telling me the controlled opposition won’t actually do anything to stop this? Color me shocked.
„X Thing Republicans do is awful, here’s how it’s bad for Democrats“-again.
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They already did, they don’t support it
This is really fucking easy. Even if you were somehow opposed to this or thought it was problematic for whatever reason, you say: we are going to vote to abolish ICE unless they meet these exact criteria. Then you work to impose that criteria. I mean, there is no reason not to say you support abolishing ICE and, more importantly, the way ICE is operating cannot continue. It must be stopped and abolishing ICE is one of many options.
Old guard democrats. Vote for new people, stop buying the media-forwarded idea that the mere title of democrats indicates you’re part of a monolith. These dudes exist entirely to prop up republican rule as a bad alternative, stop voting them in to continue playing the feckless heel.
Wore my „sugar, spice, abolish ice“ shirt out today. Granted, I’m in Denver, but nothing but smiles and compliments
No they will not drop the ball. They will snatch the ball from their teammates and hand it over.
It’s the messaging. It’s always the messaging. Abolish ICE, reform ICE, make ICE dress up like ballerinas and perform for everyone. It doesn’t matter what they say unless they have clear and discplined messaging that someone who reads at a 5th grade level or below can understand and relate to.
>more popular then ever
Ffs almost half the country still supports ICE and its policies. Why the fuck are we blaming dems right now?
At this point, it’s more deliberate incompetence, courtesy of their money sources that are cashing in on as much of this as possible while the government is useless at best, massively enabling at worst.
I wish I could offer my farm as a staging location for an anti-ICE militia, but I have small children and Trump and ICE have shown they are a danger to all children, not just the ones Donald Trump raped.
We do not have a party that represents the will of the people. The only reason the Democratic party exists is to placate us into thinking real change by going thru the system is *technically possible*, so that we feel like we’re overreacting if we consider seeking change in other ways.
Let’s wait for abolishing ICE to poll 55% support. Until then, this is premature.
The public doesn’t want Democrats to abolish ICE the public wants Democrats to Nuremberg ICE.
Schumer and Jefferies are on the MAGA side for me.
So weird that it’s democrats fault
Never „“abolish ICE“ is more popular than ever. Why won’t Republicans listen to the will of the people“
It’s because the democratic establishment is as bad as Republicans.
Democrats want the resultant control just as much as Republicans, and now they get to act as though they had nothing to do with it.
It’s long past time for a third party, or more.
I’m just glad this shit is showing liberals how bought mainstream Democrats are. I won’t be voting for a Democrat for president unless they vow to dismantle ICE.
Watch the democrats fumble by somehow making ICE stronger or give them more funding.
“Maybe if we grant them more power they’ll be less angry. The Republicans even promised to consider thinking about floating the idea of having a vote on whether to talk about maybe debating healthcare if we do!”
The Republicans will promise the Democrats that they can kick the ball this time and they won’t pull it away at the last second
I’d rather get rid of IC department and bring back the department of education
Democrats are worried about people crossing the aisle and won’t risk the potential of that happening.
The reality is, people aren’t crossing that aisle for your ability to work with Republicans. They’re crossing it for change, and if you won’t commit to change, it’s going to be more losses.